Energy and momentum deforms space itself

Think of space as a sort of fabric

they know it all! there is no discussion its proven fact

and earth is a marble on that fabric

if you place another marble near that fabric

it rolls to earth

The theory of gravity can and probably will change at some point, but right now it's the current best explanation. That's gravity.

but earth also rolls to it

the smaller the other marble is

the less earth rolls to it

these guys are happy with their stories, ive no idea why they want to discuss it

Add more energy to it, and it deforms even more. Take energy away and it will deform less

now imagine a 3d fabric

You’re right that we don’t know how gravity works on the quantum level yet

that's gravity

But there are a lot of theories

Imagine placing a bowling ball on a trampoline

what a joke

Anything with less mass that is close to that deformation of the trampoline will fall towards the ball. There’s no way around it

Unless you add enough energy for it to breeze past

omg, yes, I know the gravity analogy to stretched fabric, *please* don't go into it again...

Quickly

It’s that simple

it's that simple, is it?

*to put it simply*

@Drewski4343 lol youre a glober and cant bear to hear the trampoline analogy

It's the coming in here and declaring a throughout understanding of gravity that bugs me more.

ok

please explain it better

It's a non-zero value of the stress-energy-momentum tensor.

sounds like you took that from the dictionary

but aight

you can look it up in the dictionary if you'd like lol.

yep lol

it's not there

but anyway

do you understand the gr group theory @Drewski4343

I never said there are no mysteries left

no, I know of it, but I wouldn't say I understand it.

need more reading

But we have a very good understanding

I can answer any questions

@SpiderLedgic (Cancer) we? re yuo royalty?

If you’re curious

a good enough understanding that we can apply it to earth

do you understand the gr group theory?@SpiderLedgic (Cancer)

oh yes, GR works incredibly well on regular scales.

And space travel

but it still *doesn't* work on quantum and macro scales.

newtonian physics is used for all space travel we are told

so there's more work left to do in the development of the theory of gravity.

youre full of bs

It works on macro scales what do you mean?

no, it doesn't. That's why they invented dark matter/energy.

it's a fudge factor

Umm

No

oh, no?

so, GR perfectly explains the rotation of large scale galaxies?

*invented*

Dark matter is an explanation for why there’s so much gravity in a galaxy

lol

We don’t understand dark matter but we know how it interacts thru gravity

no, my friend. it is *assumed* there's much more gravity.

to make that assumption, we need dark matter.

otherwise GR can't explain it.

oops

It’s not assumed it’s known

so dark matter was created as an *oh fudge, we need this or gravity fails*?

We can see it’s gravitational effects

not as simple as that, but yes. It's a mysterious substance we can't see or detect but we need it to be there for GR to make sense.

It's entirely possible there's something missing within GR that can account for macro scale gravity without needing dark matter. Some scientists don't even believe in dark matter.

Well GR is known to be an incomplete theory. Again, no one is denying that

Okay, good.

But it works for what we need it to do

We also can detect it through gravitational lensing

Dark matter

Sort of. Quantum renormalization would be pretty good to know.

The flat earthers here would say those gravitational lensing photos are fake.

Gravity is non renormalizable

yes, I know.

It’s not a true force

I’m not sure if most flat Earthers understand gravity at all

They dont

If they did they wouldn’t be a flat Earther

That's the discrepancy between quantum scales and Minkowski spacetime.

Right

Anyway my point from earlier

If gravity behaved as we measure it, but on a flat Earth instead, there would be many strange consequences

right. That's why they don't believe gravity is real.

That would be awfully fun to measure lol

Since even plants are known to respond to gravity

And even our bodies

Yep

Water would flow to the centre like a big sink

If it went to the central mass part

Yea

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