and Trump democrats in the rust belt can be influenced to vote against Democrat candidates

Not if the Democrats are moderate Democrats though. Donnelly for instance is probably a more right-wing Democrat. Same with Manchin and Heitkamp

the GOP is going to spend a lot more money this year compared to the special elections last year, and they still managed to win most special elections

the only real victory the Democrats have was in Alabama, and that took a hell of a lot of money along with 24/7 pedo allegations running in the media

I don't understand why Democrats think that just because Alabama nearly went to Jones that somehow this is a referendum against Trump. Jones nearly won against a Pedo

it's good for us,

the Democrats will think they can win anywhere and with anyone

I mean, Jones did win

Moore was the one who 'nearly won'

Barely won***

despite the pedo allegations

My bad

they're going to run radical democrats in places like Texas and waste millions

yeah, that's the thing. Alabama gives them false confidence

do you know about the website predictit?

the comments section is dominated by leftists for some reason

(I'm not sure why they like to gamble...I'd have thought it would have been more right wing because of that)

Actually, the problem with Beto's campaign is that it isn't as funded as much as Ted Cruz's campaign. Many people don't know O Rourke, but a lot of them know Ted Cruz.

https://www.predictit.org/Market/2703/Which-party-will-control-the-Senate-after-2018-midterms

Democrats know very well that Texas is a goner and are not aiding them as much as the Reps are with Cruz

people in the comments section are circlejerking about how the Democrats caan take Texas

be back in a while, I'll have more data when I return

and about how "deep red Alabama turning blue means the other deep red areas can go blue, like Mississippi"

As a leftist, I know it's not true. Ted Cruz isn't as hated by Texas as Roy Moore was in Alabama

I think they're butthurt after a year of constant defeat, so they're clinging desperately to their victory in Alabama in December

what kind of leftist are you btw

I mean, two of the governorships went towards Democrats this year (although they are neoliberal corporatists)

Just a regular progressive

'regular progressive' in 2018 is different from 'regular progressive' in 2013...a lot has changed since then

I'm both fiscally and socially liberal.

fiscal as in Keynesian? or social democrat?

Not a Keynesian.

as long as you aren't pro Warren you may very well be safe here

Didn't Warren vote for like 80 million dollars in aid towards some War?

wouldn't surprise me

also never paid car taxes

ever

and never sent voluntary aid to schools even though she claimed she always had

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/156386110

can someone bump the thread

thanks

Yeah. I think Warren isn't really a progressive. Maybe on some issues but others not so much

But I wouldn't trust the media on whether or not hter will be a blue or red sweep. CNN, Fox, MSMBC are all biased in their own ways

yeah, also it's January

a lot can change between now and November

I would be willing to think there's a Blue Wave if the economy tanks

And most of them dont report on the grassroots campaign (Progressives and Social Democrats from CNN and MSNBC/Austrians and Libertarians from Fox)

if the economy is doing even better, I think the GOP can get a net-gain even in the House

yeah, that's the thing

they're touting it on a national level

with bullshit polls https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html

Polls are retarded, but most people look at the polls and no the candidate's voting history anyways so thats what the media goes for

Democrats having "48.8" to GOP's "36.7" doesn't mean shit because

1. It's national level, not district by district
2. It's fucking January, not November
3. How are they sampled?
4. How do they know who's voting

The only people participating in the polls are likely subscribers or some shit

thye are almost always liberal

But yeah, Indiana looks like its going red definitely, Florida and North Dakota are probably going to go red, and IDK about the rest of the states (in terms of the Senate)

Massachusetts is fucking weird

returned

okay, catch me up to speed

jackborne what part of Mass are you from

the Cape

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 we're just talking about national polls

and how they don't mean anything, especially at this point

generic ballot polls are useless,

most people like their local congressman

until we get polls from specific districts, it won't matter

I'd honestly laugh if Senator Menendez is still in the Senate even after the corruption trial and being faced with al those charges

I really don't see why predictit comments are shilling for the Democrats this hard

because of many reasons

they severely underestimate us because they are over confident

they are uninformed

and msot inportantly

they are scared, maybe even terrified

we need to keep in mind the Democrats are heavily energized this year

their anger has fueled Democratic turnout

anger is blinding

yeah, it's also offputting to independents/moderates

actually almost every dem I know that is "outraged" love Warren because that's pretty much her

a loud "outraged" libtard

Best Senate seat oppurtunities:
1.) Missouri
2.) Indiana
3.) West Virginia
4.) North Dakota
5.) Florida
6.) Minnesota

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 so you said the outcome will be 53-54 in favor of the GOP in the Senate right?

can you show us the map

wait no way oops

why do you think Ohio is going blue

Josh Mandel dropped out

I see, but let's wait to see who takes his place

that is true

a lot can change in the next months folks

btw guys feel free to make a general yourself if there isn't one at any given time

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 IDK about West Virginia. Manchin won by a pretty significant margin last senate election, even though West Virginia is a mostly red state.

we also need to remember that the dems may nominate pseudo liberals to run.

What is a pseudo liberal

Also, are there any more political discord groups I can join

a "fake liberal", pseudo 21st century democrats would be a better term

So a neoliberal?

yes

actually no