@Jay1532 royals are retarded

Monarchy was nice because there was no sugar coating

if the king was shit you had to kill him

not really

Or have a coup

one of the two

you have a group that has a stake in the future of the country

instead of these turncoats that only care about themselves

A republic where white men only vote is best

No I still agree monarchy is theoretically the better system

And you had to serve a term in the military

Yes doctor but none of those stayed that way

and mandatory military service is in general a bad idea

South Korea does it

if a nation doesn't want to serve in the military just let the nation fall

you have diane feinstein in the pocket of china, and a bunch of others like hillary selling the country to the highest bidder

Mandatory military service is key

USA only gets recruits because of pay

70%+ join purely for pay

stop romanticizing it

give the country to royals and at least they will improve the country for the ego enhancing capability

they have nothing to gain by short term thieving.

@Deleted User instill values of nationalism in schools

unlike democracy where they have everything to gain

Im sure 90% of all military recruits in history were either forced in via conscription or forced in softly via pay

every other opportunity was likely bad

no, a lot of military had huge prestige

Literally only for officers

Enlisted were 90%

Go ask the average enlisted in the navy

yeah, but peasants had a better life even if they werent officers

about this shit

Yeah that's pay

Not because of 'national pride'

Youth should have to serve in the Military at 18 for 2 years

unless you were some retard

who joined after 9/11

to die for israel

well, obviously there must be some social or monetary benefit

thats true for any human action

social/monetary benefit is the core

everything else is made up

I have a friend who just joined the military because he wanted to travel and is being stationed in okinawa

'company culture'

that's an aspect of pay

I know I was just giving an example

He received value

yeah

I was agreeing with you

ah well yeah

I was gonna join the navy for a while

I mean to an extent even honor from serving is a form of "pay"

talked to a lot of navy vets

they're all cynical as fuck

and all told me it's garbage

and the pay is the only good part

i mean, show me an example of human action thats not insanity that has neither social compensation nor monetary

Navy is trash are you retarded

and travel

before we go down this rabbit whole that its even relevant to the topic

I joined the coast guard instead

HAHAHA

that new space force looks pretty fun

same pay nibba

@Griselda space force will be a real thing

I know and it'll be fun

People laughed when they introduced air Force

well

navy sucks because there is less time to be around adoring females

They laughed harder than they laughed now

unlike army

Navy is full of homosexuality

I wasn't being sarcastic I'm all for space force. take my tax dollars uncle sam this is what I want them used on

idk why anyone would join the army

for any reason except maybe cyber

Coast guard pays the same

I don't hate them it's just a very strange decision

see @Griselda i know that was in jest but it still shows an internalization that your opinion matters as far as the governments concerned

thats a false mindset, but a common one

@Deleted User I know plenty of people who joined out of a sense of duty and patriotism

They do exist

Rare in the navy

They are a sizeable minority

and CG

it's not internalized, I beleive it does in America. it's external motherfucker.

I've talked to a few dozen before joining so I'm not BSing

But are actually a fairly large minority

I'm legitimately stating what they said

Navy is cucked

they probably exist more often in Army/AF/Marines

Go look at Marines

whats external? that everyones opinion counts?

can anyone have this delusion?

I have that delusion

Marines have the most nationalists

I joined 90% for money 10% because I had no good options

well 100% because no good options

lmao

well, i mean at least have the self-awareness that time spent thinking about this bullshit is time wasted

I'm considering either legit space force, or army