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The invasion has begun...
@Nothing_Much That's been going on for a while, but yeah on a higher level, and now they're pressuring Poland, and Hungary to take in immigrants.
The politicians of Western Europe are committing treason
The only solution is death for those types
But, who is going to punish them for it? None.
At this point political means of resolution aren't going to be enough
Either white flight to America temporarily
Or fight immediately and start losing more whites than what we have currently
Our numbers are still way too small and we still have paper nationalists who believe that even with nonwhites they can still retain culture
nononononono, if whites begin to leave Europe they will just fall in America --- Don't forget America takes in 1 million non white immigrants per year, that doesn't include of course the illegals that cross the border to the south.
What do you mean?
I'm not exactly sure, but what I do know is that the US has a very high control on the immigration from Europe in that it takes 90% non whites, and only 10% whites.
So it isn't all doom and gloom
@Montanan Because Israel doesn't give second/third worlders equal rights
In fact, they don't even have niggers
They sterilize niggers and then ship them back to Africa
The nigger jews, that is
I assume we could adopt their model.
And that wouldn't be antisemitic 😄
Also, I assume everyone has seen "The Greatest Story Never Told". I haven't finished it yet. Pretty interesting stuff.
I have not finished it yet either.
I just saw the part about the prelude to the war.
I've seen half of it
I really should finish it
But I've been convinced
I'm up to about 14/27
Can anyone suggest any additional media to absorb?
So can you voice?
I can't at the moment. Work and stuff.
have you heard about white sharia?
the stupidiest funniest shit ever.
Googling it now, sounds odd.
it really pissed me off..
DONT GOOGLE IT
As an atheist, I'm not really for it 😛
I want to give you the best link ever
I want to give you the best first impression
I also against it.. but its so fucking..
I makes me angry and makes me laugh at the same time..
I so fucking hope this is in't a real white nationalist opinion...
I assume it is a poe
they have awfully detailed arguments for it
its like they really though about this alot
check this out
OMG that guy is that one mass shooter /s
Looks like Andrew posted both of those articles
IT FUCKING GOTTA BE FAKE
I am so fucking sure I seen his face on some fakery before
Sam Hyde? Yeah 😛
an approproation of white culture- WHAT THE FUCK
Yeah thats the name, Sam Hyde..
Well this Christopher Cantwell vidoe.
it raise a point with the word "fascism".
The socialists and left only hated and opposed when the second world war started.
There was no ideological rivarly between fascism and communism
other than the rivarly between fascism and between communists.
Stalin sure seems like not a cool bro.
Stalin was worshipped in the entire world under the cold war
Humans are weird.
but that wasnt the point..
fascism was slander world right after the world war
after the world war socialist accused everyone they didn't like of fascism
because Soviety was an ally
they worshipped Stalin in the west because there was no proof
of Stalins mass murders
Looks like Anglin has at least $15k USD in BTC for his legal defense https://blockchain.info/address/19m9yEChBSPuzCzEMmg1dNbPvdLdWA59rS
Fascism and National Socialism were definitely slandered.
the belief after world war was basically that communism won
and that communism was a paradice dictatorship that didn't hurt anyone
and only fascism hurt people.
All dictatorships and all leaders in the entire world from the stone ages
where fascists and nazies.
And all forms of communist leaders are immune to slander.
Yea but my point is that the socialist didn't know what fascism or nazism where.
Everything that wasn't their ideology was fascist or nazi.
Yep. Everything that doesn't fit their narrativfe.
The german communists in the 60thies seriously believed
the democratic german republic
was 100% national socialist.
They promote a victim mentality. Everyone who disagrees is a demon.
exactly everyone that didn't fit their narrative was fascist or something.
Well the victim cult is a modern thing.
I disagree. But it is booming in modern times.
The old communist and socialist despiced weakness
Victim mentality probably lead the Jews to Israel
No the victim cult comes from the hippies
and from the usefull idiots.
In the 30thies and even in the 60thies
there where very little interest in mercy or compassion...
I think jews were embracing the victim status in the 40s and 50s, but I could be wrong.
And lumped their cause with all other popular victim status causes.
So being anti-feminist means being anti-narrative means being a Nazi
Yeah kind of but they did that only because the militant approach failed. if you see what I mean.
If you read about the communist groups and their rethoric
the thing that strikes me is the difference in their values and attitudes to things like human life..
also the socialist movement used to be pretty sexist...
the idea of feminism was seen as capitalist..
also the socialists where not spoiled children then
originally the socialists where psychopathic workerclass brutes
Everything is sexist and racist.
yeah but in the 30thies, workerclass movements hated the idea of women stealing their jobs..
Someone vetted Virtue? Okay I'm outta here 😉
they also hated the idea of rich women telling poor men what to do
-by hirering poor people for labout..
Women only "steal" white collar jobs.
I dont think they understud the difference..
Women won't steal coal miner jobs.
True.. but I dont think they saw it like that..
They probably did. White collar jobs are the good jobs 😛 the only ones worth stealing.
well back in those days -- women actually stole some factory jobs
actually lots of factories had alot and alot of women..
when the first machines where installed
this one demonstrates my point..
I think I delete the other one
Ahh, the times before feminism 😃 when we were all equal 😃
Anyway. lots of women also used to own their pubs and resturants.
back in the old day where alcohol was free for all.
And they where private teachers and doctors..
Women where kind of equal back then..
feminism and socialism just fucked it up
Oh right, couldn't sell booze, but if you had it you could drink it 😃
Women dominated the private school sector and the private hospital sector..
when social welfare started.. they went unemployed..
Sort of how the role of the father became obsolete
Well there are laws now who can sell alchohol and stuff
and liquir stores and resturants are regulated by various health agencies
that favored MEN
my point was that women owned all the pubs and resturants
when there was no regulation..
you know the old sexy barmaid
Oh I *know* many 😉
What do you think should be provided by the state?
alot of things probably.. should be provided by the state
but the socialist most certainly got it all wrong.
culture preserve subsidiare
I think the wirees and telephone and internet
cables should be public
and the companies can run the actual services..
also I think you should have good
state schools only for the most gifted and smartest
and if they fail they have to go to private school
You don't think that schools should be the other way around?
also the central bank should be state owned..
I dont want schools that are meant to equalize things..
What about schools that teach the unwashed masses how to get a job, to help the nation
I estimate that more than 30 percent of the population
are so genetically stupid they will auto fail any education..
just give education to the elite.. and only if they get good grades..
and treaten the parents with expulsion so they are dependentent
Formal education is certainly overrated.
I want conservative formal authoritarian disciplinarian schools
molding the entire country into the party
I certainly wouldn't attend one.
you know about confusian education system?
success in state school should mean that you get elevated social rank
that you become nobility and eligable for work in the goverment
and in the beurocracy
every who fails state education are
the servants and lower social classes..
the voice less
the elite shall be the thinkers, artists,lawmen and
all loyal to the party
I can see how that would have merit. Especially for those who can succeed in that school environment.
its all about meritocracy..
What if there is a flaw in the system somewhere. Would the elites be free to question the system?
If you dont get this state education
then you still have rights and you are still protected by the law
the thing is that this system is very good at adjusting
the elites questions and address the social problems all the time
Yes its not regid in that sense
What if an elite, for example, wanted to question the existence of god? Or wanted to promote degeneracy?
consider our own democratic system
which is so obsesses with asking normal people what they think
to get their votes
that that the entire system is drowning in nonsensical opinions
and every fucking idiot is encouraged to believe
they just as insighfull as some professor.
in the Chinese beurocracy there where no theological restrictions.
But ensuring everyone has the same ideology can lead to a bit of insular thinking
The chinese beuroctats questioned and debated openly
every aspect of religion and tradition.
the one shared ideology is just a front for the political system..
in our current political system nothing less than a fanatical ideology
can push through the simplest reform..
Agreed. Lowest common denominator is what can get consensus. Or outright war.
More specific. The shared ideology is the education system
people will not submit to authoritive teacher-student relationships
in a democracy.
Is authoritative the proper method?
like anti-student democracy.
I haven't read this book in a while, but it moved me at the time. http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
The concept of the authoritarian follower was terrifying.
I read about teaching methods and the history of changes in teachers methods
and think the old disciplin oriented education sytem was the correct
one and this education we have now is based
on free upbringing and having discussions with children
to get them to understand things..
...sight I meant authoritarian as authoritian
not the political system..
Human beings have and need authority figures..
Yes, but questioning authority is very useful.
I am not saying that we should brainwash children or make everyone
That is a bit of modern propaganda you have been feed.
They did question authority
The individual should.
students and other teachers did question teatchers
in the entire victorian era.
But they did so within their system.
they still had authority figures..
Questioning authority isn't mutually exclusive with having authority.
the current school system has abolish the authorative figure
I haven't been in school for quite a while.
I remember seeing peers spanked bare bottom in front of the whole class.
Teacher would keep a paddle on the wall near the door.
oh the old days..
are you that old?
From a rural town. So they probably were a bit resistant to change.
we need some of that BACK
And yeah, I'm probably much older than most of the people who use discord.
The physical punnishment is wrong.
But you dont actually need to get rid of the authority figure
It helped form my anti-authoritarian beliefs.
Teachers can be authority figures without resorting to violence
I agree. And they should.
I actually come from a savage private school.
When I got into a modern school
I was so fucking gratefull
and I hated my spoiled fucking peers
because they didn't appriciate it
My first reaction was actually that I wanted the teachers to be more authoritarian
to the other students who misbehaved
the problem with FREE schools.
is that the kids who are assholes
are not punnished.
I mostly just want to see the law applied even handedly and not selectively.
the problem with asshole school
is that everyone are punnished collectively all the time
(and for all consensual crimes to be legal)
Maybe I am a libertarian.
I consider myself very libertarian as well.
Collective punishment seems useful in the military I guess?
but I think society needs to be mix of the power we give to authorities
and the freedrom we demand for ourselves.
I dont think so.
I think collective punishment just damage the group morale
its not like soldiers get many luxeries to begin with..
also collective punishment
assumes that you dont know who is guilty..
you could speculate that just being in the army
and volunteering for a fucking war
is a sacrifice equivalent to collective punnishment already
Well, you get paid and some of it is tax free ...
if you survive and when you get back home...
My brain is going off on a bit of a libertarian tangent.
It pretty much says that degeneracy ain't nobody's business.
I'm revisiting my views on authoritarianism and degeneracy though.
My experience with authoritarianism in grade school, was that questioning it wasn't allowed.
Children have no rights, bigger stronger men have rights and can beat you.
I am not athoritarianist!
its a stupid system..
It sounds like it would be useful for having society work as one functional unit.
leader= authority = IS NOT THE SAME AS DICTATORSHIP
have you heard about unity in diversity..
No, but I'm cringing thinking about it 😃
Basically I a mutualist and a liberal conservative.
Society can be one efficient unit
and people can still be free within it.
I'm not sure I agree.