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2018-11-24 01:14:44 UTC

@Deleted User Also, especially with recruiting, can we move moderates into Fremont.

2018-11-24 01:14:51 UTC

That means it'll be harder to make lists of which voters each candidate should target

2018-11-24 01:14:55 UTC

That’s interesting

2018-11-24 01:15:07 UTC

Because although Lincoln might be stronger currently, it isn't consistent.

2018-11-24 01:15:22 UTC

The right has never been able to get over the hump in Fremont.

2018-11-24 01:15:32 UTC

Why not?

2018-11-24 01:15:38 UTC

Not moderate enough?

2018-11-24 01:15:46 UTC

No

2018-11-24 01:15:53 UTC

Not enough Fed voters

2018-11-24 01:16:00 UTC

And too many Labor voters

2018-11-24 01:16:21 UTC

Being more moderate wont do much

2018-11-24 01:16:38 UTC

Well I doubt me alone will change that demographic. I was one of the few Feds elected in Lincoln back in ‘17

2018-11-24 01:16:44 UTC

@Deleted User It's more about parliament.

2018-11-24 01:17:06 UTC

Well, you were the only fed out of 5 elected people

2018-11-24 01:17:13 UTC

4 of whom were laborites

2018-11-24 01:17:16 UTC

I assume

2018-11-24 01:17:17 UTC

Given that I am the current face of the Fremont Federalists, and our only path to winning is through co-operation with the left.

2018-11-24 01:17:23 UTC

Also, Joey is one of us.

2018-11-24 01:17:31 UTC

I know then I ran for Gov and got 40% of the vote

2018-11-24 01:17:38 UTC

The left wont cooperate with us

2018-11-24 01:17:42 UTC

ASV

2018-11-24 01:17:49 UTC

@Deleted User I’m listening

2018-11-24 01:17:50 UTC

Scott for example.

2018-11-24 01:18:02 UTC

We are in the same regional party.

2018-11-24 01:18:09 UTC

That doesnt matter

2018-11-24 01:18:15 UTC

There's a reason I'm pushing regional parties hard.

2018-11-24 01:18:16 UTC

But what if we cooperate with the left @Deleted User

2018-11-24 01:18:17 UTC

He will vote Labor

2018-11-24 01:18:46 UTC

Cooperating with the left wont work with people like Sestak in charge now

2018-11-24 01:18:53 UTC

Sestak???

2018-11-24 01:18:58 UTC

In terms of electioneering

2018-11-24 01:19:13 UTC

Well he is a Fremont Senator and Labor Chairman

2018-11-24 01:19:14 UTC

Now

2018-11-24 01:19:16 UTC

Sestak is labor chair

2018-11-24 01:19:24 UTC

and won’t cooperate with us

2018-11-24 01:19:27 UTC

Who coordinated their wins in Oct

2018-11-24 01:19:42 UTC

@Deleted User There's a reason I make sure to only antagonise Pericles.

2018-11-24 01:20:02 UTC

Well, Pericles is easy to antagonize

2018-11-24 01:20:10 UTC

And also, me and him talk very cordially in private messages, because Kiwis and Aussies can't truly hate each other

2018-11-24 01:20:10 UTC

Because he's pure scum

2018-11-24 01:20:32 UTC

Basically, my aim in Fremont is to seperate federal ideology.

2018-11-24 01:20:37 UTC

Also, build consensus

2018-11-24 01:20:49 UTC

Pericles won’t cooperate

2018-11-24 01:20:52 UTC

I'm pushing the Centre Party ***hard***

2018-11-24 01:21:00 UTC

I mean, of course he won't co operate.

2018-11-24 01:21:01 UTC

Consensus for the sake of consensus wont work

2018-11-24 01:21:08 UTC

I don’t know why wins people think that

2018-11-24 01:21:15 UTC

I just talked to Pericles guys relax

2018-11-24 01:21:16 UTC

But I'm working very well with Devout Centrist and YE and ON Progressive.

2018-11-24 01:21:24 UTC

Unless you bang your shoe on the table

2018-11-24 01:21:26 UTC

He’s willing to listen to my ideas that’s a start

2018-11-24 01:21:37 UTC

Pericles is trying to use you

2018-11-24 01:21:41 UTC

Dont trust him

2018-11-24 01:21:41 UTC

He won’t

2018-11-24 01:21:44 UTC

@Deleted User Yeah no.

2018-11-24 01:21:54 UTC

He's already tried to get stuff out of me.

2018-11-24 01:21:54 UTC

I am right

2018-11-24 01:22:02 UTC

You misinterpret me

2018-11-24 01:22:11 UTC

Of course he's trying to use me.

2018-11-24 01:22:19 UTC

But I'm not stupid.

2018-11-24 01:22:20 UTC

I haven’t given him any ideas yet he’ll just have to wait until I am elected

2018-11-24 01:22:26 UTC

why are you working with him

2018-11-24 01:22:34 UTC

I'm not working with him.

2018-11-24 01:22:38 UTC

This is the same shit that Jimmy did

2018-11-24 01:22:43 UTC

Before he defected

2018-11-24 01:22:47 UTC

What’s that

2018-11-24 01:22:55 UTC

Good god I don't want to defect to Labor,

2018-11-24 01:23:02 UTC

Especially not with WB as Pres

2018-11-24 01:23:05 UTC

Work with Pericles on stuff

2018-11-24 01:23:08 UTC

I mean, WB is a nice person

2018-11-24 01:23:11 UTC

Lol that’s a disaster

2018-11-24 01:23:15 UTC

But he shouldn't be Pres

2018-11-24 01:23:53 UTC

@Deleted User Basically, I want to get along with everyone. Disagree, yes. But not make it personal.

2018-11-24 01:24:15 UTC

You’re right @Deleted User

2018-11-24 01:24:17 UTC

I mean, I've only made one enemy yet, fhtagn. And that was sort of to be expected.

2018-11-24 01:24:57 UTC

I mean, I think fhtagn seems to be a very nice person.

2018-11-24 01:25:00 UTC

Yes

2018-11-24 01:25:10 UTC

She just seems to have gone off the deep end ideologically.

2018-11-24 01:25:17 UTC

^

2018-11-24 01:26:14 UTC

Well, yeah she is certainly passionate about what she believes

2018-11-24 01:26:15 UTC

Now

2018-11-24 01:26:34 UTC

And I know she's an enemy because she's blocked me.

2018-11-24 01:26:45 UTC

Other than that, I get along more than cordially with everyone else.

2018-11-24 01:27:14 UTC

The only person I openly antagonise is Pericles.

2018-11-24 01:28:44 UTC

For the record, I've always been pro-gun. even as a lefty. I'm from rural Alaska and grew up around guns. to use my position on that as "gone off the deep end ideologically" is being completely misinformed.

2018-11-24 01:28:47 UTC

No hard feelings fhtagn

2018-11-24 01:29:08 UTC

@Deleted User I totally understand.

2018-11-24 01:29:13 UTC

Respect.

2018-11-24 01:29:15 UTC

You're just like my maternal family.

2018-11-24 01:29:19 UTC

All from the bush.

2018-11-24 01:29:28 UTC

A good many farmers.

2018-11-24 01:29:45 UTC

The rest consistently the only lawyer in town.

2018-11-24 01:30:40 UTC

and even as a green voter i still voted in favor of making right to work part of the VA constitution

2018-11-24 01:30:55 UTC

When was that

2018-11-24 01:30:59 UTC

2016

2018-11-24 01:31:28 UTC

I perfectly understand that you cannot outright ban all firearms universally.

2018-11-24 01:31:36 UTC

Farmers and Hunters do need basic rifles

2018-11-24 01:31:43 UTC

Farmers for pest control

2018-11-24 01:31:47 UTC

Hunters for Hunting

2018-11-24 01:32:18 UTC

I find it hilarious how fucking grenades are legal for "pest control" in Australia

2018-11-24 01:32:32 UTC

And you seem fine with it

2018-11-24 01:32:34 UTC

Lol

2018-11-24 01:32:43 UTC

i think the argument for banning semiautomatics is grossly uninformed, because that's just the truth

2018-11-24 01:33:19 UTC

semiautomatics are not inherently dangerous

2018-11-24 01:34:11 UTC

Semiautomatics are totally fine

2018-11-24 01:34:16 UTC

^

2018-11-24 01:35:21 UTC

and placing bans on how much ammunition one can buy and own actually does more harm than good

2018-11-24 01:37:12 UTC

people who own firearms need to be able to practice in order to ensure they are always safely able to handle it. lowering the amount of ammunition takes away their ability to do that.

2018-11-24 01:37:26 UTC

Criminals are still going to get guns from somewhere

2018-11-24 01:37:27 UTC

Yeah

2018-11-24 01:37:29 UTC

it's encouraging inexperienced owners

2018-11-24 01:37:38 UTC

Either legally bought or illegally bought

2018-11-24 01:38:06 UTC

if you really want a rifle to commit a crime you’ll get it

2018-11-24 01:38:22 UTC

Well the difference is that I agree with the Australian government.

2018-11-24 01:38:32 UTC

And it punishes law abiding citizens

2018-11-24 01:38:34 UTC

Self-Defence is not a valid reason to own a firearm

2018-11-24 01:38:47 UTC

especially with the amount of gangs that exists south of our border

2018-11-24 01:38:47 UTC

Who cant defend themselves

2018-11-24 01:39:01 UTC

you are on an island. we dont have that luxury

2018-11-24 01:39:06 UTC

Yeah

2018-11-24 01:39:07 UTC

If someone attacks you with a gun shouldn’t you have one

2018-11-24 01:39:15 UTC

MS-13 FTW!

2018-11-24 01:39:15 UTC

to protect yourself

2018-11-24 01:40:07 UTC

At the end of the day guns are only as dangerous as the person that is using them wants it to be

2018-11-24 01:40:17 UTC

I like the australian laws.

2018-11-24 01:40:20 UTC

Guns are not bad it’s the people

2018-11-24 01:40:20 UTC

Handguns are banned.

2018-11-24 01:40:30 UTC

Basically, I think rural people need guns.

2018-11-24 01:40:34 UTC

Not city people

2018-11-24 01:40:41 UTC

People kill people, not guns

2018-11-24 01:40:44 UTC

^

2018-11-24 01:40:48 UTC

Indeed.

2018-11-24 01:40:54 UTC

It’s their motivations

2018-11-24 01:41:05 UTC

And our criminals rarely have guns because it's so hard to obtain them.

2018-11-24 01:41:06 UTC

that's all fine and dandy, but Australian gun laws cannot work in the US

2018-11-24 01:41:14 UTC

@Deleted User Of course.

2018-11-24 01:41:21 UTC

I mean, I've fired guns.

2018-11-24 01:41:27 UTC

Rifles.

2018-11-24 01:41:36 UTC

I understand the need for guns.

2018-11-24 01:41:46 UTC

I understand that there has to be exceptions for shooters

2018-11-24 01:42:39 UTC

ASV what works in Australia doesn’t automatically work in the rest of the world

2018-11-24 01:43:40 UTC

This ^

2018-11-24 01:44:23 UTC

There would be such outrage if handguns were banned here

2018-11-24 01:44:33 UTC

2nd Amendment friends

2018-11-24 01:44:41 UTC

I mean I'm sure you noticed through all your chats with Americans on discord, that our mentalities and values are very different

2018-11-24 01:44:52 UTC

Than you aussies

2018-11-24 01:45:17 UTC

Like the accents though ASV

2018-11-24 01:47:51 UTC

anyway I hope you understand different countries have different values

2018-11-24 01:48:03 UTC

Oh, of course I do

2018-11-24 01:49:24 UTC

Why do you defend your proposals as it worked in my country so it should work in another

2018-11-24 01:49:48 UTC

Sorry I don't have time today.

2018-11-24 01:49:52 UTC

I am writing an essay

2018-11-24 01:50:07 UTC

Also, there's election night tonight

2018-11-24 01:50:12 UTC

So I'm running my spreadsheets

2018-11-24 01:50:15 UTC

For Victoria

2018-11-24 01:50:23 UTC

Also, I'm talking among Fremont parliament

2018-11-24 01:51:15 UTC

the same issues in America still apply to Atlasia.

2018-11-24 04:41:28 UTC

Not gonna lie

2018-11-24 04:41:51 UTC

I would shit myself if nerd actually participates in this debate

2018-11-24 04:42:00 UTC

Lol

2018-11-24 04:42:13 UTC

Also, I'm working my way through PMs to get people to vote.

2018-11-24 04:42:38 UTC

On what?

2018-11-24 04:42:47 UTC

Both recalls

2018-11-24 04:42:55 UTC

TM is handling the south

2018-11-24 04:43:02 UTC

And Lincoln will be fine

2018-11-24 04:43:05 UTC

Basically, I see my role as party secretary very simply.

2018-11-24 04:43:17 UTC

To inform citizens that a vote is being held, among other things.

2018-11-24 04:43:40 UTC

It is up to the candidates to convince the voters.

2018-11-24 04:44:04 UTC

@Deleted User I won't do this for big ticket races unless you all specifically want too.

2018-11-24 04:44:09 UTC

Or for close partisan races.

2018-11-24 04:46:50 UTC

@Deleted User Basically, it's all of your jobs to get out the hard to votes and to convince the tossups and get defectors.

2018-11-24 04:47:04 UTC

Yeah

2018-11-24 04:47:06 UTC

I just whip the zombies and partisans on our side.

2018-11-24 04:47:18 UTC

Also, I can handle most of it for recall petitions

2018-11-24 04:47:20 UTC

And Lincoln is generally hard to turn out

2018-11-24 04:47:23 UTC

And referendums.

2018-11-24 05:17:47 UTC

Whew!!!! What a busy day meeting with business leaders

2018-11-24 05:17:54 UTC

TM is working so hard for the south

2018-11-24 21:57:55 UTC

not sure why sestak wants to drag his feet on Lechasseur's expulsion. it's not like it's controversial

2018-11-24 21:58:51 UTC

because an active fed will replace him

2018-11-24 21:58:54 UTC

I'm sure Sestak would rather have inactive Feds

2018-11-24 21:58:55 UTC

Yeah

2018-11-24 21:59:17 UTC

Just as he got pissed at the whole Haslam explulsion

2018-11-24 21:59:35 UTC

they still have the votes to pass shit

2018-11-24 22:00:09 UTC

but an active fed can bring to light their stupidity

2018-11-24 22:00:14 UTC

But let's say, if one of us are a Senator, we could play aggressive and filibuster stuff too

2018-11-24 22:00:25 UTC

And object to stuff all the time

2018-11-24 22:00:31 UTC

To slow down the senate

2018-11-24 22:01:26 UTC

they don't care about what is better for the game, but what is better for them to keep power

2018-11-24 22:01:33 UTC

to be fair, we dont have that now and things are still going slow

2018-11-24 22:01:50 UTC

Well, I'm doing my part in the House

2018-11-24 22:02:18 UTC

they have the necessary votes to ram shit through but theyre so disorganized and stupid

2018-11-24 22:02:25 UTC

Yep

2018-11-24 22:02:49 UTC

They could even replace atlascare with single fucking payer if they wanted to

2018-11-24 22:03:52 UTC

they will lose the House this election. (hopefully) 😃

2018-11-24 22:04:05 UTC

And maybe the senate too

2018-11-24 22:04:08 UTC

Hopefully

2018-11-24 22:04:38 UTC

How would they lose the Senate? I don't know who is all running.

2018-11-24 22:04:54 UTC

Canis resigned from fremont

2018-11-24 22:05:15 UTC

So there's a special election between Lumine, Koopa, Pericles, and Nerd

2018-11-24 22:05:23 UTC

And then the other seat is up

2018-11-24 22:05:26 UTC

In december

2018-11-24 22:05:31 UTC

Sestaks seat^

2018-11-24 22:05:50 UTC

Lumine, is he willing to work with us?

2018-11-24 22:06:06 UTC

for someone who wanted PPT so bad, sestak's been awfully incompetent

2018-11-24 22:06:20 UTC

Lumine is good at working against Labor

2018-11-24 22:07:19 UTC

So why don't we just throw our support behind him instead of running a candidate in the election and then but our guy in dec

2018-11-24 22:07:30 UTC

push

2018-11-24 22:07:43 UTC

Well, that's up to Koopa

2018-11-24 22:08:01 UTC

But hopefully his 2nd prefs will push Lumine to victory

2018-11-24 22:08:18 UTC

And plus Pericles is a horrible candidate

2018-11-24 22:08:23 UTC

For Labor

2018-11-24 22:09:10 UTC

Do we have anyone that would win in Lincoln?

2018-11-24 22:09:29 UTC

YT has been talking about getting Admiral President to run

2018-11-24 22:09:33 UTC
2018-11-24 22:09:51 UTC

But he'll probably only get Hugin level support😛

2018-11-24 22:09:54 UTC

RC told me he’s interested

2018-11-24 22:10:38 UTC

RC would be would I run. He might not be Fed but he will work with us. And he can win in Lincoln.

2018-11-24 22:10:59 UTC

Yes agreed

2018-11-24 22:10:59 UTC

RC is governor though

2018-11-24 22:11:02 UTC

I know

2018-11-24 22:11:26 UTC

We need the senate seat more

2018-11-24 22:11:40 UTC

I guess

2018-11-24 22:13:56 UTC
2018-11-24 22:15:05 UTC

And Labor might flop with these special assembly races

2018-11-24 22:15:21 UTC

Since they only got one candidate so far

2018-11-24 22:15:33 UTC

And wxtransit is running as an indy

2018-11-24 22:15:51 UTC

So maybe @DPKdebator can run for assembly too

2018-11-24 22:19:35 UTC

Idk if I want to be gov anymore and Senate is probably the only other office I'd go to

2018-11-24 22:19:53 UTC

I say run for Senate 😃

2018-11-24 22:38:09 UTC

idk if I have the time to commit to being in the assembly

2018-11-24 23:14:02 UTC

lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418943536516300802/516028754846285825/Screenshot_20181124-181236.png

2018-11-24 23:14:43 UTC

Kek

2018-11-25 03:50:28 UTC

@NCY1689 @KoopaDaQuick @OldSchoolRepublican @Deleted User @Tea Party Hater @Spark @Reactionary
In accordance with the by-law changes, you all need to request the endorsement of the party.

2018-11-25 03:50:45 UTC

As with the changes the party no longer automatically endorses party members.

2018-11-25 03:51:05 UTC

So you all need to request endorsement in the convention thread.

2018-11-25 03:51:16 UTC

And a vote will be held on all endorsements.

2018-11-25 03:52:00 UTC

Also, @Deleted User @NCY1689 as the 2 people behind the by-law changes, you really should have made it crystal clear to everyone once they were adopted what the changed mean.

2018-11-25 03:52:27 UTC

Namely, that all party candidates have to request the party's endorsement, rather than being automatically endorsed.

2018-11-25 04:20:15 UTC

the amendment is pretty straight forward

2018-11-25 04:37:02 UTC

Oh yes it is very straightforward.

2018-11-25 04:37:13 UTC

What I mean is, I don't think people know about it.

2018-11-25 05:11:26 UTC

If a person deletes their ballot after ballots have been counted (i.e. the election booth administrator has published the results) is it still counted? I've been looking through the elections that I missed and apparently Technocracy Timmy has a large gap in his post history where a lot of material seems to have been deleted, yet apparently was a valid voter in a number of elections

2018-11-25 05:12:23 UTC

hmmm idk

2018-11-25 05:12:39 UTC

Well, I know he only voted in the June Presidential

2018-11-25 05:12:44 UTC

he voted in feb too

2018-11-25 05:12:50 UTC

He did?

2018-11-25 05:12:56 UTC

according to the fed board

2018-11-25 05:13:03 UTC

Regionally only?

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