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cant disagree that they present those
would make sense
Even Jews call it anti Semitic <:GWfroggerHyperXD:399972553524903938>
he was obeyful
thats why "Jesus" was the fake prophet to them
*they hated Jesus because he told the truth*
not much has changed
that makes me wonder about what is written in there
Jesus would unironically be labeled an anti-semite by the ADL
@|4d|61|74|74| If you want a starting point, read Romans
I still believe that Orthodox have more clear faith than catholics
I dont believe that any god can be proven
hence fucking religions
catholicism is making whore out of logic to me
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they not only "evolve" however they want
they also try backing up something that cant be backed up
you either believe in something as you put trust in it to be right
or you're just a lying person that follows routine and some order
in other words
I dont trust the pope for example
you can trust the people or some resources
the thing is that people can influence the resources
and the bible itself has been influenced by many
and the peope and his gang are the most significant ones that played the role in doing that
so nobody really knows what the first bible could exactly look like
because cathbol tends to reshape it and the books however they want
so then they plant in everything that they like or dislike
and the vatican has made its fucking faggot codex that clearly states that vatican is right
because the codex says so
and in my personal opinion it means little to nothing
Hey, Itโs free agency ๐
free agency?
I dont find the christianity itself something improper, the same with pure islam
the theoritical foundation seems quite legitimate
the issue is with the human part
and their fucking utter bullshit
so personally I choose not to associate with some faggots
I do not wish to associate with an institution that doesnt help people and acts against the teaching of whom they should represent
Gadoligs on suicide watch
wut
I understand that
Vatican has some shady stuff going on
it isnt just now, it has always had shady stuff
Yeah
I havent heard of orthodox being much controversial for example
they dont seem to seek for power
they never ruled over europe either
cant say the same about the catholic church
they should sit at monasteries and make free stuff for people in need
instead they do what exactly
I also do not understand their concept of priests being unmarried
Iโm unsure about that
From what I heard it isnโt really biblical
Just something they do
to marry?
or not marry?
Priests not to marry
Need to research that ๐
Honestly? It seems awfuly fucked to me to make priests not marry because they naturally want to marry and have a woman
and then they end up fucking kids
what is fucked
and this is more against the bible than having a normal wife that is also cared for
I always wondered
It is a choice I believe
if you take *nice* guys and put them into monasteries, they die and nothing good comes out of it
They want to follow Christโs footsteps
Uhhh
the scum reproduces but those who actually dont seem spoiled die
Matthew 19:12
**Matthew 19:12 - Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)**
```Dust
<12> For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to receive this, let him receive it."```
thats not it really
it more likely tells about rape
Matthew 19:12 ISV
**Matthew 19:12 - International Standard Version (ISV)**
```Dust
<12> because some men are celibate from birth, while some are celibate because they have been made that way by others. Still others are celibate because they have made themselves that way for the sake of the kingdom from heaven. Let anyone accept this who can."```
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that's a big difference
thats another thing that I highly dislike about those books
they arent to be trusted at everything they say
Different translations
one thing is interpreted as three
I cant see a reason for why somebody would not be not in celibate and a priest
yet catholics forbid it
seems weird to me, quite un-biblical huh?
They see it as a service to God, wouldnโt really mind it
I feel as if it would be better if they were allowed to have the sexy time
Too bad catholics are gay ๐
^
I really miss Byzantine
it was such a nice place to the East
something unusual, original
Weโll bring it back when the pope declares another crusade
>pope
who needs the pope
christianity should never have any, thats my opinion
He has the most influence of any church
Would also be a great meme
there is literally one quote being for a pope
and it isnt even that much legitimate
ironically, I never really realized that the new testament called jews such a pests
You learn something new every day <:GWcmeisterPeepoLove:403295311189245952>
lmao
Spread it to any of your religious friends if you have any
I must give it another try I guess
I dont have friends lmao
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Weโll be losers together <:GWcmeisterPeepoLove:403295311189245952>
I must learn some more the next time.
Well, this time, it was interesting. I tried debating some subjects on a similar server (not that much similar, full of leftist scum)
some cath-bol hit me in the face telling me to read vatican's documents
I read the website he provided and it went more or less like
"we, pope, we, pope, want, pope, we, you, pope, we, pope ,we to obey, pope, we, pope ,we"
and the codex more more or less about
"everything in here is right because we're the vatican fagg"
Sounds about right
I seriously dont like them
it isnt even that anybody taught me that
it is just what I observe about them
the same with Jews lol
it's quite pathetic that the pope covers all of those scandals and rellocated pedophiles for example
they should be kicked out, publicly called out and maybe kept safe from violent response
They care more about the churchโs reputation
Need to make that money boyo
yeah thats why they are faggots
literally too
Well. I might consider orthodox faith one day. who knows.
I always approached it differently
Although I canโt be mad at them, I do listen to Gregorian chants on occasion
more like
"understand it and choose it" instead of
"follow it like everyone around"
You have a discerning spirit
following something without understanding or finding it true is worth little to none imo
Dabbing on the RCC
Just have children and pass on your values
No need for a church for that but it still works regardless
And tends to be easier
Well. I can understand the practical function of having something "stored and backed up" in a form of architecture, libraries, books
I cant however understand why to strip people of what they should poses
and make it into a big church ruled by somebody else
they should gather anywhere to ever show off that they can do that
they should follow what they find true
and they COULD gather if they found it something to do at the moment, rational, like what...
an important decision to be made
I actually have no idea how orthodox live
I never met one tbh
Neither have I
Met some online
They tend to have anime pfps
So uhh, I guess they are borderline
oh shit actually
the one I met was baptist
an anime pfp too
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Absolute state of Christianity
@Doctor Anon where does paul call the jews the enmies
Romans 2:9
Romans 2:27
Romans 11:28
Revelation 3:9
**Romans 2:9 - Good News Translation (GNT)**
```Dust
<9> There will be suffering and pain for all those who do what is evil, for the Jews first and also for the Gentiles. ```
**Romans 2:27 - Good News Translation (GNT)**
```Dust
<27> And so you Jews will be condemned by the Gentiles because you break the Law, even though you have it written down and are circumcised; but they obey the Law, even though they are not physically circumcised. ```
**Romans 11:28 - Good News Translation (GNT)**
```Dust
<28> Because they reject the Good News, the Jews are God's enemies for the sake of you Gentiles. But because of God's choice, they are his friends because of their ancestors. ```
**Revelation 3:9 - Good News Translation (GNT)**
```Dust
<9> Listen! As for that group that belongs to Satan, those liars who claim that they are Jews but are not, I will make them come and bow down at your feet. They will all know that I love you. ```
*look at this dude*
Romans 11 : 28 ---> **but because of God's choice, they are his friends because of their ancestors. **
Romans 2 : 27 is about the circumcision of no avail, how ordinance without Christ is useless - not calling jews enemies
Romans 11 : 28 actually is in a position where it means the opposite, strangely enough Anon ๐ค if you look at Romans 11:26-29
and Romans 2 : 9 does not echo it either, as it is a contingent phrase for all who do evil, see Romans 2:8-11
**Romans 11:26-29 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<26> And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: <27> For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. <28> As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes. <29> For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. ```
**Romans 2:8-11 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<8> But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, <9> Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; <10> But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: <11> For there is no respect of persons with God. ```
Revelation 3:9 and Revelation 2:9 speak of the false churches in Smyrna and Philadelphia, in Asia Minor
**Revelation 3:9 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<9> Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. ```
**Revelation 2:9 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<9> I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. ```
masquerading as the apostolic church and the true descent of the 'spiritual' jew
while clearly not being such
none of these point to an enemy nature in the jewish people
Romans 11:28
**Romans 11:28 - Good News Translation (GNT)**
```Dust
<28> Because they reject the Good News, the Jews are God's enemies for the sake of you Gentiles. But because of God's choice, they are his friends because of their ancestors. ```
**the Jews are God's enemies for the sake of you Gentiles**
Scroll up, ive already explained the friends part
```But because of God's choice, they are his friends because of their ancestors. ```
Re: Scroll up, ive already explained the friends part
Romans 11:26-29
**Romans 11:26-29 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<26> And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: <27> For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. <28> As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes. <29> For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. ```
All of Israel shall be saved
Modern Israel <:unequal:473954748517842954> Israelite Tribes that existed in the time of Christ
it is specifically talking about Jacob
Israel, the tribes of the Levant who to this day still practice judaism and reject Christ will be saved
There is virtually no trace of the modern tribes of Levant
yes there is
the khazar ashkenazi story doesnt add up and the mizrahi are as ethnic to the land as the canaanites were
Jacob is specifically Israel as the collective jewish people
not the arbitrary state
My mom tried to force me back to christianity
revolt against the oppressor
take her to the guillotine like the scum she is ๐ค
Nah I can't
what are you now then?
mfw I realize that Africa could benefit from white man's technological and social advancement as a demographically suppressed group that would decrease in number of births but develop from a positive influence of a greater civilization
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give_land_back_to_africans.gif
>africa starves
>white man bad.exe
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abbos are retarded sub-humans
I cant understand why australians try to keep them alive
sub-races should just fucking extinct
Their average iq is about what, fucking 70?
how comes they are still alive
@Vilhelmsson wiccan.
How come?
rip, sorry
isnt it how you ask about things/situations sometimes?
But yeah, how come (?) they are alive. I read from time to time that Australia is investing plenty of money in them
why not in fucking poor Europeans?
Why not to invite some poor Georgians, Romanians what-ever to Australia to let them live and build the economy, why to invest in brainlets?
@|4d|61|74|74| because the (((liberals))) believe the near extinction of abbos was unjust
similar IQs attract each other
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But im fucking serious. This is a bloody joke
Take a poor peasant somewhere, the peasant might be skilled, smart, might want to get educated, be useful to the society
instead of givin those 500 dollars in australian currency that would be x10 in the peasant currency, and instead of letting them develop, progress, build something nice in australia
they waste money on trash
this is why I hate socialism
>give them money, because they are retarded
what the fuck is this logic about
basically. Looking at it, right?
Mostly Europeans and Asians seem to be the most intelligent in the world. Why did native Americans not develop guns?
They had all the resources for that. They also could cast iron armor, they could develop better weapons.
They could even build bigger cities with stone walls?
Like, what the fuck. Even fucking sand nibbers could build castles and defend themselves
Their environment was way more demanding and cruel to them than the environment of native americans lol
and then you apply this logic to mexico and start to see some correlations
```When the settlers arrived they found these naked, primative, heathen, illiterate savages on their land. (The facts that in general these tribes had adopted European dress and technology, that some printed their own newspapers, that many were Christian and that they were living on land their tribes had farmed for centuries meant nothing to the settlers.) The settlers banded together as militias and fought the tribes for the land. They often found ready allies in neighboring tribes, who were happy to help attack their hereditary enemies.```
iq over 999
```This pattern went on for about a century. The tribes had a few local successes, but they were never able to really unite, and the US became expert at getting the tribes to weaken themselves by fighting each other. And the more the US expanded into the west, the less land the tribes had.```
lmao
@Vilhelmsson it sounds cool, also, I wanted to get out of christianity for a long time. Pagan/Wiccan doesn't seem as toxic as christianity (in my opinion) gives me more freedom.
hmmm
@๐Luna๐ It's only the corrupt that want to turn sins into rights
@Doctor Anon whatcha saying mate?
@๐Luna๐ What do you look for in "freedom"?
@Doctor Anon as in eating pork, wearing any type of clothing (not sexy ones, but the god who doesn't want others to wear) etc etc.
Where does it say eating pork is prohibited
@๐Luna๐ What sort of clothes
@Doctor Anon i mean, their is a lot in the bible.
Yeah, but not now under te New Covenant
also
wa clothes?
@๐Luna๐ That's old testament you idiots
dressing like a man?
@Doctor Anon idiot*
[Acts 10:14-1-5]
[Acts 10:14-15]
I mean, I dislike the bible, and bible thumpers, Idrc about people who are in it unless they are really fuckin rude.
[Acts 10:14-15]
@Da_Fish get rid of that bot
We have biblebot
its bettwer
Far superior
I killed bible bot
Wtf
Negroid
Erasmus uses custom versions
@Da_Fish thank ya
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