and?

Immigrants drag the economy down and take jobs from white people

yes but WHY do they drag the economy down?

immigrants don't drag the economy down

what if they didn't get welfare and tax money

that's not what the evidence says

and they had to contribute, leave, or die

most of the immigrants into this country do not share our values and have no desire to assimilate

just like anyone who lives here

and if the economy grows there's more jobs for everyone

yes but how is the economy going to grow when the market will just be oversaturated with low skilled workers

The only people dragging the economy down are the people who create less dollars in the economy than their life takes away.

it makes the country asa whole less safe

immigrants don't have to be low-skilled

No the people dragging the country down are a) black people and b) the immigrants who were allowed in here bc of muh diversity

oh open borders nvm

I'm not convinced open borders is right

it will never be

but i am pretty convinced that anyone who matches the country's language, values, and works is a positive

"black people" being a problem is due to welfare state.

Look at the timing of the black family being crushed.

no

It's when welfare state came in.

Yes. You should watch some Thomas Sowell from the 70s. He says the same thing.

Right when the black family started to break statistically

black people are a problem bc they are inherently inferior

was right after welfare state came in.

@Roman Dmowski no

they've been given everything they need and they still do not succeed

Yes

"black people are a problem bc they are inherently inferior"
dude, fuck off you utter plonker

lmao

vobeyo please look at the single-parent home statistics

and the timing of them

for black families

"us white people have given the poor inferior black people all the things we think they need"

and see that it coincides almost exactly with the increase of the welfare state

look at crime stats, look at history

you'd be paternalistic but instead you're just racist

we have

looool

shut it down, the goyim know

race doesn't decide shit

we haven't given black people jack shit

human evolution stopped a long time ago

not even equal opportunity

just welfare i guess so that's jack shit but whatever

you give any people all the free shit and it actually *breaks* them

Race decides a lot of things

any people group

calling one race inferior is bullshit

and yes, there is an argument for IQ, genetics, and race realism.

and we have given black people literally everything

wtf are you talking about @Roman Dmowski

But can you please explain why the black family functioned well before the welfare state

that is false

even a generous advantage in hiring procedures

you just want to justify the fact that you are a racist

exactly

where is your evidence that the black family functioned well before the welfare state lol

with some bullshit

statistics vobeyo.

what statistics

black single parent home percentage over time

single parent household percentages went up bc black people are lazy and their culture promotes that

giving a people group extra free shit actually breaks that people group

black people have unequal opportunity

no @Roman Dmowski that's not true

lol black people have more opportunity than whites and they still can't do jackshit

black people do have unequal opportunity and you're still not disproving lp's point

you're a fucking sicko mate,
stop making huge blanket statements about an entire race of humans

you just made a biased claim

um, no?

and used it against fucking statistics

"single parents went up cause welfare look at stats"
"well i think it was cause they're lazy and i'm right cause i say so"

learn how to make an argument

There *is* a separate point about Race and IQ which is true and really sucks. IQ is largely genetic. And racial history is genetic history. Jews and asians for example have the highest aggregate IQs.

Vobeyo is basing his arguments exclusively on this to say 'black people hopeless yo lololol'

well

However.

Those are averages only.

Jews are an outlier

iq is mostly genetic but there are factors that influence it

they are parasites

And you can find sooo many lower IQ people who succeed.

If not succeed, they contribute to society.

malnourished people will tend to have lower iq's i think

IQ alone cannot be the only factor here.

There are outside factors too.

Again, look at historical stats.

you are the literal personification of a self-righteous arse

please kindly fuck off you tit

look at the mere fact that black people have never created a lasting, successful society

lol this is the right cafe @Lucifer get used to it

@Roman Dmowski you're historically incorrect but ok

I for one enjoy the internet, it's the only place people feel free to argue these opinions

and argue them we must

so let's do it

lol

I'm not saying anything self-righteous or historically inaccurate

mali and egypt come to mind