As usual, Zionists use unclear verses and create an entire false doctrine

@el pebble what denomination are you

im a catholic

Catholic Zionist?

i'm not a zionist

...

the state of israel is false

Oh, you're a universalist?

I'm Catholic, not Roman Cath. though

not a universalist

@Nio Pomilia a zionist doesnt have to come from israel

You believe that people can be unbelievers and go to heaven though

@chadmin, I know

its just a person who is pro-israeli and advocates for it

By virtue of the mercy God extends to the forebears and the roots of the fig tree

I understand what it is, very well

TY though

which is the house of David

tovarisch, do you pray to saints?

or "ask them to pray" for you?

@el pebble I have a fig tree outside

i ask for them to intercede on my behalf yes

thanks for reminding me to cut it down

yerunda

ridiculous

nowhere in the Holy Bible: "praying to saints"

i dont pray to saints

you believe that humans are omnipresent

yes, you do

I ask for them to pray for me

LLOL

Not in the Bible

it's validity is in the bible

It's in the fake apocryphal texts

praying to saints is unholy and paganism

no it's in the canon

netu

false

I will show you the validity of it

you cant just pray to a person

you'll take Revelation out of context

thats "close to god"

no its not revelation based

@chadmin, right. Thats called necromancy

there is one revelation based verse i am thinking

hold on

I know the verse

It's way altered in the minds of RCs

i am going to write a little piece

@Nio Pomilia praying to saints is not witchcraft

It's necromancy

Praying to the dead

Punishable by death

Ah i was thinking about the otehr meaning

Ohh, okay. What's that?

Black magic or witchcraft

necromancy

Oh, I see. That's separate, in the Bible

It says that those who practice witchcraft are to be put to death also

Leviticus

Praying that the dead makes it to the gates of heaven is acceptable

Not sure

I just leave that up to God

Because it doesn't give that person faith, to pray for them after they died

That's a Roman Catholic (RC) practice

It's in Tobit, I believe

Wait, no

2 Macabees

chapter 22, i think

forgot

Those are their fake books that they wrote

communication with the dead is not always praying to them

I don't believe that we can communicate to the dead

I believe that we can perceive, as though we are

But I believe that they are actually demons

people who die?

Why such thoughts.

Huh?

Sorry, be more specific, pls

"But I believe that they are actually demons"

The beings that are communicated with, which are only perceived to be dead people

They aren't communicating with dead people; they're communicating with demons

Dead people aren't omnipresent

I believe muslims are more sensible than jews

would you agree?

Absolutely

I know the teachings of Judaism

They are wicked

Sooo wicked

The public would be shocked

yeah jews preform necromancy

They do

Beyond that too

witchcraft

Yep

Pedophilia is permitted also

disgusting

Yep

With boys, under 3 years and 1 day, age

It is permitted

According to the Talmud

The primary text of Judaism

no wonder why allah turned his back away from the jews

wicked religion

Eh, well, I don't believe all that. But Muhammad did hate jews

Right

The truth is that this entire world and its foreign affairs: run by Judaism

Everything operates, in accordance with jewish prophecies

It's scary

wow allowing sexual acts with boys as young as a day old

Yep

Because, "they aren't considered men yet"

They tried to find a loophole in Leviticus

Thats a sin

Same with the RC priests

Yep

Homosexuality of any kind = sin

[Leviticus 20:13]

Thats what i was about to say

the verse?

no

the general fact that being homosexual is a sin

ohh, right

yep

oh my lord

In Judaism, it's not considered homosexuality

if under a certain agea

age*(

Messed up

they just thought that a boy wasnt considered a male yet

yep

and a girl, up until an age as well

forgetting the agea

age*

Stop lying about the Talmud

so if we were in israel and a man rapes his infant it wouldnt be a crime?

LOL

I used to believe in the Talmud, you ignorant fool

I wasn't always a Christian

and I still don't believe in it

but you are lying about it

@chadmin, theoretically, yes

IDK about Israel's laws

I'm assuming it's permitted there

since israels majority is jewish

All verses relating to the age of an infant are either, the timeframe in which the girl must be proselytized to the Law before becoming unbecoming of marriage to a priest and the other wherein if a girl is raped her virginity is not lost

you are lying

Every Zionist always tells me the same thing: "you are lying." LOL. You can literally just read the book for yourself. I'm sure it's online somewhere.

they decide to gather all their people into a country so they can defy the law

There are volumes

yes literally read it

36*

and read any footnote about it

@chadmin basically

but more than that too

there's a specific purpose for the jewish state

It's to bring in their "messiah"

I heard of these so called "messiahs" but never understood what they are

let me geuss

their pagan god

A man who will proclaim himself to be God

The jews await this man

This is why they didn't accept Jesus

how the hell would they know?

They believed that he did not fit the prophesies

Because this man will fulfill the prophecies in the Talmud and Zohar

Ancient Kabbalistic prophecies

o wow

I am going to post my piece on intercession

shit well if i existed back then i geuss i could be their messiah

just wear a wig and a beard

Since saints are not God, we do not pray to them but ask for them to intercede on our behalf. As James says, "The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful." (James 5:16) Saints, perfected in heaven are the perfect example of someone to ask to intercede. Now let us splice the point of the dead into several verses here. We are instructed that God is but the God of the living, using the late Israelite patriarchs for example in verses from Matthew 22:31-32. This is enough to posit the dead are just as alive if not more by being perfect in heaven and being filled with righteousness. Another important thing to note is the Transfiguration wherein Jesus talks to an earthly aware Moses and Elijah. Death is clearly not separating those in Heaven from Earth, nor witnessing and being aware of the world as in Hebrews 12:1.
Now onto these so called verses that are misconstrued that are clearly actualized requests for intercessions in Heaven.

[Revelation 5:8]
[Revelation 8:3-5]
[Luke 15:7-10

[Luke 15:7-10]

this idea of "praying to the dead" is a bald faced lie

@el pebble so your catholic right?

I am catholic insofar as holding the Apostolic church as true

so you believe in 3 deities that form god

3 deities?

what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church

this tells me nothing

are you talking about the trinity?

you believe in the trinity

yes

Yes I do believe in the trinity

and it is not 3 deities

It is three persons of one divinity

one indivisible essence

I do not get the concept of the trinity

then look up an explanation

so its a father a child and god?

it's the Holy Spirit, the Son and the Father

what about a daughter

<:HyperLmao:459545665517780993>

no

so your religion beliefs in one master sex?

what do you think happened to my one catholic garde school teahcer then?

a female

is she in hell for being the inferior sex?

what

the Trinity is simply not female

youre being silly

when I ask if a daughter was in the triad you said no

The trinity has more to do with roles than an actual gender of God

So the catholic females are on their path to hell for being the inferior sex?

wonder why Nio went silent after I addressed his silly idea of saint prayer and talmudic reasoning

God has no gender or sex because he created them

@Obungus it is father son god

Yes

God the Father

God the Son

God the Holy Spirit

because we can understand the\ relationship like that

The Son is Jesus

what about daughter mother god?

A father-son relationship is easy to understand

Or spouses child god?

That is not how the relationship functions

Because the Trinity is not that

you are trolling

So females are useless in catholicism

i will have Anon ban you

for being retarded

Ok, this is epic

We don't pray to our Father who is in heaven because He is a man we pray to "Him" because he performs in a fatherly manner

i just want to know why its male and not female

or both

because he acts as our Father

@Obungus god has no specific gender

correct

And he does not fulfill a motherly role

thats correct

so He is not our heavenly Mother

wait

so why is the child called son?

god isnt a child

Because of the type of relationship

the duo

It's not literal

you are asking all these childish questions that make no sense

God is not literally God's son

you are better off learning from sources of education

@Obungus dont entertain his stupidity

he is as bad as @Nio Pomilia

What if he is really curious?