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2018-03-26 16:47:05 UTC

Gun policy could be their platform

2018-03-26 16:47:16 UTC

Under normal circumstances,

2018-03-26 16:47:25 UTC

if Democrats ran on gun control,

2018-03-26 16:47:30 UTC

they'd be massacred

2018-03-26 16:47:40 UTC

we'd even see Republicans get net gains

2018-03-26 16:47:43 UTC

however,

2018-03-26 16:47:51 UTC

this isn't a normal environment

2018-03-26 16:48:07 UTC

Trump _OPENLY_ pushes for gun control

2018-03-26 16:48:41 UTC

Republicans aren't as active on gun rights as Democrats are on gun control

2018-03-26 16:48:54 UTC

When the leader of the GOP is not for gun rights,

2018-03-26 16:49:10 UTC

and the GOP Congress doesn't stand up for gun rights,

2018-03-26 16:49:40 UTC

the normal swing of gun owners voting Republican doesn't occur

2018-03-26 16:51:01 UTC

so again, Trump needs to stop trying to appeal to Democrats and Republicans need to speak up

2018-03-26 16:51:05 UTC

But,

2018-03-26 16:51:22 UTC

it's possible neither gun policy or healthcare dominate the midterms,

2018-03-26 16:51:35 UTC

in every election cycle,

2018-03-26 16:51:49 UTC

midterm elections have always been a wave against the party in power,

2018-03-26 16:52:01 UTC

except under two circumstances

2018-03-26 16:52:10 UTC

Bill Clinton's second midterms

2018-03-26 16:52:23 UTC

and George Bush's first midterms

2018-03-26 16:52:41 UTC

there were extraordinary circumstances surrounding these events,

2018-03-26 16:52:48 UTC

9/11

2018-03-26 16:52:55 UTC

and Clinton's impeachment

2018-03-26 16:53:22 UTC

Woah hold on a moment

2018-03-26 16:53:29 UTC

9/11 saw Americans put their political differences aside and rally under Bush

2018-03-26 16:53:41 UTC

it's how Bush won in 2004 despite everything else

2018-03-26 16:54:03 UTC

December of 1998 was the impeachment, wasn't it?

2018-03-26 16:54:18 UTC

Clinton's impeachment caused Democrats to not lose seats because he was actually popular

2018-03-26 16:54:35 UTC

@FLanon and?

2018-03-26 16:55:12 UTC

Wasn't that after the midterms?

2018-03-26 16:56:01 UTC

I wouldn't really know the dynamics since I wasn't really around

2018-03-26 16:56:02 UTC

Republicans were building it up

2018-03-26 16:56:26 UTC

Republicans had been talking about impeaching Clinton since the second the Lewinsky scandal dropped

2018-03-26 16:58:22 UTC

Anyways, I get it, we need something extraordinary to have net gains

2018-03-26 16:58:58 UTC

As much as I hate to say it,

2018-03-26 16:59:10 UTC

Immigration is not an important issue among ALL voters,

2018-03-26 16:59:15 UTC

but it is among Republicans,

2018-03-26 16:59:28 UTC

if Trump wants to maximize his base's turnout

2018-03-26 16:59:36 UTC

he MUST implement the immigration agenda

2018-03-26 16:59:49 UTC

he can forget about Independents,

2018-03-26 16:59:53 UTC

Democrats,

2018-03-26 16:59:58 UTC

it won't matter.

2018-03-26 17:00:05 UTC

I feel that Republicans, especially Trump's base would be especially motivated by a justice move

2018-03-26 17:00:08 UTC

Trump's base is 35% of the population

2018-03-26 17:00:22 UTC

if 100% of them go out and vote,

2018-03-26 17:00:30 UTC

it'll be a Republican victory, EASILY

2018-03-26 17:01:01 UTC

Interesting for that bring up justice,

2018-03-26 17:01:13 UTC

this is actually something I haven't thought about much,

2018-03-26 17:01:26 UTC

because I don't think anything new regarding justice will occur,

2018-03-26 17:01:27 UTC

but,

2018-03-26 17:01:36 UTC

let's suppose,

2018-03-26 17:01:44 UTC

Mueller exonerates Trump,

2018-03-26 17:01:59 UTC

or Hillary is indicted

2018-03-26 17:02:01 UTC

or both,

2018-03-26 17:02:14 UTC

then boom, Red storm 2018

2018-03-26 17:02:16 UTC

Mueller exonerating Trump would do absolutely nothing

2018-03-26 17:02:32 UTC

Hillary indictment would cause red storm

2018-03-26 17:02:38 UTC

But, it's all speculative.

2018-03-26 17:02:50 UTC

Mueller declaring Trump is innocent would depress Democrat turnout

2018-03-26 17:02:58 UTC

as well as shift Independents to Trump

2018-03-26 17:03:08 UTC

I feel it'd be memory-holed.

2018-03-26 17:03:26 UTC

Hillary in handcuffs however is unignorable.

2018-03-26 17:03:48 UTC

Pulitzer shit there.

2018-03-26 17:03:57 UTC

but

2018-03-26 17:04:06 UTC

I'd wager nothing regarding Clinton will happen

2018-03-26 17:04:25 UTC

Trump exoneration is most likely to happen

2018-03-26 17:04:30 UTC

this is true

2018-03-26 17:04:39 UTC

I think timing will matter

2018-03-26 17:04:44 UTC

But that won't do anything in my opinion.

2018-03-26 17:04:54 UTC

if Trump is exonerated in October

2018-03-26 17:04:56 UTC

he'll win

2018-03-26 17:05:12 UTC

but if Trump is exonerated today,

2018-03-26 17:05:13 UTC

meh

2018-03-26 17:05:17 UTC

won't matter

2018-03-26 17:05:17 UTC

I can't believe it's possible to be more blackpilled than you on anything

2018-03-26 17:05:40 UTC

TRUST me on this

2018-03-26 17:05:45 UTC

I don't think a Mueller exoneration would have any effect, only Fox would report on it

2018-03-26 17:05:55 UTC

A HUGE bulk of the population thinks Trump is dirty

2018-03-26 17:06:45 UTC

Being confirmed this is not the case will be the death of the narrative slumping Trump in the polls

2018-03-26 17:07:03 UTC

I don't know...

2018-03-26 17:07:12 UTC

CUCK

2018-03-26 17:07:16 UTC

I AM THE POLL KING

2018-03-26 17:07:17 UTC

I'll take your word on it though

2018-03-26 17:07:37 UTC

MY POLLS DONT LIE AHAHA

2018-03-26 17:07:49 UTC

Also

2018-03-26 17:07:54 UTC

public image matters

2018-03-26 17:08:01 UTC

this might seem small,

2018-03-26 17:08:06 UTC

but Trump,

2018-03-26 17:08:10 UTC

for the love of GOD,

2018-03-26 17:08:19 UTC

stop golfing

2018-03-26 17:08:47 UTC

it makes you look like a rich douche

2018-03-26 17:09:07 UTC

I mean, ya kinda are,

2018-03-26 17:09:26 UTC

but voters elected you because they thought you were in touch with them

2018-03-26 17:09:49 UTC

Why can't Trump travel to the Midwest or the South more often?

2018-03-26 17:09:51 UTC

Yeah. People say that Trump golfs because it's where intelligence agencies can't hear his every word but it is destructive for public image

2018-03-26 17:10:03 UTC

Especially when you consider how much he criticized Obama for it

2018-03-26 17:10:04 UTC

actually go to the small towns that voted for him?

2018-03-26 17:10:12 UTC

Stop at a pit stop diner maybe?

2018-03-26 17:10:30 UTC

He should get a dog

2018-03-26 17:10:37 UTC

It's a tradition

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