That term makes no sense from a modern standpoint

Liberal could mean Adam Smith or bernie sanders

Personally, I am of the mind that European culture tends to cultivate education and intelligence in their young. So traditional courting values parallel that trend and 'evolve' those traits as these were the key factors in developing advances in technology.

Well do hispanics have this defect in mass?

(refer to voting map)

Seems like junk science to me

True; liberal would make no sense in a scientific context. My definition?

@Da_Fish is right, definitionally its a basket case to pin down

@Deleted User @ManAnimal Do you think that a lower IQ is associated with support of collectivism

I do

It is evolution like

think about it

In the modern world money is what you need

to survive

those who have a lower IQ will not get as much money

My definition would be a person that tends to rely on their feelings for guidance rather than logical reasoning.

So they demand the high IQ give them money

Yes, but that doesnt mean higher IQ's dont experience the emotion of tribalism having an in group by race, they just "convince"themselves it doesnt matter

using numbers and pure strength

I think that IQ is either optimized by a society or it is not.

It still matters to high IQ, they should be MORE collectivist around identities that are intrinsic (politically) - assuming that is true

What Ive seen is people association creativity with less structured societies

"Liberal gene"

True, again 'liberal' is such a cross section of characteristics. BUT so is ANY BEHAVIOUR

First of all

there is no link between homosexuality and genetics

One could (and I argue) that you can have a "less or more structured society" all within a White society this is not an argument against the ethnostate

If gay parents have gay kids much more it's because of enviorment

the ethnostate doesnt apriori assume a govt "strictness"

perhaps it would seem that way from the outside WANTING to get in

Personally I think the whole USA should look like NH

Well, I would be concise and say that SO far, there is no DEFINITIVE link between homosexuality and genetics

95% white and Libertarian

a priori

Not that it is impossible; we can never know for certain

well, even if people were "born that way", its not the say it isnt still a pathology and non-normal behavior ...and bad for society

so.

There is no Gay Gene

Well, it almost doesnt matter....is my point

the point is gay behaviors are bad for society

'Normal' is relative. Right now women with blue hair is 'normal'

No, they arent.

maybe for 14 year olds. I dont know. lol

Fashion isnt what were talking about

mating behavior is important.

Ok @Deleted User bullwhip, i will accept that with one caveat

not what color shirt you wear

Though of course it should be a blackshirt

It is critical to seperate conclusions of judgement based on experience from cobclusions of reason made with substatiated facts

Bad for society is a judgement

so

That's not colorized

that is photoshop

ok

@ManAnimal I would say leftism is associated with a lower IQ

because collectivism gets them what they need to survive

Well you could argue that egalitarianism necessarily puts high status on the lowest peon

its irrational

If reason is thiking things through and judgement is trusting one's gut, then i would accept 'liberal = lower iq" as axiomatic

Liberal's are generally more compassionate and more perceptive. Sometimes these are good qualities. Sometimes they are not.

A liberal's defense is hatred.

A conservative's defense is apathy

Liberals are general feminine in terms if how they process stimulus

Conservatives are generally masculine with regards to how they process stimulus

All things being equal, a libtard will follow their heart off a cliff despite evidence

All things being equal, a conservative will simply give up if the evidence overwhelmingly suggests that a problem has no solution.

Having the 'faith' to keep fighting regardardless of how dire the situation seems is key to survival as is having the SENSE to proceed logically and with caution

Lower end of the bell curve needs more help to exist in modern society

Lower end? A bell curve has two ends

'More dumbells and more nobels'

Describes the physical vs intellectual optimization and trade-offs

Only 24hrs in a days; all things being equal, optimization of one criteria comes at the cost of some other criteria

The iq argument is a proxy for a values discussion... Attempting to avoid it

Having said that... Whites don't need other populations.

Regardless of IQ.... But considering IQ the amount of people below 85 IQ matters to correctly functioning democracy

Having said that... Whites don't need other populations.

Democracy is a Western construct; so that is expected

Expecting ANY population to readily and willing adjust the construct of another will always have suboptimal results

I total agree about IQ being a proxy for a values discussion

I am just not convinced those values cannot be applied to the majority of himan beings give the same boundary conditions/contrasts are present.

collectivism is not inherently leftist

@ManAnimal You don't understand the difference between liberalism and conservatism

They're not mutually exclusive

That's *progressivism* and conservatism, liberalism is nothing to do with it

Let me guess, an all black neighborhood?
https://www.fastcompany.com/90207375/the-worlds-first-high-tech-eco-village-will-reinvent-suburbs

Liberalism is, while accepting that personal freedom is very important, believing that the liberation of people as a whole should be put above in some cases

Right Liberal world order is separate in the poli-sci sense from what people popularly refer to as Liberal

or Libtard

Progressivism is the one that's opposite to conservatism

I'm a conservative, but I'm also a liberal

Yes but you were talking rather intellectually about the term liberal in a *serious* discussion

@Deleted User

Dont tell me what i understand; i wasnt talking about either of THOSE conceots; i was talking about a colloquiallism

Stop being a hyper-literal autist

Also, i even contexted 'means TO ME'

I will tell you what you understand if you don't understand something. You were talking about both of them, clearly, 'Liberal's are generally more compassionate and more perceptive. Sometimes these are good qualities. Sometimes they are not.
A liberal's defense is hatred.
A conservative's defense is apathy
Liberals are general feminine in terms if how they process stimulus
Conservatives are generally masculine with regards to how they process stimulus
All things being equal, a libtard will follow their heart off a cliff despite evidence
All things being equal, a conservative will simply give up if the evidence overwhelmingly suggests that a problem has no solution.'

This is clearly you treating them as opposite ends of the field

Don't be spiteful please as well