Message from @Christmas EveryDay
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i go into jails to minister not to mistreat
you go to jail for having slaves
this is second impressive mental gymnastics ive seen after derek
i share the word of God with inmates who want to know about Jesus
cool
Ironically Christmas Everyday is being the devil's advocate in this situation
thats for that off topic info you already shared
thanks
someone said i mistreat the inmates or something
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i was redefining my position
we are talking about slaves
you know, the topic of the coversation
slaves seems to be the ongoing theme
it is an example we used
of how the bible can be used to support two contradictory sides
its pretty concerning how your reply to "has a verse telling ppl to buy slaves" was "whats bothers u about buying slaves"
if you use eisogesis without exegesis, yes, you can gather a false idea
so people didnt use the bible to support both sides
my bad, i guess ill just go inform all the history books about slavery in the US to change things
sounds the alars =]
alarms
so, you dont see a problem with the bible being used for both sides?
What's esiogesis and exegesis?
your meaning vs intended meaning
eisogesis is like bouncing ideas off verses to gather meaning, exegesis is understanding scripture as it is written and the culture it was written to, and the original meaning
both are important
Both sound flawed
if it can used to justify any position then what makes you think you interpretation of the bible is correct
i believe the way i understand the bible fits exegetically
i will tell you how i feel about things like the authors intended meaning and trying to study that and sticking to it. It doesnt really matter what the author meant to say. All that matters is what people get out of it. If the author did a good enough job then people will get what the author intended. However, everyone is differnt they see things differnt. So if you get something differnt out of it. So what, its your personal views
again, thats a general statement not just aimed at the bible
i believe the bible, as its written, and as the holy spirit leads me
and let it lead you how you think it does, but you cant be surprised when someone differnt from you sees the bible saying much differnt things
As the holy spirit leads you seems like you allow your own baises to lead your reading
again, eisogesis should be in line with exegesis
but it isnt
it wont be
it was written 2000 years ago, people are differnt
people view the world differntly then people 2000 years ago did