Message from @L0GAN

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2018-06-21 07:58:02 UTC  

werent impactful in any way

2018-06-21 07:58:08 UTC  

Let's ignore Salgado and Vargas, Salazar, de Rivera who unfortunately was sidestepped by Franco who was not a fascist, and some people even make the argument that Singapore's PAP is neo-fascist.

2018-06-21 07:59:13 UTC  

fascism is tbh temporary if it did work

2018-06-21 07:59:41 UTC  

because a majority of it is based around war and expansion

2018-06-21 07:59:45 UTC  

Why is Italian fascism as an ideology a joke by the way?

2018-06-21 07:59:46 UTC  

which cant last forever

2018-06-21 07:59:53 UTC  

Italy was a weak country.

2018-06-21 08:00:08 UTC  

mussolini contributed little to the war

2018-06-21 08:00:08 UTC  

Italy was always weak.

2018-06-21 08:00:21 UTC  

Alright, so I ask again: how is Italian fascism as an ideology a joke?

2018-06-21 08:01:02 UTC  

as an idealogy, mussolini said he was socialist, and then after getting voted to office, declared italy as fascist (which was technically socialist) only to get kicked out of office and murdered

2018-06-21 08:01:39 UTC  

Mussolini was a socialist before he was a fascist, and the Italian fascists had plenty of syndicalists like Rossoni.

2018-06-21 08:01:46 UTC  

He was an admirer of Georges Sorel.

2018-06-21 08:02:24 UTC  

There's a lot of blending between socialism and fascism. Yellow socialism is seen as a precursor to fascism as much as "neo-Marxist" thought of the early 1900's.

2018-06-21 08:03:00 UTC  

Don't see how that changes anything though. A lot of the ideological groundwork was laid by Gentile and Rocco, not Mussolini, who mostly borrowed all of his 'original' ideas from Sorel anyways.

2018-06-21 08:04:16 UTC  

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2018-06-21 08:04:32 UTC  

and this supports fascist italy not being a joke how?

2018-06-21 08:05:30 UTC  

Hold on now, when did I ever say fascist Italy? I specifically said both times ideology. I was quite clear in my wording, and pointed out when you tried to lead it in that direction like I knew you would in the hopes you would figure that out.

2018-06-21 08:05:45 UTC  

English Please Mate

2018-06-21 08:06:13 UTC  

Don't think a single word there is more than four syllables. I think you can decipher it.

2018-06-21 08:06:17 UTC  

Ok tell me this, Which was better Fascism or communism

2018-06-21 08:06:23 UTC  

Fascism easily.

2018-06-21 08:06:26 UTC  

No

2018-06-21 08:06:33 UTC  

Which one lasted more than 2 decades?

2018-06-21 08:06:46 UTC  

which one contributed to society something at least?

2018-06-21 08:07:02 UTC  

Would you rather have two decades of prosperity or seven decades of a slow death?

2018-06-21 08:07:08 UTC  

I know which one I pick.

2018-06-21 08:07:14 UTC  

Seven decades?

2018-06-21 08:07:35 UTC  

You know the soviet union does not define communism

2018-06-21 08:07:39 UTC  

China still exists

2018-06-21 08:07:48 UTC  

so does singapore

2018-06-21 08:07:49 UTC  

***MADLAD THINKS CHINA IS COMMUNIST***

2018-06-21 08:07:56 UTC  

Singapore is communist now too???!!1/1?!

2018-06-21 08:07:56 UTC  

China is communist

2018-06-21 08:07:57 UTC  

omg lad

2018-06-21 08:08:05 UTC  

Are you retarded?

2018-06-21 08:08:11 UTC  

Singapore's government is far-right you fucking moron.

2018-06-21 08:08:31 UTC  

And China's ruling government is 'communist' by they haven't been faithful to Marxism since Deng Xiaoping in the 80's.

2018-06-21 08:08:42 UTC  

They've liberalized their economy and they have a capitalist mode of production.

2018-06-21 08:09:20 UTC  

Whatever you want to say

2018-06-21 08:09:35 UTC  

I really am not in the mood at 4 am