Message from @L0GAN

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2018-06-21 07:54:15 UTC  

Unimportant semantics. The Russian alliance with China is pragmatic, and it always has been.

2018-06-21 07:54:30 UTC  

I dont like people like you

2018-06-21 07:54:33 UTC  

that change the topic

2018-06-21 07:54:35 UTC  

See: The Sino-Soviet Split. To say they have a "close" alliance would imply there's some amity.

2018-06-21 07:54:38 UTC  

and say its unimportant

2018-06-21 07:54:40 UTC  

when theyre wrong

2018-06-21 07:54:46 UTC  

I'm getting back on topic instead of focusing on semantics.

2018-06-21 07:54:55 UTC  

For the purpose of placating you let's say it's an Asian country and move on.

2018-06-21 07:55:00 UTC  

Happy?

2018-06-21 07:55:15 UTC  

*Why did I even continue this conversation*

2018-06-21 07:55:27 UTC  

Mao and Hoxha were buddy buddy because Hoxha was in the USSR's backyard.

2018-06-21 07:55:37 UTC  

@Rex Colt I see what you mean by this server being neo nazis largely

2018-06-21 07:55:41 UTC  

And Mao and Stalin were buddy buddy because they both hated America.

2018-06-21 07:55:50 UTC  

I'm not a neo-Nazi??? 🤔

2018-06-21 07:55:56 UTC  

You believe

2018-06-21 07:55:57 UTC  

Not even a regular Nazi.

2018-06-21 07:55:58 UTC  

fascism

2018-06-21 07:56:00 UTC  

was good

2018-06-21 07:56:14 UTC  

And that makes me a neo-Nazi?

2018-06-21 07:56:21 UTC  

Most fascists that aren't Nazis hate Nazism.

2018-06-21 07:57:04 UTC  

Well heres the thing

2018-06-21 07:57:05 UTC  

Neo-Nazis are just racially materialist reactionaries that want to kill blacks. I think calling them "fascist" is a bit generous.

2018-06-21 07:57:08 UTC  

italian fascism was a joke

2018-06-21 07:57:20 UTC  

and nazis are the only other actual fascist nation to exist

2018-06-21 07:57:24 UTC  

so...

2018-06-21 07:57:35 UTC  

Is that so?

2018-06-21 07:57:50 UTC  

all the other "facist nations"

2018-06-21 07:58:02 UTC  

werent impactful in any way

2018-06-21 07:58:08 UTC  

Let's ignore Salgado and Vargas, Salazar, de Rivera who unfortunately was sidestepped by Franco who was not a fascist, and some people even make the argument that Singapore's PAP is neo-fascist.

2018-06-21 07:59:13 UTC  

fascism is tbh temporary if it did work

2018-06-21 07:59:41 UTC  

because a majority of it is based around war and expansion

2018-06-21 07:59:45 UTC  

Why is Italian fascism as an ideology a joke by the way?

2018-06-21 07:59:46 UTC  

which cant last forever

2018-06-21 07:59:53 UTC  

Italy was a weak country.

2018-06-21 08:00:08 UTC  

mussolini contributed little to the war

2018-06-21 08:00:08 UTC  

Italy was always weak.

2018-06-21 08:00:21 UTC  

Alright, so I ask again: how is Italian fascism as an ideology a joke?

2018-06-21 08:01:02 UTC  

as an idealogy, mussolini said he was socialist, and then after getting voted to office, declared italy as fascist (which was technically socialist) only to get kicked out of office and murdered

2018-06-21 08:01:39 UTC  

Mussolini was a socialist before he was a fascist, and the Italian fascists had plenty of syndicalists like Rossoni.

2018-06-21 08:01:46 UTC  

He was an admirer of Georges Sorel.

2018-06-21 08:02:24 UTC  

There's a lot of blending between socialism and fascism. Yellow socialism is seen as a precursor to fascism as much as "neo-Marxist" thought of the early 1900's.