I don't really have the time to rehash the whole argument right now, but I breifly explained some of whats wrong with it.

You mean the stuff that I rebutted?

How does God defy logic?

yeah who cares about the provers. Thats just computers failing to handle the proof.

What material proof would you like to see?

>Failing to handle the proof

>computers can interpret if a god exists or not

>can't even handle 4chan servers

Choose one

Well according to him God is inherently illogical so we can't prove him with logic therefor we should all be atheists.

>Neckbead simplicity

It is logic gawdXD

I said "likely". And you know that isn't the core of the argument.

God is likely illogical?

It was the 'arguement' that you put forward.

Based on what ?

Keep calling people names if it makes you feel better man, you just display your own immaturity.

Kek

Rin, I'm not calling names - try answering me? Or is calling out an ad hominem the best you can do?

>becomes rabid wolf

>Tells me I need to stop name calling
>Name calls

>Ad hominem
That is only if reason is not used concurrently

Making the observation that you are immature isn't name calling.

Well I never called you a neckbeard

>continues to ignore my follow-up questions

I make the observation that you are a cunt

^ not ad hominem

>typing

>Still typing

Sorry man, I'm not ignoring you, just trying to deal with all of it at once and simultaniously trying to get out the door. I have to drive to the other end of the state tonight for family.

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WOOOOO

sure ya do

Have fun with the fam

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have fun with the fam

Have fun with the fam

If they're atheists they'll burn in hell

No worries, mate, I look forward to you eventually addressing my questions. Perhaps when you return

@Akulakhan I dont have any problem with god, just with the proof. You can attack the premises so it isnt an argument without holes. I lean to believing there may be something of a god

Have fun with the fam

have fun with the fam.

Have fun with the fam

What premise is wrong?

I'm Hindu and this is gay

^That says something

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stfu you're literally shudra-tier, kalki

Dude aren't you going to see your fam?

Shut up you're uglier than my swollen testy

Jk ❤️

kali is a douche, i apology

Single testicle

For the record I don't think it's productive to be so antagonistic to someone who is pretty much on board with every virtue of christianity as a lifestyle but has issues with the metaphysics. If understanding this stuff is criteria for you getting along with everyone, you might have an issue.

Pls no bully

Right Nut ✅
Left Nut ❌

Pls no bully

Oh I don't mind myself, I would have ignored you long ago if that was the case.

Just as a general rule though.

Where do those virtues come from if not from God? Yes, the values are still useful for nonbelievers - but would not understanding the metaphysics inform your understanding of the virtues?

Metaphysics are the basis of understanding values, my metaphysics are that god exists and nerd atheists burn in hell tho dude so

How is there virtue or goodness without God?

Can you prove morality without invoking divinity?

^can agree with those values

Altruism is inherently not found in humans unless you are A. White or B. Religious

Or hindu

Stfu 1 testicaled Poo

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Poo in Loo?

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Note that we're not invoking the Divine Command Theory - God does not simply desire goodness, He IS goodness. It's like if water did not wet the skin but merely encouraged dampness - this is ludicrous. We say God loves goodness or asks for goodness because it is in His nature. It's not just a personality trait. He isn't some divine Sherlock Holmes, as you framed it.

*damp*

@kalki I like the altruism point, i know Ayn Rand brought it up, but I learn towards the fact that we are all selfish and everything we do is for selfish reason. now I dont think this justifies everyoen doing whatever the fuck they want but rather that we can still contribute to a community and out people but we do it for selfish reason. What do you guys think?

I think we need to live under Nazi rule in a white ethnostate but we can all dream

So you believe there is no such thing as free will?

agreed

I do believe we have free will, we have it as a test to see if we fall into degeneracy or strive for greateness

Then we are not perfectly selfish.

We have at least some freedom to choose.

Selfishness is a general economic model because it predicts human behavior well.

Most people will never be greater than animals.

Marcus Aurelius and Edward Bernays both speak on this

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If we choose degeneracy -> we do so to satiate our base desires but if we choose to strive above degereracy -> we choose to do so to better ourselves so that we can help our people

@Rin I'm heading to your fams house right now so we can continue this discussion, do you like baklava?

Interested in the topic what reading material do you suggest on this topic @MKUltra

@kalki who doesnt like baklava

@MKUltra Agreed for sure. @kalki Sounds tasty, see you in Mobile.

Propaganda by Edward Bernays

its the only reason I am roomates with a greek so I have all the baclava i want

You fellas have a good evening.

We are reading it in the book club of our server.

BACLAVA

PLS GIB

which server? Sig?