The whole idea of this is the same as national socialism is

National Socialism isn't the only form of ethno-nationalism

Have you read the 25 points?

Yes

I studied fascism and Nazism last year

Carpentry is a fine trade.

part of my thesis

mhm

military and then a job in the carpentry business

Its hard work man. I used to frame houses when I was a kid.

Out here in Newfoundland when its 40 below dude

i really enjoy working with my hands so i don't think i'll mind too much lol

Cant feel your god damn fingers.

I would say white supremacy is fine, just watch how you pesent it

eh

60-90 degrees fahrenheit usually here

so it's not bad

I'd personally say no to it

but up to you

Hmm, I'm gonna leave I think.

alright

good bye

bye

rip

Are you going to a trade school or doing an apprenticeship?

probably apprenticeship

I highly recommend the trades to anybody, you don't have to spend years and throusands of dollars to learn and it will give you a comfortable paycheck

plus room to be creative

possibly

anyway

Im a journeymen auto tech. Been working in trades since I was 18

Started as a butcher.

nice

just study what you are capable of studying

and what you enjoy

not everyone is cut out for higher education

and not everyone is cut out for a life of working with their hands

Trades are not for everyone either. I went through so many before I found one I truly enjoyed.

everyone has their own talents and skills

all important

mhm

Howdy, went to school for auto, diesel etc. Decided I'd like it more as a hobby and started working on a big potato farm, just kinda rolled with it I guess, been 12 years ago already.

i want to go into electronics as well so i could set up a couple of solar panels

Solar panels are not to complicated

Really its almost plug and play now.

Diesel techs have a hard job man. I would not enjoy working on giant trucks.

lol

yup, stuff is heavy

i also want to try my hand at possibly producing energy with a waterwheel in a river

sounds like a good idea.

Solar panels are fine

I wonder how much wattage you could produce with many wheels.

My family home is off grid

It just costs a lot of money to get all the material

equipment

i'm a bit worried with solar panels because it might rain a lot in washington/oregon

for instance we have three tons of lithium batteries

doesn't matter

sollar energy goes through rain

oh ok

but if you can

go for a place with a river

or a stream

yeah definitely

and just get some hydro power

that would be power all year round

unless it freezes over

easy to get water + build a primitive dam + water wheel

you don't need a dam

a dam is bad if you want to fish

yeah true

Yeah damming rivers is a huge project that takes a lot of study

and it's often bad for the land

you don't want to fuck up your landbase

Yep usually

true true

Check out a place here called Muskrat Falls in labrador.

a big part of the new communities should be about the respect of your land, as well as the respect of your people

it's really a shame that urbanization has caused us to lose many essential skills for survival

they're not too hard to learn though

Its up to you to learn them friend

mhm

No one is holding you back.

it's easy to know which plants to eat

I've identified most of the weeds that I can eat in my climate

but that's if shit really hits the fan

also, make sure you guys choose a place that isn't too rocky

the land I have at the family home is rocky as fuck

and it's very difficult to plant things in such an environment

yeah i prefer flatter areas anyway

+ forested

I mean

rocky in the soil

underground

I live on an island literally nicknamed "The Rock" place is barren

oh yeah

@NlBaker fucking rip

You need to dig the land before you live on it, if you can

just like

a foot or two deep

a foot is enough tbh

We till 18" for our crop

rocks beneath the soil = fucking hell to grow anything beyond beans

potatoes

corn

turnip

corn has decently long roots

cabbage

potatoes, sure

if i stayed here in indiana i could grow potatoes + corn

carrots

Growing 50+ million pounds of potato a year here.

but i'm p sure you can't grow that type of stuff in washington/oregon

You also need to think about the fertility of the ground

your states may grow a lot of food

but how much fertilizer

and pesiticide do they use

Turnip is the bee's knees

you use pesticide on your own land, you can be pretty sure you'll be drinking it from your river too

columbia river basin, tri- cities area, lots of spuds.

i fucking love potatoes

lmao

i could eat them

all

day

radish are my favourite

i'm gonna start farming in my backyard next spring

Thing that sucks about potato is the constant need for funcicide. Or you end up with another Irish Potato Famine, BLIGHT SUCKS

mm

The only thing is im out of there is no Marijuana.

i dont have a backyard but im going to start growing indoors using the krakty method

kratky*

i'm p sure that we're anti-drug here

so yeah

most of us anyway

Only thing I smoke is tires

Drugs are highly discouraged.

Especially habitual use.

Thoughts on alcohol?

alcohol is a-okay

im not for drugs, however i dont see anything wrong with cannabis in the hands of a responsible active person, regular smoking is not responsible

hell, we're gonna be brewing the shit i'm p sure

Habitual use is a no no for alcohol as well.

oh so for like

festivals n shit

right

Agreed, I've seen too many lives destroyed from overuse

lmao

@Rin what would you call habitual? Once a week, Once a month, everyday.

Every day for sure, every week, yes. Not sure past that.

on a side note, hemp is a great material to farm, versatile, light, durable, easy to grow. an upstarting community should value this resource, as it can be an early replacement for plastics

i don't want the temptation to smoke hemp

neither do i wish that upon others

hemp grows 0 chemicals :)

They cloud your brain, and prevent you from reaching potential.

Alcohol is especially bad about this.

so we could use alcohol as a form of export

@Rin I'm gonna have to disagree on the weekly part. After 5 days of work a man should be able to unwind.

have you guys seen the movie "Captain Fantastic" ?

nope

you should

it's about this kind of society

@ram3n we would have to have a distilery permit to make and sell alcohol.

oh shit

ok so no selling it

outside the community

hehe

I'm not gonna say we for sure we wouldn't allow it @dmac100 , only that it's highly discouraged. If you want to get fucked up once a week in your own home, I personally don't give a shit.

as long as they don't start drunk shit right

Men fight when drunk

Trust me it will happen

this is hemp, it does not grow any chemical compounds

strictly used for animal feed or industrial purposes

If it affects your life in any meaningful negative way, we have a problem. How's that?

yep

agreed

ok

Alcohol could be a great export imo

nationalize all industry

Much legal trouble.

hm

Special licenses required, tarrifs, government inspections...

No thanks.

well i think we should be self-sustaining and should require no extra help or money

that leads to greed

@Rin some states allow making wine or beer for personal use.

and monopolies

and capitalism

@dmac100 That's not export.

International trade is how a country grows.

So self sustainment would be hard

>literally a small rustic town in the forest

ew

Even the Amish export

autarky is the best

And the Amish build structures *for others as well

You have to export. Unless you own a country thats massive.

Exporting is fine, just nothing that requires the (((government))) to inspect anything physically.

Whose government ours or theirs?

theirs

The US government obviously.

but yeah i've changed my mind and decided that i would prefer to remain isolationist

@Saxon it depends on the sect. The ones who live near me act like jews, not hard working simple folk.

if we start exporting

we get on peoples' radar

on peoples' radar = government inc

how much exportation are we talking here? we could industrialize on a small scale, beekeeping, traditional foods, etc

What? Foods? Dude you gotta sell minerals

Mining

>mining

>ruining environment

nice

We are building a "colony" within the contiguous US, therefore we are still subject to US law. We won't be able to "export" booze without jumping through the same hoops everyone does.

Which is a non-starter.

Is it legal?

*i hiss at modern society*

Is what legal?

Making alcohol?

Forming a country inside the united states.

it won't be a country

How are we gonna pay taxes and buy tools if we don't sell our goods. We don't need to be flashy, but we do need a source of income for expansion. If we're near a large city farmers markets can make us tons of money.

I said colony, not country.

just a town built by people together

Ahhh

So, kinda like the hutterites?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hutterite

@spudman I see us more like the mennonites. They still use some modern tecnology and are more lax on religion.

We aren't isolationist economically, many of us will likely have jobs in the general population. And there will of course be things that we must buy outside as well.

i think if industry is on the table we should produce products from the land with the help of some machines / methods of procesing

maybe

We'll want all skillsets, blue and white collar. Especially those in finance. Agriculture doesn't make money anymore unless it's huge in scale.

It's great for self sustenance though.

well since i'm going into carpentry

we could sell like

tables n shit

cool ass wooden statues

all kinds of stuff

Trade skills are especially useful.

@Rin People at the farmers market in my city sell organic hierloom tomatoes for $4.00 a pound. Agriculture prices depend on where you are in the nation.

Yes, people do buy them.

organic foods are very good profit, especially if you become a well known regional brand

@dmac100 And how many pounds do you think you can produce?

5000 pounds?

Hell, 50,000 pounds?

Thats 200k a season, IF you sell everyone and lose none to disease.

That's enough for maybe 3 families per year if they are stretching it.

It would depend on the amount and quality of land I have. The real money is in growing things people have never heard of, like this https://www.starkbros.com/products/berry-plants/kiwi-berry-vines/anna-hardy-kiwi