you guys don't want to argue an opinion bc you don't like it

i do want to argue the opinion

because it's wrong and harmful

Look

reality is tragic, wrong, and harmful. And IQ does change between races. And it unfortunately must be talked about it.

However, it does not change the value of humans whatsoever.

> egypt
not entirely black

And people of lower IQ can contribute and be stable

> mali

shithole

wut

have you ever studied african history?

even for like 10 minutes

you're just wrong

ooga booga

on mali anyways

there

african history

that's pretty blatant racism

dude look at how mali is doing rn

their hdi is so fucking low

empires don't have to last until the present to be successful

@Roman Dmowski how much factor do you think the 'brain drain' has on modern africa?

e.g., all smart people can get out and go to a better place

so they never fix their own

one of the poorest countries in the world

cycle of poverty

lol

This video is an explanation of it in a few minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

Vobeyo do you have an opinion on the 'brain drain' point?

Those who are very smart and skilled in Africa don't stay because they can get to the west and the west lets them in

because we like to let smart people in obviously

well it's a huge reach

how much of a factor do you think it is?

how would the intelligent people gain the resources to be able to leave

let's say IQ is a really big deal and a big reason

not a factor

The 130-150 IQ people in Africa are able to be relatively successful there and gather enough money to leave

@Roman Dmowski us is pretty good about aiding high skilled immigration

and they do, because they can be wayyyyyyyyyy better off

we shouldn't be

tbh

yes, and it's a good point

it's good for the us

no

that skilled immigration is immoral and hurts other countries

it isn't

it is vobeyo

it hurts all

I've worked with several smart indian and asian immigrants who contribute so much value

it's obviously useful

okay

If you can have a top 1% worker in any industry working with you

net benefit or net detriment to you?

that may be true but they are still harming the US

what statistics do you have

they're not white in a country that is supposed to be for whites

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-29/study-american-economy-hampered-by-limits-on-skilled-immigrant-workers

Is it about race or values?

I have the decline of the white majority in the US

both

usa is not supposed to be for whites

race and values tend to be closely intertwined

yes it is

@Roman Dmowski let's say skilled immigrants are 0.01% of immigrants.

well fuck that

In that case, it makes no difference demographically.

it was founded as an ethnostate

Assuming your race argument is correct.

well there's no reason it should be

look he's a racist we can argue "but muh racist"

or we could argue the points

lol

yeah it's just tricky cause for most of my life i've just assumed racism is bad

you don't have to assume, it is correct 😃

the facts are way more interesting

and then i came here

racism is not bad

so vobeyo let's just assume

that's what's so funny

via skilled immigrant visas (easier to get), we immigrate only the top 5% workers from any industry

you've been taught your whole life to reject racsim

and they are 0.0001% of immigrants

racism

is that a net good or bad to US

depends on the country

nations that don't share our values and race = bad

let's say asian, indian, african. the non-whites

bad

even saudi-arabian

bad

Hello.

let's say you bring in the top 5% workers who will contribute 10x the value.

in my industry we call them '10x developers'

still bad

What is the "question of the day"?

what if they help work for some of the companies that help consumers the most?

still bad

and contribute some of the most to US GDP and US economy

bad