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2018-06-21 07:51:23 UTC

No, it really isn't.

2018-06-21 07:51:25 UTC

but now theyre asian aswell

2018-06-21 07:51:29 UTC

No.

2018-06-21 07:51:38 UTC

Is russia in the asian continent?

2018-06-21 07:52:04 UTC

The vast majority of the Russian economy, population, and resources are west of the Urals. It has a European heritage and cultural. To call it "Asian" on the basis of geography is a bit silly in context.

2018-06-21 07:52:33 UTC

Russia is asian

2018-06-21 07:52:35 UTC

and european

2018-06-21 07:52:38 UTC

its not just european mate...

2018-06-21 07:53:00 UTC

I don't think a single person considers it "Asian" on any grounds but geographic.

2018-06-21 07:53:13 UTC

Excepting the three Siberians that live east of the Urals.

2018-06-21 07:53:38 UTC

Its considered most popularly

2018-06-21 07:53:40 UTC

as eurasian

2018-06-21 07:53:42 UTC

not european

2018-06-21 07:54:15 UTC

Unimportant semantics. The Russian alliance with China is pragmatic, and it always has been.

2018-06-21 07:54:30 UTC

I dont like people like you

2018-06-21 07:54:33 UTC

that change the topic

2018-06-21 07:54:35 UTC

See: The Sino-Soviet Split. To say they have a "close" alliance would imply there's some amity.

2018-06-21 07:54:38 UTC

and say its unimportant

2018-06-21 07:54:40 UTC

when theyre wrong

2018-06-21 07:54:46 UTC

I'm getting back on topic instead of focusing on semantics.

2018-06-21 07:54:55 UTC

For the purpose of placating you let's say it's an Asian country and move on.

2018-06-21 07:55:00 UTC

Happy?

2018-06-21 07:55:15 UTC

*Why did I even continue this conversation*

2018-06-21 07:55:27 UTC

Mao and Hoxha were buddy buddy because Hoxha was in the USSR's backyard.

2018-06-21 07:55:37 UTC

@Rex Colt I see what you mean by this server being neo nazis largely

2018-06-21 07:55:41 UTC

And Mao and Stalin were buddy buddy because they both hated America.

2018-06-21 07:55:50 UTC

I'm not a neo-Nazi??? 🤔

2018-06-21 07:55:56 UTC

You believe

2018-06-21 07:55:57 UTC

Not even a regular Nazi.

2018-06-21 07:55:58 UTC

fascism

2018-06-21 07:56:00 UTC

was good

2018-06-21 07:56:14 UTC

And that makes me a neo-Nazi?

2018-06-21 07:56:21 UTC

Most fascists that aren't Nazis hate Nazism.

2018-06-21 07:57:04 UTC

Well heres the thing

2018-06-21 07:57:05 UTC

Neo-Nazis are just racially materialist reactionaries that want to kill blacks. I think calling them "fascist" is a bit generous.

2018-06-21 07:57:08 UTC

italian fascism was a joke

2018-06-21 07:57:20 UTC

and nazis are the only other actual fascist nation to exist

2018-06-21 07:57:24 UTC

so...

2018-06-21 07:57:35 UTC

Is that so?

2018-06-21 07:57:50 UTC

all the other "facist nations"

2018-06-21 07:58:02 UTC

werent impactful in any way

2018-06-21 07:58:08 UTC

Let's ignore Salgado and Vargas, Salazar, de Rivera who unfortunately was sidestepped by Franco who was not a fascist, and some people even make the argument that Singapore's PAP is neo-fascist.

2018-06-21 07:59:13 UTC

fascism is tbh temporary if it did work

2018-06-21 07:59:41 UTC

because a majority of it is based around war and expansion

2018-06-21 07:59:45 UTC

Why is Italian fascism as an ideology a joke by the way?

2018-06-21 07:59:46 UTC

which cant last forever

2018-06-21 07:59:53 UTC

Italy was a weak country.

2018-06-21 08:00:08 UTC

mussolini contributed little to the war

2018-06-21 08:00:08 UTC

Italy was always weak.

2018-06-21 08:00:21 UTC

Alright, so I ask again: how is Italian fascism as an ideology a joke?

2018-06-21 08:01:02 UTC

as an idealogy, mussolini said he was socialist, and then after getting voted to office, declared italy as fascist (which was technically socialist) only to get kicked out of office and murdered

2018-06-21 08:01:39 UTC

Mussolini was a socialist before he was a fascist, and the Italian fascists had plenty of syndicalists like Rossoni.

2018-06-21 08:01:46 UTC

He was an admirer of Georges Sorel.

2018-06-21 08:02:24 UTC

There's a lot of blending between socialism and fascism. Yellow socialism is seen as a precursor to fascism as much as "neo-Marxist" thought of the early 1900's.

2018-06-21 08:03:00 UTC

Don't see how that changes anything though. A lot of the ideological groundwork was laid by Gentile and Rocco, not Mussolini, who mostly borrowed all of his 'original' ideas from Sorel anyways.

2018-06-21 08:04:16 UTC

...

2018-06-21 08:04:32 UTC

and this supports fascist italy not being a joke how?

2018-06-21 08:05:30 UTC

Hold on now, when did I ever say fascist Italy? I specifically said both times ideology. I was quite clear in my wording, and pointed out when you tried to lead it in that direction like I knew you would in the hopes you would figure that out.

2018-06-21 08:05:45 UTC

English Please Mate

2018-06-21 08:06:13 UTC

Don't think a single word there is more than four syllables. I think you can decipher it.

2018-06-21 08:06:17 UTC

Ok tell me this, Which was better Fascism or communism

2018-06-21 08:06:23 UTC

Fascism easily.

2018-06-21 08:06:26 UTC

No

2018-06-21 08:06:33 UTC

Which one lasted more than 2 decades?

2018-06-21 08:06:46 UTC

which one contributed to society something at least?

2018-06-21 08:07:02 UTC

Would you rather have two decades of prosperity or seven decades of a slow death?

2018-06-21 08:07:08 UTC

I know which one I pick.

2018-06-21 08:07:14 UTC

Seven decades?

2018-06-21 08:07:35 UTC

You know the soviet union does not define communism

2018-06-21 08:07:39 UTC

China still exists

2018-06-21 08:07:48 UTC

so does singapore

2018-06-21 08:07:49 UTC

***MADLAD THINKS CHINA IS COMMUNIST***

2018-06-21 08:07:56 UTC

Singapore is communist now too???!!1/1?!

2018-06-21 08:07:56 UTC

China is communist

2018-06-21 08:07:57 UTC

omg lad

2018-06-21 08:08:05 UTC

Are you retarded?

2018-06-21 08:08:11 UTC

Singapore's government is far-right you fucking moron.

2018-06-21 08:08:31 UTC

And China's ruling government is 'communist' by they haven't been faithful to Marxism since Deng Xiaoping in the 80's.

2018-06-21 08:08:42 UTC

They've liberalized their economy and they have a capitalist mode of production.

2018-06-21 08:09:20 UTC

Whatever you want to say

2018-06-21 08:09:35 UTC

I really am not in the mood at 4 am

2018-06-21 08:09:40 UTC

If you try to say China is communist to a communist they will laugh in your fucking face.

2018-06-21 08:09:47 UTC

They re communist

2018-06-21 08:09:51 UTC

How?

2018-06-21 08:09:53 UTC

it is generally accepted

2018-06-21 08:09:55 UTC

they are communist

2018-06-21 08:10:12 UTC

google it if its that hard for you to understand

2018-06-21 08:10:21 UTC

No, it is generally accepted that their ruling government subscribes to communist ideology as a way to legitimize their monopoly on government power via the legacy of Mao, which their entire state is built upon.

2018-06-21 08:11:18 UTC

They are communist, End of discussion, its common sense, I need to sleep now

2018-06-21 08:11:23 UTC

Nobody seriously considers China a communist state. They've liberalized their economy and transitioned to what is basically neoliberalism. Same as Vietnam, and Cuba has even taken tentative steps toward it in the past ten years.

2018-06-21 08:11:35 UTC

You're a fucking moron dude. Go to sleep, I think you need it.

2018-06-21 08:11:46 UTC

You think fascism was good

2018-06-21 08:11:52 UTC

I'm not the moron

2018-06-21 08:11:57 UTC

wow u got me dude xd

2018-06-21 08:12:05 UTC

You think Singapore. Is communist.

2018-06-21 08:12:06 UTC

It is actual common sense

2018-06-21 08:12:11 UTC

When their ruling party since independence has been far-right.

2018-06-21 08:12:16 UTC

Come on.

2018-06-21 08:12:20 UTC

that something that managed to kill 60-80 million in a few years

2018-06-21 08:12:21 UTC

is bad

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