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I'm pretty pragmatic but also like to think about an ideal government system
god that makes me sound like a leftist nvm
Political persuasions encompassing conservatism, reaction and right wing economics
Since the dawn of civilization, we have been trying to find a successful political ideology, and it has yet to be found.... Pragmatism is the answer.
or it doesnt exist
Social stratification, nationalism, natural law and traditionalism, populism, anti marxism
It's not one thing, it is many
Stay true to your social convictions, but be pragmatic in regards to economics.
@An Craoibhín Aoibhinn When a communist shits on the pancakes of a conservative, is the conservative bound to conserve the shit covered pancakes?
Wow what a great question, really makes you think
No shithead your neocons are not right wing
They comes from the antistalinist left
You should know this
I believe all government systems relying on liberalism or democracy of any sort must have a society comprised of one race to be effective
They are leftists who are religious
The current "Right Wing" is whatever opposes socialism or social democracy (though not always completely). Generally under a conservative banner, it can go from anywhere between libertarianism, classical liberalism, authoritarianism (if you're into that.) and are oft referred to this day as either the new right or the alt-right.
@D.iogenes the problem with that is that we're in a situation where that is now impossible, we have to work with what we've got since we can't ethically remove any of them
ethics are subjective
I'm an adherent to objective morality <:deusvult:317585515505385472>
Morality and Ethos are different
Neoreactionary is the answer. Make privatize poltiical and social ideology, free from gov regulation. People are free to live in which society best suits their interests.
That's not NRx, that's libertarianism
The Problem with the US is that it needs to be made smaller
I would have thought an NRx would consider that degenerate
split into smaller nations
the US is too big to govern
and too "diverse"
Coastal Elite rule the middle states with no politcal influence
Imo a decentralized modified confederacy would work fine without splitting anything
@D.iogenes " Coastal Elite rule the middle states with no politcal influence". That is geopolitics.
Wow you're so smart
the regions with people who dont care about freedom would only be able to fuck themselves up locally, and so everyone else would be unaffected
No one knew what geopolitics was before you said that
I like the idea of a confederacy
I'm only for federalism within a totally homogeneous nation
We have strayed from the Founders' vision for America
It's small, and has very clear boundaries historically
a confederacy would be more true to the founders than what we have now
I like Jeffersonian Agrarianism, pity the Federalists won
I'm still learning NRx. From what I understand, it's anti-democracy yet 100% freedom of association. Libertarianism is not 100% anti-democracy... Govm should be run as businesses, not as a corrupt political establishment.
Being an island makes things easy
Agrarianism doesn't work in a post-industrial society
Ireland is agrarian
Ireland is a strange beast though
"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main." -- John Donne
@An Craoibhín Aoibhinn Geopolitics doesn't care what label you give the economy. Geopolitics change very little over a long time.
Ireland has low population density, barely any foreigners
If it can be done here other countries can do it
America would not be able to become agrarian unless there was some kind of widespread catastrophe
america is another beast entirely
Lower population doesn't matter unless you have foreigners coming in
Because you've subsidised animal like breeding in cities
Cut the money and it will naturally return
Ireland has it pretty well b/c they have very low corporate taxes which means a ton of American companies use it as a corporate safe haven
That's a meme, they don't pay any taxes
The taxes they do pay are bribes
^ Especially pharmaceutical companies
Apple owes us 14 billion
Apple owes China a couple thousand dead people
or 5000 USD
china is going to be a huge problem for the west in the long run, they'll be able to outproduce everything else due to lower safety/ethical regulations
China is about to go through a massive financial crisis with their unhealthy artificial GDP growth
My nigger watches NTD
isn't NTD some chink news on the east coast
idk all i watch is memri tv
I assumed you watched china uncensored
Not many actually know about there
China is going to financially collapse worse than anything we expect in the next Ten years
@An Craoibhín Aoibhinn. China Uncensored used to be great. Really sucks now.
They spend a trillion dollars a year on infrastructure where more than half of it is unused
China needs a war. Too many males.
hence the empty shopping malls and sports stadiums they have everywhere
that and isnt the vast majority of the chinese poor too
China wants parts of siberia. Russia is very suspicious of hina.
resources, resources, resources
The only major wars to be fought in the 21st century between "major" nations are over resources
to be fair though in the 90's everyone thought there was going to be a world water war in the 2000's
Some still believe that
the 2000's already happened
have you guys seen the leftypol server?
Yes. I didn't raid or spam so I'm still there
its a bunch of ancom just circlejerking in their general chat
sounds like aids
Yeah i've heard
Canada is just trying to exploit it for trade
Do you think it will be a viable route in the near future?
I think it will be yes
thanks "global warming"
Russia has massively invested in ice breakers.
Ten years from now, that may be a focal point of war.
Russia just needs to invest in trade infrastructure so they can export their trillions of dollars of raw resources they have
>russia >infrastructure lul
The icebreakers are essentially infrastructure.
Trans-siberian railroad stronk
Someday, there will be a highway from Siberia to Alaska. Its been in the planning stages for 100 years.
Wars got in the way.
yeah that big cold one
Imagine if Russia was never communist
It could have been one of the largest economies in the world
Maybe larger than that of the US
on the flip side it could have stayed as incompetent as before the world wars too
when they got BTFO by japan
Well it would have become some kind of right authoritarian government
Imagine if Stalin wasnt a homicidal maniac. Even communist, russia could have been great.
other than monarchism
"even communist" thats the thing, its always spearheaded by a maniac, because only a maniac would do so. its a catch 22
The thing about Russia is that collectivism and serfdom was so ingrained into their culture that I think Communism was the only thing that could have changed them positively
eh they were and are fucked regardless
thats what happens when a bunch of slavs are in the middle of an icey wasteland
Imagine those serfs under the leadership of a racial monarchy.
there would be no "racial"
Well western Russia is hardly an icy wasteland
at least 4 months of the year
They just can't utilize the warm months well because everything becomes a marsh
why would a racial government be necessary
They have a word for it
its when all the soil becomes mud from the snow
hence wasteland lol
i mean its survivable
it's no sub-sahara
Rasputitsa is the word
Masirovka means camoflauge
The Romanovs were revolted by the serfs. If they had felt a racial kinship, then an ethnic based monarchy would have flouriahed.
rasputin + tits i like it
Rasputitsa (Russian: распу́тица; IPA: [rɐsˈputʲɪtsə]) is a season when travel on unpaved roads becomes difficult, owing to muddy conditions, either from autumnal rains or spring thaw. It also refers to the condition of the roads, during those seasons
imo @Manimalia idpol is a new concept that has no place in big boy government, but i know a lot of people would disagree
so 4 months of the year is habitable
yeah that sounds miserable
spring and autumn are basically winter in Russia
It makes defending Russia easy though
Napoleon and Hitler both were repelled by it
yeah the steppes are the only reason they haven't been destroyed, you just cant get past it
but that's basically all they have, besides oil
It's easier now though
The Monarchy is to this day an ethnically based clan. They just didnt apply those principles to their subjects.
They don't have buffer states
oh yeah but no one is trying to invade them atm, everyone is afraid of war now
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times.
and we are at the impotus of the hard times
yes we are the weak men
everyone of our ancestors was stronger than us now
We are soft.
Life is too good.
There is going to be a second American Revolution
against changing demographics or changing politics
something will happen
honestly i think it's too late for that
We must welcome the destruction of western civilization, and prepare to make something better in its place.
i think it's likely going to be a slow decline
I'm not an accelerationist by any means
just look at europe, no one will fight
but the destruction of western civilization is almost necessary at this point
Germany was infected by the East Germans.
We should have took lessons from the Eastern World
imo we should be laying the ground work for what we want to survive past the west, trump has done nothing but bought us precious time
and how they treat demographics
Sooner or later, a socialist will get into office
a true socialist
maybe, maybe not, all i know is that we are running out of time
i give it untill 2030-40
The big bad USSR is gone
we don't fear it anymore
it was a lesson unlearned
a big bad is easy to fight, a thousand tiny grey areas is unstoppable
I mean a socialist who is an actual self proclaimed socialist'
not an "obama socialist"
Too general a term.
cough *bernie if he wasnt a pansy that cant admit it* cough
Bernie I speculate was a communist at one point
but he watered down his views
to make it digestible
Bernies a jew. Period.
in my estimation a communist in practice is a socialist, not much difference
he is obviously a social marxist
he said white people don't know true poverty
yeah he's a useful idiot for the progressive leviathon
as if minorities are the only poor people
minorities are the only poor people who shoot eachother
Hunger, thirst, and pain are the greatest motivational factors.
tfw they kill people "because they are poor"
Poor is associated with those three.
explain the appalachians (idfk if thats the correct spelling)
Appalachians are some of the most peaceful people in the US
Poverty in the usa is bullshit. Its a state of mind.
It's because blacks and their culture are inherently more violent
There is a reason Indians and Chinese people aren't massacring each other like they are in Africa
gang culture is raping them
and its Genetics and culture
perhaps, imo culture is a bigger influence at least in US but culture has de facto racial lines
Gang violence accounts for 80% of gun deaths
I forget how much it accounts for in total murders
its most of them i know that
@Guan @D.iogenes Can we agree that ethnics are vitally important for a society?
to what extent
Do you mean like
I would say that it is highly context-dependent
Yes it is important
I believe the only way libertarianism can work is a one-race society
or at least a similar iq/behavior mix
I dont care what label you give the society or economy, a homogenous society will flourish.
it always does
and you need a monoculture, multiculturalism is a myth
multiculturalism is just monocultures living separate from each other in the same society
India is multicultural. And its practically a failed state.
India was also a colony though
it has lots of hurdles to jump
homogeneity is a benefit to a flourishing society, not a guarentee. you can have a shitty country with one ethnicity
The English brought law, order, and borders to a confused masss of tribes.
take most african countries, islamic countries, china for example
China is the only strong society of that list.
i dont mean strong, i mean good as in virtuous, fully functioning
If the one ethnicity is shit