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Wazzzzzzzzzzzzzuuuuuuuuuuupppppppp peeps
thats messed up
maybe because there is no concrete evidence for dangers of 5G
empty speculation doesn't count as evidence to take adequate actions
there is tho
i showed u it twice
you think everything is just peachy keen
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APPEAL
I APPEAL THIS
do you concede?
we have been through this
non-ionising radiation has been ***speculated*** to cause damage on the basis of possible effects on animals and plants
not on us
the results it lists is a "correalation = causation" bs
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Don't fight pls
Avoid
he asked
shoo
Satan
You know already
Science is considered fantasy here
Don't apply it herw
i mean
Here
I dont care
Quit it
if he asks im gonna answer it
and there's that
Whatever
im not interested in bringing up topics because its pointless
Exactly
Shh
Even when that other person said something about p waves and it doesn't work coz of the earth's core
Did I correct
Nope
Shh
Lol
Its not speculation
If animals are vulnerable so are we. What are you saying
And sam. Dont be a condecending dimwit. You dont know wtf is under us in the ground
yeah our anatomies are exactly the same gg
literally everyone of us here is exposed to non-ionising radiation and have been for ages now
Ages?
Cancer is worse
the articles you linked talked about dangers of non-ionising radiation z
Many health problems have effected more ppl
and where's the report for it?
Non ionizing radiation is like your microwave
I have explained the difference
It heats things
You need to re read then
Look at other sources
Ive sent the reports
>it heats things
>still cannot show me a wifi router heating a droplet of water
Ive sent it
what
I guess you didnt read everything I posted
Ill try to find it again
no, I asked you to show me a wifi router heating water and you said this
I post a lot of stuff. Its ok i dont expect you to read it all
Not significant but it is there
And more exposure is worse
dude..if it cant heat up a freaking droplet of water then how does it "heat things up"
Im not an expert and im not claiming to be. The problem is there is many people who have been studying these effects and say they are harmful
on basis of what? you're just believing fear-mongering clickbait articles.
No im not
literally no evidence for wifi "heating things up"
Thats what microwaves do
They cause cancer
Many other things
The cells that are most vulnerable to EMF exposure are the gametes or the reproductive cells
This is well documented
Its called microwave sickness
Girls will be harmed the most
Dammit guys. @Satan Quit arguing for the sake of arguing. Here is a reliable source that explains what information is โconfirmed and acknowledgedโ regarding 5G technology.
https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
The research has been done
Thats why they are making laws
you are not looking beyound the word "microwave"
here's the difference, whatever you put inside a microwave oven is exposed to 700 watts of energy at a short range
thats literally not what your avg router does not does it give off even half the energy of your oven
Everything builds up
I just looked on my router, says it puts out 50mW
What does a cell phone tower put out
Citizen is right. Radiation exposure is accumulative.
they want to put up 5g like every 500 or 1000 feet
100-500W according to a quick google
@BurritoPlanet @Satan I must wear a radiation exposure badge at work.
What if I wear my badge with me everywhere I go, mainly my home. My exposure results get turned in for documenting every month.
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Out of curiosity where do you work?
I am in the health profession.
What does that matter?
The info is there
@The Gwench radiology dept?
I work with radiology every day.
Did you know that they usually dont find anything on someone unless they follow them for 10 years
Its not about heating
Cell guidlines were introduced in 1993 and concerned heating
Cell phone companies behave like tobacco companies
Berkley was the first place to pass smoking laws in then 70s
Radiation exposure usually affects those cells that go through reproduction and proliferation. Mainly most cells in our reproductive system. Many glands such as our thyroid are also highly susceptible to damage. This has been proven from exposure to earlier technology. The shorter wave technology to come will be able to penetrate deeper than ever before.
Now they are warning about wifi
Its very hard to do testing on things like eggs
as you work in this field can you clarify why ionising radiation is treated as more harmful then non-ionising? because no one is denying that radiation is an issue but typically non-ionising radiations are not considered cancerous @The Gwench
Thats like saying explain why guns are treated more harmful than knives ๐
i've never seen a long range stabbing, just saying ๐
Plenty of people have died from sharp objects beeing thrown =)
true
Non ionizing radiation is harmful
well but z here refuses to look beyond the word "microwave" to get whats the difference between short and long range exposures especially at low af energies
No lol
@Satan You are not understanding what ionizing radiation means. It means it has a faster and much shorter wavelength...especially at closer ranges to the source. That is precisely what 5G technology is. It has a much faster and shorter wavelength. However they say it is less dangerous at further distances.
...dude..no..
the articles z linked me were a study of harmful effects of
Whatever you do, donโt carry your cell phone in your bra. ๐
non-ionising radiation
yeah no thats kinda gross, harmful or not lmao
Lol
Cell phones worn on a belt can reduce sperm by 30%
we know ionising is harmful and not denying it
Non-ionising is not and thats what my point is
Or in your back pocket. Cell phones around your hips can kill female eggs. We only have so many eggs.
Wireless radiation is harmful
^^evidence please
@Satan Non-ionizing radiation doesnโt cause cancer like ionizing does...except for skin cancer. However, non-ionizing radiation still has negative effects at the cellular level.
Plenty of it
Its been shown to be harmful on many parts of the body
Evidence?
Youre making bold claims.
@The Gwench im sorry but isnt 5G non-ionising?
Ive put plenty of info up
Search it out
Thats what im asking for
Watch the berkley meeting i posted
Its 2 hours full of testimony packed full of info to research
@Citizen Z Are there any scientific research papers that uphold the claims? Im asking so that I can get informed, because it has got to be the first time I hear that 5g is bad.
Coming right up. ๐
5g is new and in testing
Oh, thanks @The Gwench
We are canaries in the coal mine
@AcidFog It is a great resource. Gives names of scientists and access to all their research articles.
Its not just 5g
Cell phones are harmful
Overtime they say
They have barely scratched the surface on cell phone research. Our phones are new
Long term studies are needed
I think the info is out there tho
Enough to say its not good for us
It can take 40 years to see effects
My grandma told me they used to use X-ray machines in shoe stores to see if a shoe was a good fit. ๐
We dont even have 10 year studies
The Berkeley town council meeting is good
well done, gwen
5G is non-ionising and you are exposed to it at a long range, what are the harms again?
@The Gwench , 5G is not "ionising"
This generation is the first that will have cradle to grave exposure
There is no longer a control group to study
Everyone is exposed
Well, wouldnt more cases of radiation be reflected on the data since there have been 5 generations now of wi-fi connections?
^^
Not everywhere has had wifi for 5 generations
It doesnt matter, thats the thing about wi-fi, whether you have it or not, its there, in the air.
So more people should have been affected, ppl that the data doesnt show?
Cell phones havent been used for 5 generations
More ppl are effected. Cancer rates are higher
5 generations of WIFI
Not people
Oh ok
Cancer is also augmented by many other factors btw
The studies are there
Type of food ingested, exposure to radiation in flights...
Amount of time spent under the sun...
The more industrial the food diet is, the higher the chance of cancer, for example.
Corporations have been ripping us off and controlling our lives forever. Dont trust them
Cooperations?
Yes
You mean corporation
Yes
Okay
'Cause cooperation is a format of a company completely different to corporation xD
Look at the info
Quit correcting my spelling
Well that the thing about capitalism, companies arent charities, theyre here to exploit their clients to maximize earnings. But this is something that has been happening since before the middle ages.
For example, Discord or FB, they will sell your interests to companies so that they can make targeted ads.
@AcidFog We donโt appreciate members constantly correcting spelling errors and then acting all superior about it. If I see that kind of behaviour from you again I will ban you myself. Am I understood?
Lol
Just look at the info. We are in the first steps of figuring out the harmful effects of cell phones
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