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2019-11-03 22:00:04 UTC

I mean, if you just give everyone exervise bikes, will they even use them? Which is why I think the education is more important

2019-11-03 22:00:04 UTC

So we drive more

2019-11-03 22:00:20 UTC

The excercise bikes are easy to use is the general idea, you can sit there watching tv and slowly peddling

2019-11-03 22:00:30 UTC

ideally it will be more like a couch

2019-11-03 22:00:36 UTC

like really comfortable to sit in

2019-11-03 22:01:11 UTC

Now THAT is going to be expensive and I can't really see people buying it

2019-11-03 22:01:13 UTC

the lazy way to excercise xD

2019-11-03 22:01:18 UTC

Hence governmeant funding

2019-11-03 22:01:32 UTC

A free one to everyone in the country?

2019-11-03 22:01:32 UTC

Although it wouldn't really be that expensive

2019-11-03 22:01:46 UTC

THAT is left leaning even for Europe ๐Ÿ˜‰

2019-11-03 22:01:47 UTC

Yarp, the theory is it cuts down on neccessary governmeant healthcare costs, thus saving them money

2019-11-03 22:02:02 UTC

so it makes money in the long run

2019-11-03 22:02:05 UTC

by saving it

We could just implement a plan to give people little tax incentives for working out a minimum amount per week.

2019-11-03 22:02:31 UTC

God speed if you can implement that.. @everybodydothatdinosaur

2019-11-03 22:02:44 UTC

Then, how would you prove you exercised?

2019-11-03 22:03:16 UTC

Also vitamin pills and whatnot can help

2019-11-03 22:03:21 UTC

mainly to improve health in general

2019-11-03 22:03:27 UTC

gives people more energy

I generally frown on an increase in bureaucracy, but some sort of legal infrastructure to interact with the manifold private exercise companies to allow them to document citizen's exercise if the citizen wishes them to might work.

2019-11-03 22:03:43 UTC

So, subsidies the drug industry?

2019-11-03 22:03:47 UTC

You're starting to sound European.

2019-11-03 22:04:02 UTC

The simple thing would be a tax break if you are healthy

2019-11-03 22:04:09 UTC

So if you are below a certain fat level you'd get a tax break

2019-11-03 22:04:21 UTC

You don't need to prove you excercised just that you are healthy, however you got there

2019-11-03 22:04:32 UTC

fat level is not a perfect measure of health, but it's an easy measure

2019-11-03 22:04:42 UTC

If you can prove it's below X level you get a tax break

I'm not saying it's perfect; I just haven't quite figured out a better way one might try to implement it.

2019-11-03 22:05:12 UTC

Make health insurance work like car insurance. Breaks for good health, spikes for risks.

2019-11-03 22:05:14 UTC

I wonder if subsidising gym memberships would be cheaper?

Because every time our government subsidizes anything, that industry just cranks up the prices to suckle that financial teat.

2019-11-03 22:06:49 UTC

Regulate the prices they can set then ๐Ÿ˜‰

2019-11-03 22:07:42 UTC

Just learn to embrace regulation, it's great

2019-11-03 22:08:20 UTC

*Embrace your overlords*

2019-11-03 22:08:25 UTC

The only practical way around this would be price fixing, which can carry problems without extensive auditing to make sure the prices are correct

2019-11-03 22:08:47 UTC

The thing is Americans tend to want to be more free, so we don't have extensive government regulations on us being fat xD

2019-11-03 22:09:00 UTC

If we were going to do anything, it would be to incentivize people rather than try to control them

2019-11-03 22:09:24 UTC

Freedom comes at a price, and at times that price may have to be death

2019-11-03 22:09:35 UTC

I prefer death over tyranny

2019-11-03 22:10:07 UTC

Trying to control all of society to make them stop eating junk food or being lazy is kind of a problem

2019-11-03 22:10:18 UTC

It's better to try to incentivize then control or regulate

2019-11-03 22:10:24 UTC

>You haven't implemented a sugar tax yet

2019-11-03 22:10:28 UTC

Oh, you have so much to learn yet.

2019-11-03 22:10:36 UTC

How does taxing the poor more help fix obesity

2019-11-03 22:10:40 UTC

Now they are just more poor and also fat

2019-11-03 22:10:45 UTC

This is stupid

2019-11-03 22:10:53 UTC

You can also get fat by things other than sugar

2019-11-03 22:10:58 UTC

Pushes up the cost of those goods making the others more accessible

2019-11-03 22:11:05 UTC

All taxes like this to control behavoir are not only dumb, but cruel

2019-11-03 22:11:16 UTC

Sugar was found to be the main common ingredient in 'bad' food here

2019-11-03 22:11:23 UTC

it doesn't make others more accessible it just makes it more expensive and takes up more of their money

2019-11-03 22:11:33 UTC

Sugar is literally in most foods

2019-11-03 22:11:39 UTC

like glucose is neccessary for life

2019-11-03 22:11:44 UTC

it's how our metabolism works

2019-11-03 22:12:01 UTC

Those "bad" foods were found to have a higher portion in compared to the better ones

2019-11-03 22:12:10 UTC

So, they pushed up the price of the high sugar foods

2019-11-03 22:12:15 UTC

you can in theory eat all fat, but then you'd be super tired as you'd be in keto all the time

2019-11-03 22:12:31 UTC

Right, the governmeant punishes people and then gives itself rotor cuff surgery patting itself on the back for how great it is

2019-11-03 22:12:35 UTC

To where they're more expensive than the lower sugar ("better") foods

2019-11-03 22:12:37 UTC

And does so through taxes

2019-11-03 22:12:46 UTC

"better" in their words

2019-11-03 22:12:54 UTC

Rather than trying to help poor people it just taxes them, making it so only good tasting things are affordable by the rich

2019-11-03 22:13:00 UTC

it's stupid

2019-11-03 22:13:06 UTC

and frankly orwellian xD

2019-11-03 22:13:17 UTC

A better idea is to try to just help the poor

2019-11-03 22:13:23 UTC

You can still access them, but they become a luxury

2019-11-03 22:13:43 UTC

Making the prices go up is a cruel way to punish someone that largely effects the poor the most

2019-11-03 22:13:50 UTC

and arbitriary sales taxes on everything are just silly

2019-11-03 22:13:59 UTC

You take away money that could go to health foods instead

2019-11-03 22:14:17 UTC

The healthy foods become the cheaper option at that point

That doesn't make the 'better' foods cheaper; It just makes food in general more expensive.

2019-11-03 22:14:24 UTC

*Within reason, of course*

2019-11-03 22:14:30 UTC

^

2019-11-03 22:14:43 UTC

It just makes all food more expensive, it doesn't make healthier foods cheaper

2019-11-03 22:14:47 UTC

*Since Nathan is his number one fan I just wanted to mention that Stalin has overheard this conversation from the grave and he's very pleased with Nathan's efforts*

2019-11-03 22:14:47 UTC

it just makes life harder on the poor

2019-11-03 22:14:52 UTC

For the benefit of the governmeant

2019-11-03 22:15:04 UTC

sales taxes like this are regressive

2019-11-03 22:15:09 UTC

Meh, the government is happy to cover healthier eating through an increase in food stamp usage

2019-11-03 22:15:29 UTC

So, at best, it takes money from people, to give it back to them

2019-11-03 22:15:33 UTC

>Food stamps
>Healthier

2019-11-03 22:15:34 UTC

Mission accomplished

2019-11-03 22:15:44 UTC

You take someone's money and just give it back to them

2019-11-03 22:15:49 UTC

This is all the governmeant can do

2019-11-03 22:16:01 UTC

Pretty much

2019-11-03 22:16:10 UTC

the theory is that, if done correctly it can do things no individual can do, as economies of scale can then make something more efficient

2019-11-03 22:16:20 UTC

Funnily enough, it got a super majority in parliament

2019-11-03 22:16:26 UTC

like, building roads is valuale for all of society, for every business along that stretch of road, even if no single business would profit from it etc.

2019-11-03 22:16:37 UTC

But just to give the mback what you take from them directly offers no benefit, usually it's a detriment

2019-11-03 22:16:38 UTC

Am I wrong on this? The most obese demographic in the US is the one that receives the most food stamps?

2019-11-03 22:17:40 UTC

It's the government trying to keep money moving around the economy

2019-11-03 22:18:10 UTC

Most of the funds don't come from the poor, since they're a minority

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