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2018-08-11 20:12:01 UTC

rather than lose their right to work, reprimand their organization/workspace. solves a lot of problems

2018-08-11 20:29:16 UTC

Problem is, the Legacy Media knowingly publishes false information, then retracts it later after the damage is done. They do it all the time to drum up outrage over the favored cause of the day.

It would be one thing if there were genuine inaccuracies, but generally speaking, the papers and cable news are more than happy to play fast and loose with the facts, then play coy afterwards.

2018-08-11 21:45:34 UTC

of course they should (making emphasis in **KNOWINGLY**)

2018-08-11 21:47:09 UTC

The problem is it'd be either very hard or flat out impossible to prove these people did it with that intention on the spot

2018-08-11 21:49:32 UTC

Yeah, years later after the damage was already done

2018-08-11 21:49:48 UTC

Lets take CNN blatantly lying on the primaries for example reporting estimates that were waaaaaaay off

2018-08-11 21:50:07 UTC

Was it intentional? Was it not? No way to make sure

2018-08-11 21:50:15 UTC

But even with this, it'd be worthy to see this enforced

2018-08-11 21:51:38 UTC

Media should be controlled by the state.

2018-08-11 21:53:04 UTC

If you're willing to take the risk of completely biased and censored news

2018-08-11 21:53:25 UTC

all current news is biased and censored

2018-08-11 21:55:34 UTC

Ofc, private media has the problem of yellow journalism
but with a free market system the more objective news outlets have the chance to thrive while public distrust obviously biased ones

2018-08-11 21:56:29 UTC

the free market is doomed to be dominated by a single group

2018-08-11 22:00:15 UTC

and what it most consumers distrust the group and stop buying their products?

2018-08-11 22:01:51 UTC

that probably wonโ€™t happen, if the real world is anything to go by

2018-08-11 22:02:26 UTC

maybe they will start listening to the same people called something different but that seems to be the extent of it

2018-08-11 22:03:01 UTC

That would be impossible to enforce in a country like America without infringing on the First Amendment. Anyone can engage in the activities of the press. Write a blog, make a YouTube video, hell even tweet live from an event.Becoming a journalist has no legal requirements, or restrictions.

The best response to fake news, and those that create it, is simply to call it out. I archive shitty articles and when I do, I alway put their name on it, and the name of the news outlet. Over time companies and people become tainted by their actions. Think about CNN. That brand has been devastated in the past few years.

If anything should be done legally, maybe make slander and libel laws stronger.

2018-08-11 22:04:08 UTC

the question didnโ€™t say that the answer had to be constitutional

2018-08-11 22:04:57 UTC

Yeah, but then why would you prefer a state-controlled media when this is virtually impossible instead of the latter when there's at least a chance in your hypothesis of an absolute monopoly?

2018-08-11 22:06:41 UTC

I know. @Deleted User I just thought Iโ€™d comment about it in the context of the country I live in.

2018-08-11 22:10:01 UTC

I mean if both are corrupt to the teeth and have control over the field, what makes you pick one over the other?

2018-08-11 22:38:55 UTC

id prefer a state that wasnt corrupt

2018-08-11 22:39:11 UTC

which before anyone says otherwise, is very possible, and has existed

2018-08-11 22:40:35 UTC

but if both are corrupt, it is better for people to choose the state over some malicious interest group exploiting capitalism

2018-08-11 22:41:30 UTC

unfortunately in america both of these options may as well be the same when it comes down to it

2018-08-11 23:12:49 UTC

journalism shouldn't be regulated by the state

2018-08-11 23:16:43 UTC
2018-08-11 23:16:53 UTC

can't rn

2018-08-11 23:16:56 UTC

gay

2018-08-11 23:17:04 UTC

u can listen to it after its done

2018-08-12 01:50:29 UTC

@Deleted User Losing theyโ€™re rights is far too much, maybe defamation or slander charges youth

2018-08-12 07:33:29 UTC

I don't really have much to add to this qotd, other then news should be kept as a private business, and the only recourse that should come from fake news is the public not believing you. if the public won't take the time to check your shitty stories then they deserve to be lied to

2018-08-12 16:26:10 UTC

what about when news organizations become large corporations? should they still be privately run then? i'd think some kind of democratically influenced government regulation would be preferable in that case

2018-08-12 18:04:29 UTC

I think especially then, I don't want the government involved in the people that are supposed to be talking about them

2018-08-12 18:13:59 UTC

i'd be supportive of some kind of unionized media surveillance, alongside some law that penalizes journalists for spreading false information while there's reasonable basis for determining that it was intentional

2018-08-12 18:16:45 UTC

also some sort of legislation that criminalizes large corporations and government agencies from bribing news groups

2018-08-12 18:18:39 UTC

and by media surveillance i mean activity which monitors the reporting of news groups

2018-08-12 18:20:33 UTC

outside the workplace of a licensed news organization, i think news workers should of course have the usual freedom of speech that other national residents possess

2018-08-12 19:31:50 UTC

yeah I can see that being reasonable

2018-08-12 21:39:33 UTC

@everyone Daily Question ๐Ÿ”–

Should we have universal healthcare? How would it work? How would we fund it?

2018-08-12 21:39:42 UTC

2018-08-12 21:39:48 UTC

No

2018-08-12 21:39:53 UTC

yes

2018-08-12 21:39:54 UTC

Can't work with fatties

2018-08-12 21:40:01 UTC

In Japan it would work fine

2018-08-12 21:40:03 UTC

Hmmmm, no

2018-08-12 21:40:07 UTC

Whites are degenerate

2018-08-12 21:40:12 UTC

so it won't work for us

2018-08-12 21:40:36 UTC

You would need social pressures like Japan where you can lose your job for being too fat (cost of healthcare pushed onto employer)

2018-08-12 21:40:36 UTC

Im actually a nurse yes i work in the field of medicine as a professional

2018-08-12 21:40:48 UTC

So i have extensive knowledge on this topic

2018-08-12 21:40:48 UTC

No

2018-08-12 21:40:53 UTC

It's the ideal place for universal healthcare

2018-08-12 21:41:02 UTC

the amount of money that CEOs of insurance companies make could easily cover universal healthcare

2018-08-12 21:41:07 UTC

I mean that America is physically degenerate you tard

2018-08-12 21:41:10 UTC

especially if you sort out treatment and the health of a nation

2018-08-12 21:41:13 UTC

What would you call America?

2018-08-12 21:41:16 UTC

66% overweight

2018-08-12 21:41:20 UTC

this nation is a fucking joke

2018-08-12 21:41:33 UTC

Im a medical professional

2018-08-12 21:41:54 UTC

I mean here's a better example

2018-08-12 21:41:57 UTC

Denmark could do it

2018-08-12 21:42:06 UTC

Because there aren't FUCKING FATTIES

2018-08-12 21:42:26 UTC

In America we have voting yeah, so if we allow universal healthcare to pass do you think they'll ever allow a restriction on fatties/drug users?

2018-08-12 21:42:34 UTC

Fatties/drug users are over 50% of the population

2018-08-12 21:42:41 UTC

So I'd pay their way

2018-08-12 21:42:43 UTC

fuck that

2018-08-12 21:42:45 UTC

I'm pretty sure these QOTD are asked with idea that if it was an ideal state

2018-08-12 21:43:04 UTC

Don't think so

2018-08-12 21:43:16 UTC

No they asked who was your favorite US president once

2018-08-12 21:43:43 UTC

Unless you think US was ideal at any point in its history

2018-08-12 21:43:53 UTC

Haha

2018-08-12 21:44:06 UTC

All I'm saying is, universal healthcare barely works in Japan/Denmark which are far healthier than the USA

2018-08-12 21:44:09 UTC

My favorite was Grant

2018-08-12 21:44:10 UTC

or really most white countries

2018-08-12 21:44:10 UTC

@Da_Fish NEIN!

2018-08-12 21:44:21 UTC

Whites are physically degenerate

2018-08-12 21:44:26 UTC

Donโ€™t ping me for answers

2018-08-12 21:44:53 UTC

...........

2018-08-12 21:44:56 UTC

Denmark

2018-08-12 21:44:59 UTC

Is white

2018-08-12 21:44:59 UTC

It's also a good reason why the ethnostate would be a fucking joke, most American whites are too lazy to stop being fat let alone establish an ethnostate lmao

2018-08-12 21:45:06 UTC

Sorry to inform you man

2018-08-12 21:45:15 UTC

Denmark is a small sample and isolated

2018-08-12 21:45:29 UTC

UK is also fucking obese so they have a terrible universal healthcare system too

2018-08-12 21:45:33 UTC

Why not just make a universal healthcare system where the people who support it opt in to the taxes, And if you donโ€™t, opt out

2018-08-12 21:45:43 UTC

@Griselda literally not universal healthcare

2018-08-12 21:45:49 UTC

that's a private insurance scheme

2018-08-12 21:45:54 UTC

Weโ€™d need some way to ensure people took better care of themselves.

2018-08-12 21:46:05 UTC
2018-08-12 21:46:27 UTC

Well then thatโ€™s my answer to the question of the day. Private insurance scheme

2018-08-12 21:46:28 UTC

@Deleted User I said Japan did this but got shitposted on. In Japan you can lose your job for being too fat as the company will have to pay huge fees for your health insurance.

2018-08-12 21:46:30 UTC

it's tricky for the government to enforce those programs tho @Deleted User

2018-08-12 21:46:38 UTC

Japan does it fine

2018-08-12 21:46:44 UTC

but you can't start with America or the UK

2018-08-12 21:46:45 UTC

Japan is the most degenerate country on Earth

2018-08-12 21:46:47 UTC

with 66% overweight

2018-08-12 21:46:47 UTC

Both private and public have their advantages and downfalls

2018-08-12 21:46:58 UTC

@Deleted User yah keep worshipping your anglo fatties

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