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2017-05-09 05:10:47 UTC
2017-05-09 05:10:50 UTC

vet me

2017-05-09 05:11:29 UTC
2017-05-09 05:21:40 UTC

@Sado Mana ill vet u

2017-05-09 05:22:00 UTC

alright

2017-05-09 05:22:02 UTC

hi

2017-05-09 05:22:12 UTC

vc

2017-05-09 05:23:16 UTC

alright

2017-05-09 05:23:18 UTC

give me a sec

2017-05-09 05:37:04 UTC

Wew

2017-05-09 05:38:24 UTC

Hey

2017-05-09 07:38:33 UTC

Hey

2017-05-09 13:00:03 UTC

The invasion has begun...

2017-05-09 13:34:46 UTC

@Master Sethern to import immigrants?

2017-05-09 13:36:45 UTC

@Nothing_Much That's been going on for a while, but yeah on a higher level, and now they're pressuring Poland, and Hungary to take in immigrants.

2017-05-09 13:37:06 UTC

The politicians of Western Europe are committing treason

2017-05-09 13:37:12 UTC

The only solution is death for those types

2017-05-09 13:37:17 UTC

But, who is going to punish them for it? None.

2017-05-09 13:37:20 UTC

I know

2017-05-09 13:37:34 UTC

At this point political means of resolution aren't going to be enough

2017-05-09 13:37:41 UTC

Either white flight to America temporarily

2017-05-09 13:37:54 UTC

Or fight immediately and start losing more whites than what we have currently

2017-05-09 13:38:15 UTC

Our numbers are still way too small and we still have paper nationalists who believe that even with nonwhites they can still retain culture

2017-05-09 13:38:28 UTC

nononononono, if whites begin to leave Europe they will just fall in America --- Don't forget America takes in 1 million non white immigrants per year, that doesn't include of course the illegals that cross the border to the south.

2017-05-09 13:39:38 UTC

What do you mean?

2017-05-09 13:40:59 UTC

I'm not exactly sure, but what I do know is that the US has a very high control on the immigration from Europe in that it takes 90% non whites, and only 10% whites.

2017-05-09 14:24:26 UTC

@Nothing_Much Israel maintains its culture with nonjews

2017-05-09 14:24:38 UTC

So it isn't all doom and gloom

2017-05-09 14:26:04 UTC

@Montanan Because Israel doesn't give second/third worlders equal rights

2017-05-09 14:26:11 UTC

In fact, they don't even have niggers

2017-05-09 14:26:22 UTC

They sterilize niggers and then ship them back to Africa

2017-05-09 14:26:26 UTC

The nigger jews, that is

2017-05-09 14:30:22 UTC

I assume we could adopt their model.

2017-05-09 14:30:48 UTC

And that wouldn't be antisemitic 😄

2017-05-09 14:31:37 UTC

Also, I assume everyone has seen "The Greatest Story Never Told". I haven't finished it yet. Pretty interesting stuff.

2017-05-09 14:32:07 UTC

I have not finished it yet either.

2017-05-09 14:32:32 UTC

I just saw the part about the prelude to the war.

2017-05-09 14:33:29 UTC

I've seen half of it

2017-05-09 14:33:33 UTC

I really should finish it

2017-05-09 14:33:36 UTC

But I've been convinced

2017-05-09 14:41:39 UTC

I'm up to about 14/27

2017-05-09 16:18:12 UTC

Can anyone suggest any additional media to absorb?

2017-05-09 19:08:25 UTC

hello everyone!

2017-05-09 19:08:32 UTC

Hello.

2017-05-09 19:08:41 UTC

Nice!!!

2017-05-09 19:08:56 UTC

So can you voice?

2017-05-09 19:09:10 UTC

I can't at the moment. Work and stuff.

2017-05-09 19:09:36 UTC

have you heard about white sharia?
the stupidiest funniest shit ever.

2017-05-09 19:10:24 UTC

Googling it now, sounds odd.

2017-05-09 19:10:56 UTC

it really pissed me off..
But nooo

2017-05-09 19:10:59 UTC

DONT GOOGLE IT

2017-05-09 19:11:01 UTC

As an atheist, I'm not really for it 😛

2017-05-09 19:11:19 UTC

I want to give you the best link ever
I want to give you the best first impression

2017-05-09 19:11:23 UTC

uh oh

2017-05-09 19:12:15 UTC

oh my

2017-05-09 19:12:19 UTC

I also against it.. but its so fucking..

2017-05-09 19:12:31 UTC

I makes me angry and makes me laugh at the same time..

2017-05-09 19:13:14 UTC

I so fucking hope this is in't a real white nationalist opinion...

2017-05-09 19:14:43 UTC

I assume it is a poe

2017-05-09 19:15:15 UTC

they have awfully detailed arguments for it

2017-05-09 19:15:22 UTC

its like they really though about this alot

2017-05-09 19:16:08 UTC

check this out

2017-05-09 19:16:38 UTC

OMG that guy is that one mass shooter /s

2017-05-09 19:17:15 UTC

Looks like Andrew posted both of those articles

2017-05-09 19:18:04 UTC

IT FUCKING GOTTA BE FAKE

2017-05-09 19:18:15 UTC

I am so fucking sure I seen his face on some fakery before

2017-05-09 19:18:43 UTC

hehehehe

2017-05-09 19:18:48 UTC

Sam Hyde? Yeah 😛

2017-05-09 19:18:56 UTC

an approproation of white culture- WHAT THE FUCK

2017-05-09 19:19:06 UTC

Yeah thats the name, Sam Hyde..

2017-05-09 19:21:33 UTC

Well this Christopher Cantwell vidoe.

2017-05-09 19:23:09 UTC

it raise a point with the word "fascism".
The socialists and left only hated and opposed when the second world war started.
There was no ideological rivarly between fascism and communism
other than the rivarly between fascism and between communists.

2017-05-09 19:23:43 UTC

Stalin sure seems like not a cool bro.

2017-05-09 19:24:12 UTC

Stalin was worshipped in the entire world under the cold war

2017-05-09 19:24:24 UTC

Humans are weird.

2017-05-09 19:24:31 UTC

but that wasnt the point..

2017-05-09 19:24:56 UTC

fascism was slander world right after the world war

2017-05-09 19:25:32 UTC

after the world war socialist accused everyone they didn't like of fascism
because Soviety was an ally

2017-05-09 19:26:03 UTC

they worshipped Stalin in the west because there was no proof
of Stalins mass murders

2017-05-09 19:26:46 UTC

Looks like Anglin has at least $15k USD in BTC for his legal defense https://blockchain.info/address/19m9yEChBSPuzCzEMmg1dNbPvdLdWA59rS

2017-05-09 19:27:33 UTC

Fascism and National Socialism were definitely slandered.

2017-05-09 19:28:29 UTC

the belief after world war was basically that communism won
and that communism was a paradice dictatorship that didn't hurt anyone
and only fascism hurt people.
All dictatorships and all leaders in the entire world from the stone ages
where fascists and nazies.
And all forms of communist leaders are immune to slander.

2017-05-09 19:28:59 UTC

Yea but my point is that the socialist didn't know what fascism or nazism where.

2017-05-09 19:29:17 UTC

Everything that wasn't their ideology was fascist or nazi.

2017-05-09 19:29:34 UTC

Yep. Everything that doesn't fit their narrativfe.

2017-05-09 19:29:55 UTC

The german communists in the 60thies seriously believed
the democratic german republic
was 100% national socialist.

2017-05-09 19:30:16 UTC

They promote a victim mentality. Everyone who disagrees is a demon.

2017-05-09 19:30:31 UTC

exactly everyone that didn't fit their narrative was fascist or something.

2017-05-09 19:30:48 UTC

Well the victim cult is a modern thing.

2017-05-09 19:31:01 UTC

I disagree. But it is booming in modern times.

2017-05-09 19:31:13 UTC

The old communist and socialist despiced weakness

2017-05-09 19:31:14 UTC

Victim mentality probably lead the Jews to Israel

2017-05-09 19:31:32 UTC

No the victim cult comes from the hippies
and from the usefull idiots.

2017-05-09 19:32:02 UTC

In the 30thies and even in the 60thies
there where very little interest in mercy or compassion...

2017-05-09 19:32:14 UTC

I think jews were embracing the victim status in the 40s and 50s, but I could be wrong.

2017-05-09 19:32:47 UTC

And lumped their cause with all other popular victim status causes.

2017-05-09 19:33:01 UTC

So being anti-feminist means being anti-narrative means being a Nazi

2017-05-09 19:33:04 UTC

Yeah kind of but they did that only because the militant approach failed. if you see what I mean.

2017-05-09 19:33:10 UTC

Sure, yes.

2017-05-09 19:33:30 UTC

If you read about the communist groups and their rethoric

2017-05-09 19:34:00 UTC

the thing that strikes me is the difference in their values and attitudes to things like human life..

2017-05-09 19:34:21 UTC

also the socialist movement used to be pretty sexist...

2017-05-09 19:34:39 UTC

the idea of feminism was seen as capitalist..

2017-05-09 19:35:04 UTC

also the socialists where not spoiled children then

2017-05-09 19:35:17 UTC

originally the socialists where psychopathic workerclass brutes

2017-05-09 19:35:23 UTC

Everything is sexist and racist.

2017-05-09 19:35:58 UTC

yeah but in the 30thies, workerclass movements hated the idea of women stealing their jobs..

2017-05-09 19:36:19 UTC

Someone vetted Virtue? Okay I'm outta here 😉

2017-05-09 19:36:31 UTC

they also hated the idea of rich women telling poor men what to do
-by hirering poor people for labout..

2017-05-09 19:36:39 UTC

Okej

2017-05-09 19:36:42 UTC

bye

2017-05-09 19:36:47 UTC

jokes

2017-05-09 19:37:09 UTC

Women only "steal" white collar jobs.

2017-05-09 19:37:30 UTC

I dont think they understud the difference..

2017-05-09 19:37:32 UTC

Women won't steal coal miner jobs.

2017-05-09 19:37:54 UTC

True.. but I dont think they saw it like that..

2017-05-09 19:38:12 UTC

They probably did. White collar jobs are the good jobs 😛 the only ones worth stealing.

2017-05-09 19:38:34 UTC

well back in those days -- women actually stole some factory jobs

2017-05-09 19:39:01 UTC

actually lots of factories had alot and alot of women..
when the first machines where installed

2017-05-09 19:41:17 UTC

this one demonstrates my point..

2017-05-09 19:42:16 UTC

I think I delete the other one

2017-05-09 19:42:27 UTC

MUCH BETTER!

2017-05-09 19:42:59 UTC

Ahh, the times before feminism 😃 when we were all equal 😃

2017-05-09 19:43:46 UTC

Anyway. lots of women also used to own their pubs and resturants.
back in the old day where alcohol was free for all.
And they where private teachers and doctors..

2017-05-09 19:44:08 UTC

Women where kind of equal back then..
feminism and socialism just fucked it up

2017-05-09 19:44:38 UTC

Oh right, couldn't sell booze, but if you had it you could drink it 😃

2017-05-09 19:44:57 UTC

Women dominated the private school sector and the private hospital sector..
when social welfare started.. they went unemployed..

2017-05-09 19:45:24 UTC

Sort of how the role of the father became obsolete

2017-05-09 19:46:20 UTC

Well there are laws now who can sell alchohol and stuff
and liquir stores and resturants are regulated by various health agencies
that favored MEN

2017-05-09 19:46:37 UTC

Sweet!

2017-05-09 19:46:56 UTC

my point was that women owned all the pubs and resturants
when there was no regulation..

2017-05-09 19:47:15 UTC

you know the old sexy barmaid

2017-05-09 19:47:24 UTC

Oh I *know* many 😉

2017-05-09 19:47:35 UTC

(jokes)

2017-05-09 19:49:29 UTC

What do you think should be provided by the state?

2017-05-09 19:50:12 UTC

alot of things probably.. should be provided by the state
but the socialist most certainly got it all wrong.

2017-05-09 19:50:35 UTC

Please elaborate.

2017-05-09 19:52:57 UTC

state science
medical research
insurance
legal aid
post office.
police
water
electricity
roads
public housing,
parks
nature preserve
culture preserve subsidiare
other stuff

2017-05-09 19:53:47 UTC

I think the wirees and telephone and internet
cables should be public
and the companies can run the actual services..

2017-05-09 19:54:30 UTC

also I think you should have good
state schools only for the most gifted and smartest
and if they fail they have to go to private school

2017-05-09 19:54:49 UTC

You don't think that schools should be the other way around?

2017-05-09 19:54:54 UTC

also the central bank should be state owned..

2017-05-09 19:55:00 UTC

nope

2017-05-09 19:55:15 UTC

I dont want schools that are meant to equalize things..

2017-05-09 19:55:35 UTC

What about schools that teach the unwashed masses how to get a job, to help the nation

2017-05-09 19:56:14 UTC

I estimate that more than 30 percent of the population
are so genetically stupid they will auto fail any education..

2017-05-09 19:56:56 UTC

just give education to the elite.. and only if they get good grades..
and treaten the parents with expulsion so they are dependentent

2017-05-09 19:56:57 UTC

Formal education is certainly overrated.

2017-05-09 19:57:25 UTC

I want conservative formal authoritarian disciplinarian schools

2017-05-09 19:57:38 UTC

molding the entire country into the party

2017-05-09 19:57:41 UTC

I certainly wouldn't attend one.

2017-05-09 19:58:13 UTC

you know about confusian education system?

2017-05-09 19:58:54 UTC

Nope

2017-05-09 19:59:13 UTC

success in state school should mean that you get elevated social rank
that you become nobility and eligable for work in the goverment
and in the beurocracy

2017-05-09 19:59:33 UTC

every who fails state education are
the servants and lower social classes..
the voice less

2017-05-09 19:59:56 UTC

the elite shall be the thinkers, artists,lawmen and
beurocrats..
all loyal to the party

2017-05-09 20:00:05 UTC

I can see how that would have merit. Especially for those who can succeed in that school environment.

2017-05-09 20:00:17 UTC

its all about meritocracy..

2017-05-09 20:00:31 UTC

What if there is a flaw in the system somewhere. Would the elites be free to question the system?

2017-05-09 20:00:52 UTC

If you dont get this state education
then you still have rights and you are still protected by the law

2017-05-09 20:01:13 UTC

the thing is that this system is very good at adjusting

2017-05-09 20:01:29 UTC

the elites questions and address the social problems all the time

2017-05-09 20:01:43 UTC

Yes its not regid in that sense

2017-05-09 20:02:00 UTC

What if an elite, for example, wanted to question the existence of god? Or wanted to promote degeneracy?

2017-05-09 20:03:09 UTC

consider our own democratic system
which is so obsesses with asking normal people what they think
to get their votes
that that the entire system is drowning in nonsensical opinions
and every fucking idiot is encouraged to believe
they just as insighfull as some professor.

2017-05-09 20:03:21 UTC

Agreed.

2017-05-09 20:03:32 UTC

in the Chinese beurocracy there where no theological restrictions.

2017-05-09 20:03:53 UTC

But ensuring everyone has the same ideology can lead to a bit of insular thinking

2017-05-09 20:03:58 UTC

The chinese beuroctats questioned and debated openly
every aspect of religion and tradition.

2017-05-09 20:04:07 UTC

Good deal

2017-05-09 20:04:35 UTC

the one shared ideology is just a front for the political system..

2017-05-09 20:05:05 UTC

in our current political system nothing less than a fanatical ideology
can push through the simplest reform..

2017-05-09 20:05:48 UTC

Agreed. Lowest common denominator is what can get consensus. Or outright war.

2017-05-09 20:06:06 UTC

More specific. The shared ideology is the education system
people will not submit to authoritive teacher-student relationships
in a democracy.

2017-05-09 20:06:31 UTC

Is authoritative the proper method?

2017-05-09 20:06:37 UTC

Yes.

2017-05-09 20:06:49 UTC

like anti-student democracy.

2017-05-09 20:07:11 UTC

I haven't read this book in a while, but it moved me at the time. http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

2017-05-09 20:07:52 UTC

The concept of the authoritarian follower was terrifying.

2017-05-09 20:08:39 UTC

I read about teaching methods and the history of changes in teachers methods
and think the old disciplin oriented education sytem was the correct
one and this education we have now is based
on free upbringing and having discussions with children
to get them to understand things..

2017-05-09 20:09:16 UTC

...sight I meant authoritarian as authoritian
not the political system..

2017-05-09 20:09:25 UTC

Human beings have and need authority figures..

2017-05-09 20:10:04 UTC

Yes, but questioning authority is very useful.

2017-05-09 20:10:07 UTC

I am not saying that we should brainwash children or make everyone

2017-05-09 20:10:23 UTC

That is a bit of modern propaganda you have been feed.

2017-05-09 20:10:35 UTC

They did question authority

2017-05-09 20:10:46 UTC

The individual should.

2017-05-09 20:11:05 UTC

students and other teachers did question teatchers
in the entire victorian era.

2017-05-09 20:11:25 UTC

But they did so within their system.
they still had authority figures..

2017-05-09 20:11:49 UTC

Questioning authority isn't mutually exclusive with having authority.

2017-05-09 20:11:52 UTC

the current school system has abolish the authorative figure

2017-05-09 20:11:59 UTC

Exactly

2017-05-09 20:12:13 UTC

I haven't been in school for quite a while.

2017-05-09 20:12:28 UTC

you haven't?

2017-05-09 20:12:36 UTC

I remember seeing peers spanked bare bottom in front of the whole class.

2017-05-09 20:12:52 UTC

Teacher would keep a paddle on the wall near the door.

2017-05-09 20:13:05 UTC

oh the old days..

2017-05-09 20:13:16 UTC

are you that old?

2017-05-09 20:13:30 UTC

From a rural town. So they probably were a bit resistant to change.

2017-05-09 20:13:36 UTC

we need some of that BACK

2017-05-09 20:13:44 UTC

And yeah, I'm probably much older than most of the people who use discord.

2017-05-09 20:14:18 UTC

The physical punnishment is wrong.

2017-05-09 20:14:34 UTC

But you dont actually need to get rid of the authority figure

2017-05-09 20:14:39 UTC

It helped form my anti-authoritarian beliefs.

2017-05-09 20:14:56 UTC

Teachers can be authority figures without resorting to violence

2017-05-09 20:15:07 UTC

I agree. And they should.

2017-05-09 20:15:13 UTC

I actually come from a savage private school.

2017-05-09 20:15:30 UTC

When I got into a modern school
I was so fucking gratefull

2017-05-09 20:15:51 UTC

and I hated my spoiled fucking peers
because they didn't appriciate it

2017-05-09 20:16:29 UTC

My first reaction was actually that I wanted the teachers to be more authoritarian
to the other students who misbehaved

2017-05-09 20:17:03 UTC

the problem with FREE schools.
is that the kids who are assholes
are not punnished.

2017-05-09 20:17:13 UTC

I mostly just want to see the law applied even handedly and not selectively.

2017-05-09 20:17:28 UTC

the problem with asshole school
is that everyone are punnished collectively all the time

2017-05-09 20:17:37 UTC

(and for all consensual crimes to be legal)

2017-05-09 20:17:46 UTC

LOL

2017-05-09 20:17:47 UTC

Maybe I am a libertarian.

2017-05-09 20:18:01 UTC

I consider myself very libertarian as well.

2017-05-09 20:18:24 UTC

Collective punishment seems useful in the military I guess?

2017-05-09 20:18:50 UTC

but I think society needs to be mix of the power we give to authorities
and the freedrom we demand for ourselves.

2017-05-09 20:19:05 UTC

I dont think so.

2017-05-09 20:19:20 UTC

I think collective punishment just damage the group morale

2017-05-09 20:19:39 UTC

its not like soldiers get many luxeries to begin with..

2017-05-09 20:20:14 UTC

also collective punishment
assumes that you dont know who is guilty..

2017-05-09 20:21:05 UTC

you could speculate that just being in the army
and volunteering for a fucking war
is a sacrifice equivalent to collective punnishment already

2017-05-09 20:21:32 UTC

Well, you get paid and some of it is tax free ...

2017-05-09 20:21:51 UTC

if you survive and when you get back home...

2017-05-09 20:21:54 UTC

True

2017-05-09 20:23:15 UTC

My brain is going off on a bit of a libertarian tangent.

2017-05-09 20:23:57 UTC

It pretty much says that degeneracy ain't nobody's business.

2017-05-09 20:25:02 UTC

I'm revisiting my views on authoritarianism and degeneracy though.

2017-05-09 20:26:37 UTC

My experience with authoritarianism in grade school, was that questioning it wasn't allowed.

2017-05-09 20:27:02 UTC

Children have no rights, bigger stronger men have rights and can beat you.

2017-05-09 20:28:38 UTC

hello

2017-05-09 20:28:43 UTC

Howdy.

2017-05-09 20:28:58 UTC

I am not athoritarianist!

2017-05-09 20:29:14 UTC

Why not?

2017-05-09 20:29:23 UTC

its a stupid system..

2017-05-09 20:29:39 UTC

It sounds like it would be useful for having society work as one functional unit.

2017-05-09 20:29:48 UTC

leader= authority = IS NOT THE SAME AS DICTATORSHIP

2017-05-09 20:30:11 UTC

have you heard about unity in diversity..

2017-05-09 20:30:23 UTC

No, but I'm cringing thinking about it 😃

2017-05-09 20:30:41 UTC

Basically I a mutualist and a liberal conservative.

2017-05-09 20:31:07 UTC

Society can be one efficient unit
and people can still be free within it.

2017-05-09 20:31:17 UTC

I'm not sure I agree.

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