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2019-10-30 19:09:04 UTC

The first part is about something else

2019-10-30 19:09:06 UTC

Why is Cheddar Man stuff related to the topic?

2019-10-30 19:09:09 UTC

*2D

2019-10-30 19:09:17 UTC

It's such a out-of-topic video link.

2019-10-30 19:09:19 UTC

ye ok fine it was 2d

2019-10-30 19:09:20 UTC

It's not, he is just responding to a leftist

2019-10-30 19:09:29 UTC

And combined both of them in one video

2019-10-30 19:09:31 UTC

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-10-30 19:09:34 UTC

Watch from 8:00

2019-10-30 19:09:37 UTC
2019-10-30 19:10:04 UTC

still better then 1 d

2019-10-30 19:10:43 UTC

You do have a....

2019-10-30 19:10:45 UTC

POINT

2019-10-30 19:11:04 UTC

๐Ÿ”ช

2019-10-30 19:12:09 UTC

1D is a line... 0D is a point (or lack of it).

2019-10-30 19:13:00 UTC

thanks whiic ๐Ÿค“

2019-10-30 19:13:15 UTC

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-10-30 19:37:45 UTC

@Monstrous Moonshine dude that hr long talk with tucker is pretty good

2019-10-30 20:05:19 UTC

I don't thinkl Fuentes is a good faith actor. And neither is Alex Jones.

2019-10-30 20:08:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967335614447636/639194044836085790/Charlie_Cuck.mp4

2019-10-30 20:09:13 UTC

Fuentes did not want picture taken of him next to Kirk because he wants a memento, because he likes the guy. He just wants to give fodder to the left so Kirk can be removed for being in the same picture as him. That said, now the rightwing will destroy Kirk instead. There was no win condition, and there is no win condition for the right in general, because rightwing wants to self-destruct because Clown World. Fuentes as embraced it, he wants destruction. He's YangGang and all that shit.

2019-10-30 20:09:31 UTC

Fuentes wants the left to win in order to further societal collapse.

2019-10-30 20:10:46 UTC

Charlie is pretty cuck on Isreal. The irony is that his claim of rejecting the idea of dual loyalty might **actually be true**.

2019-10-30 20:10:54 UTC

He probably has loyalty only to Israel.

2019-10-30 20:11:31 UTC

>America is just a placeholder for ideas, if we had those ideas on an island and the Grand Canyon and native demographics disappeared, it would be still be America

2019-10-30 20:11:32 UTC

>Israel is an exception because there is a holy connection to the land

2019-10-30 20:11:39 UTC

How else should I interpret USA is *only* a placeholder for ideas.

2019-10-30 20:11:56 UTC

He literally said that not just the demographics, but the land itself doesn't matter

2019-10-30 20:12:15 UTC

While saying Israel is an exception

2019-10-30 20:12:16 UTC

Hey, did you get the time stamp to Kirk saying he supports "The Gay Agenda"?

2019-10-30 20:12:23 UTC

Don't cuck on me.

2019-10-30 20:12:29 UTC

I already gave it to you

2019-10-30 20:12:31 UTC

Scroll up

2019-10-30 20:13:57 UTC

It's been like 5 hours of backlog. Where in there is the timestamp? You posted the video without timestamp.

2019-10-30 20:14:29 UTC

No, not 5 hours. It was 3 hours ago.

2019-10-30 20:14:35 UTC

7PM, not 17... my mistake.

2019-10-30 20:16:37 UTC

Ok, 43:04 (I don't know why you posted it in DM)

2019-10-30 20:17:53 UTC

Nope, he didn't say explicitly "The Gay Agenda".

2019-10-30 20:18:02 UTC

That was your original claim. And it was a false claim.

2019-10-30 20:19:19 UTC

All he said that if gays want to get married, the can, law of the land, whatever and conservatives need to focus on defending religious liberty (instead of imposing religious values on the state and it's laws).

2019-10-30 20:19:27 UTC

You're just full of shit, Ford.

2019-10-30 20:20:16 UTC

Nope watch properly

2019-10-30 20:20:37 UTC

He explicitly says that we need to "move on to bigger battles"

2019-10-30 20:21:07 UTC

Which underlies the acceptance that there was a battle and that he is cucking on it

2019-10-30 20:21:27 UTC

Yeah. He meant that SCOTUS has rules gay marriage constitutional, as in **THE STATE** must treat it similarly as hetero marriages.

2019-10-30 20:21:33 UTC

I already clarified my opposition to him, which is his subversion of Conservatism with libertine ideas

2019-10-30 20:21:34 UTC

That is the battle conservatives used to fight.

2019-10-30 20:21:57 UTC

The fight that **should** continue is fight against the idea that churches need to partake in gay stuff.

2019-10-30 20:22:22 UTC

This is why he has to make up terms like "Conservatarian". It is standard semiotic subversion, akin to what the left does with gendered bathrooms

2019-10-30 20:22:32 UTC

The fight for **THE STATE** to discriminate and act as an extension to the church (against what 1st A says what govt cannot do) is a lost battle.

2019-10-30 20:23:02 UTC

Again, you are full of shit, Ford.

2019-10-30 20:23:29 UTC

Read my comment properly you retard. He isn't morally opposed to it either, and disavows true Conservatives who call him out for that.

2019-10-30 20:23:52 UTC

He literally paraded a black gay person as the pinnacle of Conservatism in the Ohio event

2019-10-30 20:24:05 UTC
2019-10-30 20:24:25 UTC

It's like the last couple of seconds of the entire video.

2019-10-30 20:24:43 UTC

Don't derail.

2019-10-30 20:24:54 UTC

I called you out, shit.

2019-10-30 20:24:54 UTC

5:45

2019-10-30 20:25:01 UTC

That's different timestamp retard.

2019-10-30 20:25:08 UTC

Different video.

2019-10-30 20:25:11 UTC

Sure, you can keep calling out like a deluded idiot

2019-10-30 20:25:25 UTC

The retard who cried "Nazi"

2019-10-30 20:26:05 UTC

Where does Kirk say conservatives cannot be anti-gay marriage in personal opinion?

2019-10-30 20:26:07 UTC

But this is what I mean when I say he supports the Gay Agenda

2019-10-30 20:26:19 UTC

Respecting SCOTUS is Gay Agenda?

2019-10-30 20:26:31 UTC

Respecting 1st A is Gay Agenda?

2019-10-30 20:26:55 UTC

Flaunting fags as Conservative is Anti Conservatism

2019-10-30 20:26:59 UTC

That plus that other amendment about equality under the law between demographics. I don't remember the number.

2019-10-30 20:27:35 UTC

It isn't a question about legality, but morality

2019-10-30 20:27:38 UTC

@Monstrous Moonshine Well, if you go that far, what states **REPUBLICANS** are conservative?

2019-10-30 20:27:47 UTC

Conservative is not part of word "Republican".

2019-10-30 20:27:56 UTC

Which he was called out on for cucking

2019-10-30 20:28:01 UTC

Why should libertarians be purged from Republican party?

2019-10-30 20:28:08 UTC

I'm not sure if this is particularly relevant but to my knowledge Christians have moved out of the battle for legislation, they don't consider the law to have a place in their vision of morality anymore

2019-10-30 20:28:13 UTC

Liberty is cucking. Yeah, right.

2019-10-30 20:28:16 UTC

I didn't say they should

2019-10-30 20:28:24 UTC

But that isn't Conservative either

2019-10-30 20:28:39 UTC

I'm against semiotic subversion of Charlie Kike

2019-10-30 20:28:54 UTC

"Conservatarian"

2019-10-30 20:28:55 UTC

Very few "conservative" is a reactionary who wants to go back to 1790.

2019-10-30 20:29:10 UTC

Gay rights are only really opposed by religious people or some weird fascists, not by any conservatives outside of those groups

2019-10-30 20:29:17 UTC

Dude, you subvert as well, when you call Japan, Iceland and Poland "ethnostates".

2019-10-30 20:29:26 UTC

Everyone subverts and you do it way more.

2019-10-30 20:29:30 UTC

On a moral level it is opposed by quite a lot of people

2019-10-30 20:29:38 UTC

Even though they might not want the state to ban them

2019-10-30 20:29:43 UTC

But not by atheists, for example

2019-10-30 20:30:07 UTC

It takes a religious approach to be against gay rights

2019-10-30 20:30:08 UTC

And not many atheists are Conservative either

2019-10-30 20:30:51 UTC

There are Traditionalist perspective for hetronormativity as well

2019-10-30 20:30:51 UTC

well i think him calling those places ethnostates is a misnomer

2019-10-30 20:31:03 UTC

because they dont ONLY allow japanese people

2019-10-30 20:31:05 UTC

Conservatives are not an inherent part of Christianity, that's the other thing

2019-10-30 20:31:23 UTC

I'm personally an agnostic

2019-10-30 20:31:24 UTC

its just no one cares if they maintain their demographic majority using immigration policy

2019-10-30 20:31:24 UTC

You can be Christian, without being conservative, and you can be atheist, while also being conservative

2019-10-30 20:31:28 UTC

But still Traditionalist

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