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2018-03-23 12:10:19 UTC

Its a charlie-grade attack

2018-03-23 12:10:33 UTC

"The suspect has declared himself a soldier of ISIS
two victims seen lying on ground in supermarket - conditions unknown
~~the assailant is now alone in the supermarket and the hostages have left the building~~
sources are saying 2 dead and 12 injured so far
The telegraph is saying that the suspect is a man in his thirties, he has several grenades and wants to 'avenge Syria'"

2018-03-23 12:10:51 UTC

>conditions unknown

2018-03-23 12:11:07 UTC

ree quote doesn't support markdown

2018-03-23 12:11:17 UTC

` is not for quotes

2018-03-23 12:11:20 UTC

it's inline code

2018-03-23 12:11:34 UTC

i suck at discord

2018-03-23 12:11:35 UTC

French journalists says there is still hostages in there

2018-03-23 12:11:44 UTC

that's not discord, it's markdown

2018-03-23 12:11:47 UTC

in markdown > is for quotes

2018-03-23 12:11:52 UTC

but discord didn't implement that

2018-03-23 12:17:15 UTC

due >4chan

2018-03-23 12:17:31 UTC

oh yes.. imagine if 4chan would get markdown support

2018-03-23 12:17:34 UTC

that would be hell

2018-03-23 12:17:58 UTC

Didn't they had some magic threads?

2018-03-23 12:18:08 UTC

Like I remember seeing one on /v/ where they played the Robot Unicorn Attack song

2018-03-23 12:18:19 UTC

Or was it original Erasure - Always

2018-03-23 12:18:59 UTC

Also status update, you can currently move and jump and even go to the next level in my game

2018-03-23 12:19:10 UTC

That is now worth at least 10โ‚ฌ instead of 5โ‚ฌ

2018-03-23 12:26:41 UTC

They have a gigantic ad for the company behind this thing for unity

2018-03-23 12:27:16 UTC

And of course it's filled with business bullshit like "INSPIRATION, CARRIER, BUSNESS SUCCESS, IMPROVEMENT"

2018-03-23 12:32:30 UTC

I never understood why they don't have ads with " RESPECT, MONEY, MERCEDES, WOMEN, MONACO"

2018-03-23 12:32:51 UTC

who cares about getting inspiration or improving

2018-03-23 12:36:02 UTC

to be honest id love improving and inspiration anyday over monaco and women

2018-03-23 12:36:02 UTC

:D

2018-03-23 12:36:13 UTC

specialy if those women are fro mmonaco

2018-03-23 12:36:56 UTC

They even have those stock drawings

2018-03-23 12:37:02 UTC

Like that one shield with a checkmark on it

2018-03-23 12:41:19 UTC

also who ever needs Chili/pepper grinder i suggest heading for this one https://www.gearbest.com/coffee-tea-sets/pp_1623198.html

2018-03-23 12:45:41 UTC

And now my fox has idle and run animation

2018-03-23 12:45:43 UTC

15โ‚ฌ baby

2018-03-23 12:45:59 UTC

Few features more and it will be worth more than Hunt Down The Freeman

2018-03-23 12:53:06 UTC

wtf i was literally looking for a coffee grinder today <:thonk:288060975775612929> @Tervy

2018-03-23 12:57:27 UTC

Kek

2018-03-23 12:57:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/189467888657235970/426726299382448138/image.jpg

2018-03-23 13:01:49 UTC

is this...

2018-03-23 13:01:51 UTC

LOZ

2018-03-23 13:02:24 UTC

Thanks to this picture I'm at loss for words to express my reaction.

2018-03-23 13:02:26 UTC

@Liam you mean the company or me personally

2018-03-23 13:02:31 UTC

b-both

2018-03-23 13:02:37 UTC

we sell EAS equipment

2018-03-23 13:02:41 UTC

im a developer

2018-03-23 13:02:44 UTC

ahh

2018-03-23 13:03:16 UTC

then you know how poor some of those gates are @Goz3rr i have had some fun with some designs

2018-03-23 13:03:44 UTC

out of curioisty what method your gates use for tags

2018-03-23 13:03:50 UTC

we sell both AM and RF systems

2018-03-23 13:03:51 UTC

or do you mix and match for customers needs

2018-03-23 13:04:03 UTC

some stores have both

2018-03-23 13:04:08 UTC

You have a cool job

2018-03-23 13:04:59 UTC

also @Goz3rr how is your jammer resistance these days on gates (havent followed that field in ages)

2018-03-23 13:05:32 UTC

jammers are barely used afaik

2018-03-23 13:05:44 UTC

it's way more common for people to have metal lined booster bags

2018-03-23 13:05:47 UTC

to act as a faraday cage

2018-03-23 13:05:53 UTC

yeah

2018-03-23 13:05:54 UTC

we have the option to fit our gates with metal detection

2018-03-23 13:06:25 UTC

due i probly still have somewhere schematics for adaptive jammer dohoho

2018-03-23 13:06:37 UTC

it was proof of concept back in the automation engineering times

2018-03-23 13:06:41 UTC

i think we have some around the office too yeah

2018-03-23 13:06:53 UTC

honestly to get out you dont even need a jammer

2018-03-23 13:06:59 UTC

it was more fun when used to trigger gates than jam them

2018-03-23 13:07:04 UTC

yeah

2018-03-23 13:07:05 UTC

i know

2018-03-23 13:07:13 UTC

ahh good times

2018-03-23 13:07:18 UTC

to be young and careless

2018-03-23 13:07:19 UTC

hostages still in the building btw

2018-03-23 13:07:39 UTC

@Brokenman hope it resolves soon

2018-03-23 13:08:04 UTC

I don't think it will end well sadly

2018-03-23 13:08:23 UTC

the gign and the raid is currently fucked they don't know how to enter

2018-03-23 13:08:59 UTC

Use Fuze

2018-03-23 13:09:07 UTC

>all hostages dead

2018-03-23 13:09:08 UTC

good enough

2018-03-23 13:09:51 UTC

@Tervy what do you thinkof the wavebubble?

2018-03-23 13:10:25 UTC

@Goz3rr now the most important question does your company also enable usertracking with the gates

2018-03-23 13:10:35 UTC

maybe <:alismirk:230784726615588865>

2018-03-23 13:10:49 UTC

with the rfid from banking cards i bet

2018-03-23 13:10:59 UTC

hah we tried RFID for product tracking for a while

2018-03-23 13:11:05 UTC

it was complete waste of time

2018-03-23 13:11:13 UTC

for people tracking though

2018-03-23 13:11:26 UTC

we employ cameras, wifi/bluetooth and simple IR beams

2018-03-23 13:11:50 UTC

IR beams for dumb visitor counting

2018-03-23 13:12:01 UTC

the other two for persistent tracking of people and return rates etc

2018-03-23 13:12:08 UTC

and where in there store they go

2018-03-23 13:12:19 UTC

cameras can even tell you demographics

2018-03-23 13:12:38 UTC

@Turbo sorry didnt see your comments first. i heard about it but havent tested or seen any workings etc of it

2018-03-23 13:12:42 UTC

hard to say anything tbh

2018-03-23 13:13:25 UTC

@Goz3rr yeah so the basics ^^ just wanted to check

2018-03-23 13:13:35 UTC

i have currently one freelancing order to similar company

2018-03-23 13:13:43 UTC

so just investigating :P

2018-03-23 13:13:46 UTC

we're developing some other things

2018-03-23 13:13:51 UTC

that i cant really talk about

2018-03-23 13:13:59 UTC

i know that feel

2018-03-23 13:14:13 UTC

No problem, haven't seen those myself either and ordering jammers from China has been severely discouraged here

2018-03-23 13:14:33 UTC

the company wants me to profile-per person- per datapoint (what they pick what they look at etc) customers

2018-03-23 13:14:42 UTC

@Goz3rr did you vote for or against WiV intelligence law?

2018-03-23 13:14:51 UTC

and i have morals and i dont want to do it that accurately

2018-03-23 13:15:00 UTC

@Turbo against

2018-03-23 13:15:12 UTC

not because im against a new law, i'm just against the current implementation

2018-03-23 13:15:24 UTC

shit that was put in the regeerakkoord should be in the law instead

2018-03-23 13:15:39 UTC

@Tervy our customers want us to do that too but EU laws are pesky <:alismirk:230784726615588865>

2018-03-23 13:15:57 UTC

we're already treading a fine line

2018-03-23 13:15:58 UTC

well not that pesky if you word and store stuff right

2018-03-23 13:16:07 UTC

but still there is just things i dont want to do (a LOT )

2018-03-23 13:16:36 UTC

thankfully EU is kicking most of the companies to the balls

2018-03-23 13:16:47 UTC

@Goz3rr "threading a fine line" that's why I asked kek

2018-03-23 13:16:53 UTC

specialy the still in drafting table law about usage of camers for profiling

2018-03-23 13:16:59 UTC

will kill so many companies around the eu

2018-03-23 13:17:22 UTC

the dutch national railroads were recently revealed to use ads that used cameras to track people who look at them

2018-03-23 13:17:29 UTC

nothing new but suddenly a public outcry over it

2018-03-23 13:17:30 UTC

aka = no tracking for anyone but goverment draft

2018-03-23 13:17:44 UTC

yeah

2018-03-23 13:18:13 UTC

I think it upsets a lot of people

2018-03-23 13:18:31 UTC

It's just that maybe <5% know about it

2018-03-23 13:18:35 UTC

i personally don't really mind

2018-03-23 13:18:48 UTC

you're in public, i have no expectation of privacy there

2018-03-23 13:19:07 UTC

tracking is not really about privacy tho

2018-03-23 13:19:18 UTC

I think you should, many others think as well. I mean, who really owns the public space?

2018-03-23 13:19:20 UTC

its about making profile out of you

2018-03-23 13:19:32 UTC

you would not want psychoanalyst next to you everywhere you go in public

2018-03-23 13:19:38 UTC

why would you want computer doing same thing

2018-03-23 13:20:19 UTC

Not only that, having someone look at me and analyze me for every step I take would make me anxious as fuck.

2018-03-23 13:20:34 UTC

local advert company tried to but similar advertisement boards with camera up here

2018-03-23 13:20:46 UTC

they got icepicked by local security community quite fast

2018-03-23 13:20:54 UTC

see that's different

2018-03-23 13:20:57 UTC

if you have shit security

2018-03-23 13:21:19 UTC

but i mean the way it's done (and we do it) it's impossible to link people together across different stores

2018-03-23 13:21:50 UTC

(i would not use term impossible) but for average human its near impossible within wise timeframe

2018-03-23 13:22:40 UTC

impossible would require taking everything what makers person a "demographic" out of said data

2018-03-23 13:23:16 UTC

we only save unique data for a month

2018-03-23 13:23:31 UTC

after that's it's all grouped together so we can still display statistics but no longer individual datapoints

2018-03-23 13:26:16 UTC

well if and only if the data has no backups during that month and its solely on your hold (zero thirdparty on any point) transported securely + stripped out of all location data

2018-03-23 13:26:28 UTC

azure <:alismirk:230784726615588865>

2018-03-23 13:26:35 UTC

:-----D

2018-03-23 13:26:39 UTC

:DDD

2018-03-23 13:26:44 UTC

@Goz3rr sounds like a great system

2018-03-23 13:26:51 UTC

but month

2018-03-23 13:27:05 UTC

its a fuckign long time to have your identity stored on multiple places

2018-03-23 13:27:18 UTC

idk if it's actually a month

2018-03-23 13:27:22 UTC

i dont work on that part of the software as much anymore

2018-03-23 13:27:35 UTC

It's not really an identity if it's not identifiable is it?

2018-03-23 13:27:44 UTC

it just says

2018-03-23 13:27:47 UTC

well during that month it is ("month")

2018-03-23 13:27:49 UTC

It's just behaviour

2018-03-23 13:27:57 UTC

pretty much ye

2018-03-23 13:29:06 UTC

turbo you do realize how smallest things make up your identity = what can be tracked

2018-03-23 13:29:29 UTC

from walking speed to head turn rate to length of the step etc

2018-03-23 13:29:45 UTC

(i dont believe they follow data that closely at @Goz3rr s place

2018-03-23 13:29:48 UTC

Yes

2018-03-23 13:30:04 UTC

but its literaly what makes your identity when we are speaking of tracking people around

2018-03-23 13:30:25 UTC

yeah we dont track all that

2018-03-23 13:30:28 UTC

all its needs is one partial mugshot to connect you to "you"

2018-03-23 13:30:29 UTC

just general areas of a store you're in

2018-03-23 13:30:35 UTC

But as long as there are no profiles and mugshots ?

2018-03-23 13:30:57 UTC

in those cases sure its not easily identifiable

2018-03-23 13:31:12 UTC

Sounds like something a good manager would do himself as well. Just not automated

2018-03-23 13:31:51 UTC

yes but that good manager could not be in 10 shops where you visit within that month

2018-03-23 13:32:50 UTC

thats 70 square meters or datapoints just by gps location

2018-03-23 13:33:01 UTC

add all stores inside that area when police have profile

2018-03-23 13:33:13 UTC

add every other company and their datapoint within that area

2018-03-23 13:33:43 UTC

then you happen to be in that 1% demographic who happens to have just similar lifestyle than the subject

2018-03-23 13:33:55 UTC

only thin is that you dont have valid alibi for that day

2018-03-23 13:34:14 UTC

just raw example scenario

2018-03-23 13:34:43 UTC

everything you do in every shop,public place and if you live in city when you leave from your front door

2018-03-23 13:34:53 UTC

is/would be within those datapoints

2018-03-23 13:35:33 UTC

(this is just generalization from the average network view)

2018-03-23 13:36:07 UTC

but yeah thank god we are getting better laws

2018-03-23 13:36:39 UTC

realistically, how plausible is a scenario like this over here @Goz3rr ?

2018-03-23 13:36:43 UTC

and hopefully companies store private data only for the milliseconds it needs to anonymize that data)

2018-03-23 13:37:05 UTC

them getting sweeping warrant over all local shops in X area ?

2018-03-23 13:37:44 UTC

uh, plausible probably

2018-03-23 13:37:44 UTC

So in the new : A high graded from the french army exchanged himself to liberate an hostage

2018-03-23 13:37:55 UTC

dutch police already employs multiple systems that they bought from america

2018-03-23 13:38:02 UTC

or just that if they could give persons movements on their "field of view" withing timerange as long as they can fit the polices profile on their framework

2018-03-23 13:38:20 UTC

some of our bigger cities have the giant microphone arrays

2018-03-23 13:38:21 UTC

And the terrorist killed one more hostage with a single shot in the heard

2018-03-23 13:38:26 UTC

The third one

2018-03-23 13:38:28 UTC

that can play back sound from any specific direction

2018-03-23 13:38:48 UTC

^usualy installed to "detect gunshots"

2018-03-23 13:39:02 UTC

but can really detect anything and isolate anyones voice tru their data

2018-03-23 13:39:12 UTC

something like that yeah

2018-03-23 13:39:26 UTC

some of my family works with them, i only have anecdotal evidence through them

2018-03-23 13:40:06 UTC

i have worked with similar systems big data to validate other peoples findings

2018-03-23 13:40:20 UTC

and depending on the setup they are scary accurate machines

2018-03-23 13:40:33 UTC

specialy the direction algos on them

2018-03-23 13:40:39 UTC

also lmao fun fact, so we have the DSI (Special Interventions) which do anti terrorism and shit mostly

2018-03-23 13:40:47 UTC

they are separate from the regular police obv

2018-03-23 13:40:55 UTC

HQs are spread around the country in regular buildings

2018-03-23 13:41:04 UTC

a few months back one caught on fire

2018-03-23 13:41:10 UTC

and the first press reports coming in

2018-03-23 13:41:13 UTC

were literally

2018-03-23 13:41:23 UTC

_we're watching as bunch of audis and BMWs are rolling up right now_

2018-03-23 13:41:30 UTC

_people are running into the building and coming back out with black bags_

2018-03-23 13:41:36 UTC

:DDDDDD

2018-03-23 13:41:50 UTC

eventually they started also putting these bags in regular marked police cars

2018-03-23 13:42:07 UTC

and the fire dept was informed they probably shouldn't go inside because there was explosives and ammunition in the building

2018-03-23 13:42:17 UTC

wlololol

2018-03-23 13:42:32 UTC

and also, there used to a be a weed farm literally right next door to their building

2018-03-23 13:42:37 UTC

they knew about it, but didnt care

2018-03-23 13:42:40 UTC

i guess when ever the EU requires weapons and ammunition to be informed within civil building core

2018-03-23 13:42:53 UTC

>imagine being that weed farmer dude

2018-03-23 13:42:54 UTC

those street level HQs will be gone

2018-03-23 13:42:54 UTC

watching tv

2018-03-23 13:43:00 UTC

realizing you've been right next door to the police for years

2018-03-23 13:43:20 UTC

they already have them in government buildings mostly

2018-03-23 13:43:22 UTC

i bet he would also have sold to those cops in multiple occasions

2018-03-23 13:43:39 UTC

[retracted]

2018-03-23 13:44:05 UTC

such a cool job though

2018-03-23 13:44:21 UTC

lmao one day some truck came delivering heat lamps

2018-03-23 13:44:26 UTC

and he ringed the wrong doorbell

2018-03-23 13:44:29 UTC

hahaha

2018-03-23 13:44:43 UTC

but like i said, they didnt really care

2018-03-23 13:44:47 UTC

since doing anything would blow their cover

2018-03-23 13:45:17 UTC

@Turbo More like turbocuck

2018-03-23 13:46:22 UTC

i lived once in house what had local SuPos HQ nearby ( 2 streets over or such)

2018-03-23 13:46:33 UTC

sadly their camouflage was kind of shit

2018-03-23 13:46:51 UTC

they had marked parkinglots with the apartment number

2018-03-23 13:46:56 UTC

10 of them....

2018-03-23 13:47:27 UTC

also that door had 4 different locks, reinforced doorframe and door rfid reader outside

2018-03-23 13:47:37 UTC

door is not that easy to spot if its done well

2018-03-23 13:47:53 UTC

but that was probly cheapest option of "make us reinforced door to look at least slightly similar to other doors

2018-03-23 13:49:39 UTC

>then they fucking go and bolt 4 locks on it and reinforced 4part hinges on it

2018-03-23 13:52:36 UTC

@Goz3rr tho probly everyone on that apartment knew what they had going on there

2018-03-23 13:52:54 UTC

traffic like that tends to get noticed by bored people

2018-03-23 14:00:47 UTC

Yeah, loads of cameras and expensive cars

2018-03-23 14:00:58 UTC

Most people thought drugs though

2018-03-23 14:04:14 UTC

"The hostage taker was shot. I will speak in a few moments." Gerard Collomb, Ministรจre de l'Intรฉrieur

2018-03-23 14:04:33 UTC

Ah, France. The country of wine, cheese, love and terrorist attacks.

2018-03-23 14:09:02 UTC

Yes the fucker is dead

2018-03-23 14:09:35 UTC

They launched the raid after the fact that the terrorist killed an hostage in the head for no reason

2018-03-23 14:09:57 UTC

@Tervy do you own that pepper grinder you sent or was that just a meme

2018-03-23 14:10:03 UTC

because im thinking of getting it for real

2018-03-23 14:10:18 UTC

i dont own it but chinkshitfriendo has one

2018-03-23 14:10:37 UTC

its + side is portability as spice grinder

2018-03-23 14:11:11 UTC

due it has the compartment for the ground stuff (coffee) it does not spread the spices all over your bag when you carry it

2018-03-23 14:11:23 UTC

neat

2018-03-23 14:11:27 UTC

and handle is quite easy to remove once you switch the nut on it

2018-03-23 14:11:44 UTC

I need it mostly for coffee, black pepper or sugar

2018-03-23 14:11:51 UTC

but ty I will order it

2018-03-23 14:11:58 UTC

but other than (about 5-10 minutes of interest) no real experience

2018-03-23 14:38:41 UTC

oh god americunts

2018-03-23 14:39:00 UTC

first i thought "well it must be just some complete idiot state >tennesee hey who cares<"

2018-03-23 14:39:21 UTC

then i gave closer look to the wall of text

2018-03-23 14:39:33 UTC

and i was suprised that many other idiot states have that as forced

2018-03-23 14:40:11 UTC

all in this year

2018-03-23 14:40:13 UTC

holy fuck what

2018-03-23 14:43:12 UTC

>if we remove god we remove hope
<:thvnk:332928260004642827>

2018-03-23 14:43:33 UTC

more like if we remove gods we are finaly free and in peace

2018-03-23 14:43:38 UTC

lol bergers

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