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The invasion has begun...

@Master Sethern to import immigrants?

@Nothing_Much That's been going on for a while, but yeah on a higher level, and now they're pressuring Poland, and Hungary to take in immigrants.

The politicians of Western Europe are committing treason

The only solution is death for those types

But, who is going to punish them for it? None.

I know

At this point political means of resolution aren't going to be enough

Either white flight to America temporarily

Or fight immediately and start losing more whites than what we have currently

Our numbers are still way too small and we still have paper nationalists who believe that even with nonwhites they can still retain culture

nononononono, if whites begin to leave Europe they will just fall in America --- Don't forget America takes in 1 million non white immigrants per year, that doesn't include of course the illegals that cross the border to the south.

What do you mean?

I'm not exactly sure, but what I do know is that the US has a very high control on the immigration from Europe in that it takes 90% non whites, and only 10% whites.

@Nothing_Much Israel maintains its culture with nonjews

So it isn't all doom and gloom

@Montanan Because Israel doesn't give second/third worlders equal rights

In fact, they don't even have niggers

They sterilize niggers and then ship them back to Africa

The nigger jews, that is

I assume we could adopt their model.

And that wouldn't be antisemitic 😄

Also, I assume everyone has seen "The Greatest Story Never Told". I haven't finished it yet. Pretty interesting stuff.

I have not finished it yet either.

I just saw the part about the prelude to the war.

I've seen half of it

I really should finish it

But I've been convinced

I'm up to about 14/27

Can anyone suggest any additional media to absorb?

https://youtu.be/Ea343UPYbSk

hello everyone!

Hello.

Nice!!!

So can you voice?

I can't at the moment. Work and stuff.

have you heard about white sharia?
the stupidiest funniest shit ever.

Googling it now, sounds odd.

it really pissed me off..
But nooo

DONT GOOGLE IT

As an atheist, I'm not really for it 😛

I want to give you the best link ever
I want to give you the best first impression

uh oh

https://youtu.be/0KkL4ZZPWH0

oh my

I also against it.. but its so fucking..

I makes me angry and makes me laugh at the same time..

I so fucking hope this is in't a real white nationalist opinion...

I assume it is a poe

they have awfully detailed arguments for it

its like they really though about this alot

https://www.dailystormer.com/islamic-sharia-is-an-appropriation-of-white-culture-white-sharia-is-the-original-sharia-law/

check this out

OMG that guy is that one mass shooter /s

Looks like Andrew posted both of those articles

IT FUCKING GOTTA BE FAKE

I am so fucking sure I seen his face on some fakery before

hehehehe

Sam Hyde? Yeah 😛

an approproation of white culture- WHAT THE FUCK

Yeah thats the name, Sam Hyde..

Well this Christopher Cantwell vidoe.

it raise a point with the word "fascism".
The socialists and left only hated and opposed when the second world war started.
There was no ideological rivarly between fascism and communism
other than the rivarly between fascism and between communists.

Stalin sure seems like not a cool bro.

Stalin was worshipped in the entire world under the cold war

Humans are weird.

but that wasnt the point..

fascism was slander world right after the world war

after the world war socialist accused everyone they didn't like of fascism
because Soviety was an ally

they worshipped Stalin in the west because there was no proof
of Stalins mass murders

Looks like Anglin has at least $15k USD in BTC for his legal defense https://blockchain.info/address/19m9yEChBSPuzCzEMmg1dNbPvdLdWA59rS

Fascism and National Socialism were definitely slandered.

the belief after world war was basically that communism won
and that communism was a paradice dictatorship that didn't hurt anyone
and only fascism hurt people.
All dictatorships and all leaders in the entire world from the stone ages
where fascists and nazies.
And all forms of communist leaders are immune to slander.

Yea but my point is that the socialist didn't know what fascism or nazism where.

Everything that wasn't their ideology was fascist or nazi.

Yep. Everything that doesn't fit their narrativfe.

The german communists in the 60thies seriously believed
the democratic german republic
was 100% national socialist.

They promote a victim mentality. Everyone who disagrees is a demon.

exactly everyone that didn't fit their narrative was fascist or something.

Well the victim cult is a modern thing.

I disagree. But it is booming in modern times.

The old communist and socialist despiced weakness

Victim mentality probably lead the Jews to Israel

No the victim cult comes from the hippies
and from the usefull idiots.

In the 30thies and even in the 60thies
there where very little interest in mercy or compassion...

I think jews were embracing the victim status in the 40s and 50s, but I could be wrong.

And lumped their cause with all other popular victim status causes.

So being anti-feminist means being anti-narrative means being a Nazi

Yeah kind of but they did that only because the militant approach failed. if you see what I mean.

Sure, yes.

If you read about the communist groups and their rethoric

the thing that strikes me is the difference in their values and attitudes to things like human life..

also the socialist movement used to be pretty sexist...

the idea of feminism was seen as capitalist..

also the socialists where not spoiled children then

originally the socialists where psychopathic workerclass brutes

Everything is sexist and racist.

yeah but in the 30thies, workerclass movements hated the idea of women stealing their jobs..

Someone vetted Virtue? Okay I'm outta here 😉

they also hated the idea of rich women telling poor men what to do
-by hirering poor people for labout..

Okej

bye

jokes

Women only "steal" white collar jobs.

I dont think they understud the difference..

Women won't steal coal miner jobs.

True.. but I dont think they saw it like that..

They probably did. White collar jobs are the good jobs 😛 the only ones worth stealing.

well back in those days -- women actually stole some factory jobs

actually lots of factories had alot and alot of women..
when the first machines where installed

http://www.lycoming.edu/textile/img/aboutSilk.jpg

this one demonstrates my point..

I think I delete the other one

MUCH BETTER!

Ahh, the times before feminism 😃 when we were all equal 😃

Anyway. lots of women also used to own their pubs and resturants.
back in the old day where alcohol was free for all.
And they where private teachers and doctors..

Women where kind of equal back then..
feminism and socialism just fucked it up

Oh right, couldn't sell booze, but if you had it you could drink it 😃

Women dominated the private school sector and the private hospital sector..
when social welfare started.. they went unemployed..

Sort of how the role of the father became obsolete

Well there are laws now who can sell alchohol and stuff
and liquir stores and resturants are regulated by various health agencies
that favored MEN

Sweet!

my point was that women owned all the pubs and resturants
when there was no regulation..

you know the old sexy barmaid

Oh I *know* many 😉

(jokes)

What do you think should be provided by the state?

alot of things probably.. should be provided by the state
but the socialist most certainly got it all wrong.

Please elaborate.

state science
medical research
insurance
legal aid
post office.
police
water
electricity
roads
public housing,
parks
nature preserve
culture preserve subsidiare
other stuff

I think the wirees and telephone and internet
cables should be public
and the companies can run the actual services..

also I think you should have good
state schools only for the most gifted and smartest
and if they fail they have to go to private school

You don't think that schools should be the other way around?

also the central bank should be state owned..

nope

I dont want schools that are meant to equalize things..

What about schools that teach the unwashed masses how to get a job, to help the nation

I estimate that more than 30 percent of the population
are so genetically stupid they will auto fail any education..

just give education to the elite.. and only if they get good grades..
and treaten the parents with expulsion so they are dependentent

Formal education is certainly overrated.

I want conservative formal authoritarian disciplinarian schools

molding the entire country into the party

I certainly wouldn't attend one.

you know about confusian education system?

Nope

success in state school should mean that you get elevated social rank
that you become nobility and eligable for work in the goverment
and in the beurocracy

every who fails state education are
the servants and lower social classes..
the voice less

the elite shall be the thinkers, artists,lawmen and
beurocrats..
all loyal to the party

I can see how that would have merit. Especially for those who can succeed in that school environment.

its all about meritocracy..

What if there is a flaw in the system somewhere. Would the elites be free to question the system?

If you dont get this state education
then you still have rights and you are still protected by the law

the thing is that this system is very good at adjusting

the elites questions and address the social problems all the time

Yes its not regid in that sense

What if an elite, for example, wanted to question the existence of god? Or wanted to promote degeneracy?

consider our own democratic system
which is so obsesses with asking normal people what they think
to get their votes
that that the entire system is drowning in nonsensical opinions
and every fucking idiot is encouraged to believe
they just as insighfull as some professor.

Agreed.

in the Chinese beurocracy there where no theological restrictions.

But ensuring everyone has the same ideology can lead to a bit of insular thinking

The chinese beuroctats questioned and debated openly
every aspect of religion and tradition.

Good deal

the one shared ideology is just a front for the political system..

in our current political system nothing less than a fanatical ideology
can push through the simplest reform..

Agreed. Lowest common denominator is what can get consensus. Or outright war.

More specific. The shared ideology is the education system
people will not submit to authoritive teacher-student relationships
in a democracy.

Is authoritative the proper method?

Yes.

like anti-student democracy.

I haven't read this book in a while, but it moved me at the time. http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

The concept of the authoritarian follower was terrifying.

I read about teaching methods and the history of changes in teachers methods
and think the old disciplin oriented education sytem was the correct
one and this education we have now is based
on free upbringing and having discussions with children
to get them to understand things..

...sight I meant authoritarian as authoritian
not the political system..

Human beings have and need authority figures..

Yes, but questioning authority is very useful.

I am not saying that we should brainwash children or make everyone

That is a bit of modern propaganda you have been feed.

They did question authority

The individual should.

students and other teachers did question teatchers
in the entire victorian era.

But they did so within their system.
they still had authority figures..

Questioning authority isn't mutually exclusive with having authority.

the current school system has abolish the authorative figure

Exactly

I haven't been in school for quite a while.

you haven't?

I remember seeing peers spanked bare bottom in front of the whole class.

Teacher would keep a paddle on the wall near the door.

oh the old days..

are you that old?

From a rural town. So they probably were a bit resistant to change.

we need some of that BACK

And yeah, I'm probably much older than most of the people who use discord.

The physical punnishment is wrong.

But you dont actually need to get rid of the authority figure

It helped form my anti-authoritarian beliefs.

Teachers can be authority figures without resorting to violence

I agree. And they should.

I actually come from a savage private school.

When I got into a modern school
I was so fucking gratefull

and I hated my spoiled fucking peers
because they didn't appriciate it

My first reaction was actually that I wanted the teachers to be more authoritarian
to the other students who misbehaved

the problem with FREE schools.
is that the kids who are assholes
are not punnished.

I mostly just want to see the law applied even handedly and not selectively.

the problem with asshole school
is that everyone are punnished collectively all the time

(and for all consensual crimes to be legal)

LOL

Maybe I am a libertarian.

I consider myself very libertarian as well.

Collective punishment seems useful in the military I guess?

but I think society needs to be mix of the power we give to authorities
and the freedrom we demand for ourselves.

I dont think so.

I think collective punishment just damage the group morale

its not like soldiers get many luxeries to begin with..

also collective punishment
assumes that you dont know who is guilty..

you could speculate that just being in the army
and volunteering for a fucking war
is a sacrifice equivalent to collective punnishment already

Well, you get paid and some of it is tax free ...

if you survive and when you get back home...

True

My brain is going off on a bit of a libertarian tangent.

http://www.drugsense.org/mcwilliams/www.mcwilliams.com/books/books/aint/toc0.htm

It pretty much says that degeneracy ain't nobody's business.

I'm revisiting my views on authoritarianism and degeneracy though.

My experience with authoritarianism in grade school, was that questioning it wasn't allowed.

Children have no rights, bigger stronger men have rights and can beat you.

hello

Howdy.

I am not athoritarianist!

Why not?

its a stupid system..

It sounds like it would be useful for having society work as one functional unit.

leader= authority = IS NOT THE SAME AS DICTATORSHIP

have you heard about unity in diversity..

No, but I'm cringing thinking about it 😃

Basically I a mutualist and a liberal conservative.

Society can be one efficient unit
and people can still be free within it.

I'm not sure I agree.