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With regard to '...they are available but most don't even know...', that's probably my fault for using a quote with multiple interpretations. To be clear, aside from some flu vaccines, vaccines recommended to children categorically have no thimerosal in them. Even if you assume all children get thimerosal-containing flu vaccines (which is obviously a laughable assumption), the overall exposure would still be such that your favourite correlation still vanishes
As a side note, you should know vaccines are not "injected right into the blood system". I hate to have to point out the irony but if you only have a minimal understanding of something, you shouldn't tell your opponent they don't understand a damn thing. Among other things, It makes you look very silly indeed
Flu vaccine is stupid
these have it in it that they give children and if you didnt know it was never a thing till after thimerosal was put into vaccines @Sloan Jask
never a case diagnosed with autism till after it was being put into vaccines
in fact the oldest of the first 11 diagnosed with it was born the same year it was introduced into the vaccines
they started in 1931 with it and hmmm there was never any so called cases till after its introduction
now if you look at the symptoms of autism they can be attributed to mercury poisoning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKglol4OLE i suggest you watch this documentary on thimerosal. so far all you have done is give mainstreams version of things. like the fda and its link they are funded by the very same ppl as the cdc whom you can not trust on this matter cause they own around 56 patents on vaccines so it is a huge conflict of interest. i got 9 questions for you that has never been answered by anyone pro vaccine
All promoters of vaccination fail to realize that the respiratory tract of humans (actually all mammals) contains antibodies which initiates natural immune responses within the respiratory tract mucosa. Bypassing this mucosal aspect of the immune system by directly injecting viruses into the bloodstream leads to a corruption in the immune system itself. As a result, the pathogenic viruses or bacteria cannot be eliminated by the immune system and remain in the body, where they will further grow and/or mutate as the individual is exposed to ever more antigens and toxins in the environment which continue to assault the immune system
by blood stream they mean muscle tissue which does not get filtered out before entering your system at that point. seems you dont know how things can enter your blood stream without passing thru your kidneys, liver, and respiratory tract
if you bypass those things you are not filtering out anything
Please don't try to misrepresent what I've said now you've realised you lost. Honestly, I'm becoming suspicious that you're just stubbornly trying to use a simply fact of physiology--applicable to everything we eat and drink--to try to scare people. Let me be clear...if you're saying vaccines bypass the liver and kidneys because they reach the blood first, it must follow that everything else we eat, drink, inhale, inject or rub on our skin bypasses the liver and kidneys
As for the graph up there, we have data that goes beyond 200. Funnily enough, by 2001 there was a huge reduction in thimerosal exposure. I wonder why they cose to stop their graph at 2000. You've been misled by 'the media', sir
@Sloan Jask lol how did i lose plz tell me
you have failed to show any data
just your words
To address your fear of bypassing the respiratory mucosa, vaccines are not intended to initiate an innate immune resoonse, they're intended to initiate humoural response which happens in the lymph nodes which is why they're given intramuscularly. 'Corruption in the immune system' isn't a thing
what data would you like
answer any of the 9 question
and thimerosal is ethly mercury
which is more deadly
not less
more deadly than what?
methyl mercury is less dangerous at lower levels lol
hmmmm
I'm familiar with this study actually. It was published in a low impact factor (0.22) predatory journal that accepts 90% of their submissions :/
lol
Anyway I can answer question 1 if you like
and it is now 1 in 80 i think
so it has not went down
you lie
and you fail to address the fact autism is just mercury poisoning
nothing more
and thimerosal is not the only reason to not get the vaccines
Yes you're correct the rate of autism has increased I agree with you on that. Thimerosal exposure has decreased though. Lacking a correlation indicates there's no causation
no it has not
and it is not just thimerosal
you forget the cancers they are injecting you with
lol cdc
hahahahahah
man are you thast blind
this is awkward
not really
hahahaha
not for me certainly
it is called a conflict of interest
maybe you should learn what that is
so yea they can post all the FAKE studies they want
funny how not one vaccine is ever evaluated by anyone but the ones who make it
another conflict of interest
If you're going to admit to assuming everything is fake because of where it comes from, this conversation is over. I can't argue with pure conjecture
lol you cant use someone who has a conflict of interest in the matter either
ass backwards logic is what that is
that is like expecting the doj to investigate its self
Hello
Ok
Uhhh u an anti vaxxer?
MEDICAL HORROR: Genetic sequencing of common vaccine finds entire male human genome from aborted human babyโฆ โa complete individual genomeโ with abnormal, modified genesโฆ 560 genes linked to cancer
I dont speak korean sorry
560 cancer genes, abnormal DNA, genetic โmodificationโ of potentially hazardous genes, yet mandated to be injected into every child
โฆ[T]he contaminant fetal DNA present in all samples analyzed in varying quantities (thus uncontrolled) is up to 300 times higher than the limit imposed by the EMA for carcinogenic DNA (10 ng/dose, corresponding to DNA contained in approximately 1000 tumor cells, derived from a statistical calculation, while the precautionary limit is 10 pg/dose), a limit that must also be applied to MRC-5 fetal DNA which inevitably contaminates Priorix tetra.
Bruh
Can u not just copy paste stuff?
โModificationsโ of genes associated with cancer tumors. This indicates that the MRC-5 aborted human fetal cells appear to have been deliberately modified to make them more tumorigenicโฆ i.e. more likely to cause cancer tumors in human recipients of the vaccine injections.
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In other words, important modifications of genes known to be associated with various tumor forms have been identified, for all the 560 verified genes; furthermore, there are variants whose consequences are not known, but which, however, affects genes involved in the induction of human cancer.
One of the most critical elements which defines the toxicity potential of any vaccine are its pharmacokinetic properties. Drug companies and health agencies refuse to consider the study, analysis or evaluation of the pharmacokinetic properties of any vaccine.
lmao
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Yoyoyo
I just got my kid vaccinated
I'm so happy he'll live a long happy life
keep it up you will find the ice box
trying to get ppl to not look at the information
scumbag tactic
They think politicians and hollowood actors are doctors capable of giving them medical advise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1-LuDt6nYg they always forget about this actor and the fact he does not vaccinate his kids hmmmm
Restricted it
Yeag dr oz
Smarter than the average actor
lol
Vaccines
Are
Good
This dude invented email ^^^
What authority has an IT guy over vaccines? What education has he had about them
*makes a video game company*
I now know knowledge on the cure to all diseases
lol the guy has a phd in biological engineering
seems he might know more than you think
from MIT of all places too
@Abe Lover Be a little more respectful please. Youโve been on here enough to know that @Wretch only posts quality information. ๐ก
good morning @The Gwench hope your day is going well
@Wretch Iโm doing phenomenal. Thank you ๐
And yourself?
@The Gwench doing well getting rdy to head out and run some calls on the books
Oh. Iโve got some time off work and Iโm looking forward to doing more research. ๐
nice you got to love the time you get off so you can do some real research and relax for a change
they keep us so distracted with trying to survive
but that is part of their game
Yes. Iโm looking forward to not following a strict schedule. I very much need the rest and relaxation.
well enjoy it you deserve it
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I have measles OwO
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@Jondar02 He invented email at 14 years old.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai
https://news.mit.edu/2007/east-west-0917
"invented email" when email was already a thing, but aside from that it's clear he can work with computers and make a simulation of a single cell. He has no degree or authority on immunology
exactly with a PhD thesis in the simulation of the human cell
so? not getting your point here
by knowing moderately well how to code and have a lot of time on his hands
yeah the US is really polarised
which is not at all good for a country
so?
@Abe Lover He copyrighted the code. Back then that was the only legal protection for software
Also this is massachusetts and he is not a radical libtard so he has little chance.
โVaxxed2 documentary producers release devastating information about Americaโs hidden vaccine injury epidemic: โA war zoneโ of dead childrenโ. ๐ง
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-10-29-vaxxed2-documentary-producers-hidden-vaccine-injuries.html
@Citizen Z It wasn't small pox. it was another small pox like virus that is used in the small pox vaccine manufacturing process.>
So this is actually going inside people in one form or another.
Weird
to all parents reading this, please vaccinate your children. For the safety of your children. I think you'd rather them being autistic than have some deadly disease that can't be cured.
@Raj from tech support deadly? Give us the comparative mortality rates for vaccinated versus unvaccinated people.
yea go get cancer genes injected into you. you do realize how stupid that is right but you say just do it
we are not nike
so he tells you to vaccinate your kids but he does not vaccinate his hmmmmm
I can explain with a little story of mine
idgaf about your story
No need to be rude.
you obviously dont know the first thing about vaccines
Well, a lot of medication and whatnot are thouroughly tested to see if they are safe or not.
so your being injected with a cancer gene that came from a specific baby no less
You do realise that it is entirely possible you are reading false information.
no i am not reading false info lol
also, in some countries vaccines are mandatory. I believe in France it is mandatory, dare I say it, a good move it.
the cdc is false info
cdc owns 56 patents on vaccines so yea they would push them
it is called a conflict of interest
I have had many vaccines in my life, I am not autistic and I don't have cancer.
not yet you dont lol
watch the video i posted above if your really here to learn
i have been researching vaccines since 2011-2012
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A shocking new gene sequencing investigation has found that MMR vaccines are deliberately engineered to cause cancer as a repeat business model for Big Pharma. ๐ก
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I am straight
@OkieDokie no trolling
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come get your free poisoning on us ๐ . i cant believe ppl fall for this garbage
you dont believe in vaccines?
They cause some of the worst poluters on earth
Adults
I got mine last Wednesday
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No its not. @Jondar02. It was a fact based upon the info you provided
Have any of you guys ever been vaccinated?
@Jondar02 it's not an ad hominem you dunce. It's an insult. I wasn't using it to prove or disprove a proposition.
Of course we were vaccinated. So what? We had not substantial choice. and neither did our parents.
But that was only 6 vaccination types roughly. not 30 or whatever it is now
So it's okay for mods to insult people?
Regardless, I think I'm pretty sane still
The last words of a crazy person
Indio, there arenโt 30 or so vaccines
Well fine, a normal child in the Netherlands would receive like 8 different shots, so nowhere near 30. Because I've got asthma and a heart disease, which both are from birth, I'm invited to willingly receive flu shots for free
Most shots are combinations against a multitude of diseases and some require a follow up shot
^^ idk how it works in the US though
Also, @Citizen Z is it allright for mods to insult people on this server without consequences?
Way more than 30
it is like 52
Not to mention the flu vaccine
he thinks just cause they put them into one shot that does not make up as many but it is a multi dose so not just one vaccination then is it?
Its alchemy
not to mention you are picking up the traits of the persons dna that they used in the first place to make the vaccine and to top it off they are genetically engineering them to be more cancerous
also hiding the true cause of autism and making up the condition to cover up mercury poisoning that was going to happen from the thimerosal in the vaccines
so at lower doses thimerosal is more dangerous than methylmercury that you would get from eating tuna and it goes straight into your system before being filtered(even if it gets filtered out later) causing the damage to your system. also ppl forget it is very hard to detox mercury out of your system. If you are not being told it is in dangerous amount most ppl wont even try to detox afterwards thinking they will process it out when they actually dont get all of it out and those trace amounts build up over time doing significant amount of damage to their system
i suggest you watch the documentary i posted in the pins called trace amounts, or you can scroll up a bit indio007 posted it in the chat
A trivalent vaccine is not three doses of vaccine. Vicodin is not two doses of painkillers, recarbrio is not three doses of antibiotics and stribild is not four doses of antiretrovirals.
I'll pay you the compliment of assuming you're joking when you say you pck up the traits of the persons dna that they used in the first place to make the vaccine but feel free to correct me if you actually do believe this.
I'm not going to address Bernard et al again because you either didn't understand it last time or you chose to ignore it. Either way, it's futile to try again. See if Nelson and Bauman have better luck than me [https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/111/3/674]
I will address Guzzi et al though because I don't think I full expressed how bad this evidence is. Firstly, come on dude. The journal Interdisciplinary Toxicology has an impact factor of 0.22 [https://www.researchgate.net/journal/1337-9569_Interdisciplinary_toxicology] and they publish 90% of what they receive [https://content.sciendo.com/view/journals/intox/intox-overview.xml]. Not only that, but Guzzi's institute is highly suspect. He's the only person I can find who's published from there, the institute's business email is Guzzi's personal email and the address for the institute is just a residential block. As for the experiment, the starting dose was way lower for thimerosal and cell viability was already decreasing for both MeHg and EtHg at the first dose. Basically, there was no way Guzzi couldn't get the results he wanted.
But anyway, assuming the experiment wasn't rigged and assuming the results can be trusted, who cares if thimerosal decreases cell viability in vitro, in one specific cell line, in one specific experiment. You have to make a huge leap from "it might kill modified immune cells in a test tube" to "it causes autism" Try looking at research on the brain For example, this review that determined brain damage is lower for EtHg than MeHg, access to the brain is less for EtHg, mercury from EtHg clears faster than mercury from MeHg, infants clear EtHg faster than adults and EtHg safe exposure is higher than predicted from looking at MeHg [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12884410]. Or try this in vivo experiment on infant macaques that found oral MeHg (such as from eating tuna) resulted in three to four fold higher brain mercury than i.m thimerosal (such as from outdated vaccines) [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1280342/]. It also found plasma half life was nearly three fold lower and clearance was more than five fold higher. Basically, trace amounts do not build up over time and MeHg is a really really bad reference.
as for going straight into your system before being filtered, I still don't see why you insist this is relevant. It's not unique t thimerosal and is physiologically meaningless. I strongly suspect it was just meant to sound scary and you've sadly fallen for it
@Sloan Jask so far all i saw was ppl who are paid to lie about the subject cause they have a invested interest in it you have proven shit by posting garbage from the AAP, NCBI etc those are the ones suspect with a money agenda
how is methylmercury less dangerous when it takes less of it to cause the same damage
so harmless that autism was not a thing till it was in vaccines
i guess you forget that fact
you got anything better than government links or ppl paid by government sources to push the agenda ?????
and yes they can make it to where you pick up traitss of others by introducing their dna into your system
lol corvela is not a government source abe
they dont like them cause the are exposing the truth
just like Dr. Bradstreet
that was about to expose this 3 years ago
but was killed after the feds raided his research facility hmmm
he was going to go public with this and a week before he could he was murdered
i have poste it in here before
how do you not see this when i post it in here a lot lol
so he was going exposing the cancers in vaccines to start with and he was doing research on autism which led him to the vaccine thing in the first place
funny how being a doctor and having kids with autism will do that huh
trying to find out why his son and step son had autism
funny thing is thimerosal is not the only thing to worry about and looks like this is just as big if not bigger
i mean they already admit to cancers in polio vaccines with the sv40
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