woah

there is no other argument

however average IQ isn't enough to go this far

An IQ number is nothing.

An IQ number is *something* and it matters

yes there is, and I have already stated the arguments

you just don't like them

ethics matter because that's how you govern actions

however it does not predicate that a human of a different race cannot adopt shared values

redpills are ugly and tough to swallow

@Logicpoints don't forget his assimilation bullshit

What are we arguing about?

race

I'm trying to wake them up

I find using a test my feeble 15 year old mind able to accomplish beyond the average and heightened average as a means to dictate superiority upon one race is utter blasphemy.

You're trying to turn us into racist fascists, by your own admission.

vobeyo, the only part of your argument that is inherent is average IQ across races. Which, yes, is (on average) lower in blacks. And IQ is 80% genetic as far as we know.

Parenting, culture change.

lol "racist fascists"

Do you agree with that?

My statement about your argument

no

it's not the only part of my argument and you know that

I said *inherent* part of your argument

since you're arguing about inherent value in humans

ideas can change

parenting can change

People can change.

the ability to form successful societies/cultures is, I would argue, also inherent

what is the "ability to form successful societies/cultures" made up of?

That is a very high level idea

break it down please

@Ultimus, I mean IQ is correlated and a great predictor of SES, likelihood to be an inventor, HDI, etc. So I mean, if there's differences in IQ we expext differences in what it predicts: which we see.

A study of 350,000 people from all backrounds found that people born of mixed races tended to be taller and have higher iq/cognitive function than people born of one race

since it is seen across history that different groups of humans (races) have different levels of success in creating such cultures

i disagree

you can disagree but that doesn't mean anything

Who's to say black people don't develop a random mutation making them psychically superior to that of Caucasians and oppress them, not even with intelligence but with brute force.

it's still correct

you have no historical evidence tho

they could

Then they exert their views as the superior race.

@shlendie
What was the base population of comparison?

If you think you're stupid, are you stupid?

random mutations are random and won't become part of the dominant race without intense eugenic breeding horizon

so dude if higher genetic diversity makes healthier humans, what's the point of keeping races serparated?

that is too unlikely to even argue

look at the African continent right now

It's unlikely that whites are superior.

the only country there remotely successful is South Africa

and that has whites

who are being killed by the way

I doubt having a country conquered and controlled by whites is a good measure to judge a race.

Africa's problem is Tribalism not Race.

🤔

@shlendie
Genetic diversity =/= superior or hybrid vigar. Look up outbreeding depression.

really?

@Deleted User the study claims to have looked at rural and urban areas but it doesn't say what country, likely the united states

Also the African Image is improving.

For that matter, a continent controlled by whites.

LOL

I doubt you believe the black people actually control that nation.

@Roman Dmowski let's assume 'ability to create an advanced culture' is based upon IQ. Do you think that could be accurate?

well yeah

look at Asians and Whites

ok

@shlendie, but what race are they comparing it to? If say, they're comparing mixed kids to aboriginals, then yes they're going to be taller and higher IQ since aboriginals are both low in those traits as a base population, lol.

successful cultures

it could be correlated

The living standard of the black people in Africa isn't controlled by blacks.

it may not be

Idk

how do you explain the mass of white people with IQ below 100 who have adopted the values of western culture that were invented by great philosophers?

I'm trying to get to the point

that lower IQ people can still adopt a culture, intelligence of their own aside

they're white

So?

race is a good predictor of culture

@Logicpoints, binomial probability and group means is how you explain whites adapting the culture.

No, it is not.

even though people can adopt their own cultures, race largely predicts what culture they adopt

I see white people stealing what blacks like to call, 'their culture' all the time.

@Deleted User in english are you trying to say that people adapt to/adopt the culture that is the majority around them?

You here of the meme, "my culture is not your god damn prom dress"?

We decided that we would be allowed to use whatever culture in whatever way.

Black people have no culture

@Logicpoints, no. Do you want a long or short explanation?

they took white culture and fractured it

Blasphemy.

Both @Deleted User

look at the way they speak english

they butchered the language

@Logicpoints, both? Greedy!

English isn't their culture.

It's what they've been forced to speak.

lol

that's a lefty argument

Ah.

culture can affect behaviour, but if a black man was raised with "western" ideals he would act the same as any other white person
humans adapt, instead of dividing us, seek to bring us all under one ideal and set of morals

I mean if you want to look at the situation of African countries as proof of black inferiority, you're missing something
You have to look at the legacy of what Europeans have done to Africans. During the slave trade, they encouraged Africans to go to war with each other to get prisoners. Europeans wanted to buy the best Africans to work their farms, so they took millions of Africa's best and most physically superior people out of Africa's gene pool. After, they superimposed borders and created countries completely arbitrary to African tribes, grouping waring tribes together and separating similar tribes. Then, they completely fucked over the land and extracted all resources from African countries. How can you expect them to recover from that? @Roman Dmowski