Also, I'm sure it's been asked before, but what is the fallback incase this server get ((shutdown))

maybe we could put making a website on the bucket list

or some custom chat client

yeah, well have to look into that

awesome

you have any particular ideas about other chat clients

no, I only mention it because the other day I saw some anon discussing making their own client that's fullproof, over in general I think

He'd probably have some of the best ideas on that topic, in the server

We need to be integrating more closely to True Cascadia

do they have an official discord?

i dont even know what they do

arent they just activists or something?

http://www.truecascadia.com/

```Promote a White ethnic consciousness in the Pacific Northwest and prevent, as well as reverse, the increasingly discriminatory policies enacted in opposition to Whites in our own homelands.

Encourage traditionalism by investing in traditional family values, and stopping the degradation of White culture.

Regain our sovereignty and prevent foreign influence on our people.

Stop the continuation of non-White immigration into our communities and rebuild our sociocultural infrastructure.```

I think it's just a growing network of alt-right people in the area

Ill get in touch

just, you know, be careful

yea I'm just asking them what they do, i have no interest in getting involved with somebody without good reason

yeah

there's probably an idiom somewhere about the danger of aging revolutionaries

if not, i'll pen one

theres some scary old white guys doing a vulture squat over the USA convinced itll die in their lifetime and they'll get to feast

and they're getting older every day, and i just dont see a balkanization happening anytime soon tbh

@Orchid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfJGQ0n27vc

thats a long vidyo

yeah there's a lot of stuff they go over

thanks

have you watched the whole thing?

yes, a while ago when it first came out

that's how I found out about this movement of people wanting to do this

are they covington styled 'outside the government' people, or 'within the government' people?

They're not too concerned with the government, it sounds like

i hate to ask you to do my homework for me here, but i dont hate it enough to not ask

they're very much "meta-political"

it seems as tho they're more interested in building community, rather than the particulars of policy or economics

one of my big gripes with covington, other than the whole hes a nut bit is that hes basically written off the current government and has decided to just wait on the next one, that he'll theoretically lead/be a part of

that sounds larpy

yeah well

whatever the case may be, the most important thing is we develop the cultural network

rather than iron out a constitution

yeah

^

build the skills, become self-reliant, move up to the PNW, and advocate for white identity

if there ever comes a time where we're going to have to sort out a new government, we'll deal work it out then

for now, none of that crap will matter if there are no people to govern

those kinds of specifics are up to the people who physically live in the community

Ive made some significant changes to the about channel, it's now <#359432753474699274> and a lot of the text has been rewritten. Share your thoughts.

@Orchid I think it looks good 👍

When will we be deciding where to make the move? What are the criteria we're looking out for? I've done a ton of readind and research into all parts of the PNW, and the rest of the country. It all started years ago when I read Skousen's Strategic Relocation book.

Yeah, that's more in line. Good job.

I have a pretty good idea of the general parts of the country, their demographic trajectory, and their strategic advantages and disadvantages

Right now we want to wait about a year, and then see how many people are ready to go, and then depending on that we might adjust the timeline. If you know alot about the region's geography, thats really useful

it might be worth looking up some sort of documentation about what's best for non-us-nationals to do

We can discuss various locations at anytime, and have already discussed some. Some of the criteria we are looking for: good arable land and climate, presence of a small town (about 2000 people or less), relative proximity of a larger city is preferrable. Access to fresh water, good natural obstacles like lakes or mountains, and proximity to renewable energy like hydroelectric dams is preferrable

generally speaking, guest or visitation type visas are very easy to get, if this gets off the ground, it could be worth setting up a 'fake' university for people to get student visas for

that could be very illlegal though, we could for a company and sponsor workers

whenever i went to russia, there's always 'fake hotels' that send you their invitations for visas

dont need that anymore now, since i can travel without visa along with my wife now

but going for work-visas is tricky

because for that to work, you'd have to have a position advertised on the 'domestic market' for 6 months, and are only eligable to bring in people if you cant find the specialisation in the country

also the company has to pay a shitload for it essentially

so it'd have to be something that becomes economically viable, break-even at minimum.

hopefully someone here has some experience with this stuff, it needs to be discussed more

well, as with most things, it becomes easier as soon as there legitimately IS some sort of established community

@Marlow Since you seem to know this stuff, whats your opinion of western WA and OR, compared to states like Idaho and Wyoming?

How much harsher is the climate, and what advantages do you think one has over the other?

Do you mean Eastern?

because Western is a no-go

why?

seismic and population issues

yes there are bigger population centers, so it's easier to find work

but the politics of those areas is terrible

there are some places that are better suited outside of those cities, if you really need access to the economy there, but I advise Idaho or Montana

much friendlier politically and culturally

climate is also sunnier and swings to seasonal extremes more as you travel east, Finally when you hit the rockies, expect a slightly wetter climate, a little more snow, and up in the rockies by the continental divide (Columbia Falls, etc.) much more snow, shorter growing season, colder overall temperatures, etc.

the happy medium, to me, seams to be the Idaho panhandle, Benewah, Kootenai, and Bonner county

I would recommend the eastern areas of Washington and Orgeon, were it not for the governments there, but at the same time if you're looking for safety and good demographics, those places are excellent.

Coeur D'Alene has a population of about 50,000 and is close to Spokane, so it's not too isolated from the conveniences of civilization, Moscow further south is about half that and is a different ecology (high plains). We need to define our goals... do we want to "take over" a town? Or do we want to participate as a vocal minority in the politics?

Do we want to buy one big patch of land together and start a "commune" lol.... there was this "Citadel" project that kinda fell flat

vocal minority

I think it would be better if we just made a general push to move to a specific town and the surrounding areas, and focused on making that town /our place/

taking anything over is unfeasable, and bth im not really intereseted in living around only other /pol/lacks

yeah I know what you mean

its a recipe for a failed state

in that case I submit Coeur D'Alene or Sandpoint as my suggestion

Sandpoint has 8000 residents, and an older population than Coeur D'Alene

I have 4 kids, one of the big things for me is to find a place where there are other young families

ive looked around Coeur D'Alene before, it looks like its mostly mountains, is there enough arable land there?

Yes, there's enough to work with for personal gardening

as far as large scale farming I'm not so sure

check this map out: http://sil.uc.edu/webapps/socscape_usa/

also that area looks like it is full of sparse suburbs or cottages

it's got population and demographic stats mapped for the years 1990, 2000, and 2010, to give you an idea of where the white population is growing

wow that map is awesome!

yeah it's really useful

Ive also considered Potlatch ID

land is really cheap

Potlatch is really, really low in population

and it might be too small for our people to find good work