I want solid an conclusive proof please

@walkefr of?

atmospheric refraction is the deviation of light due to atmospheric conditions such as air density as a function of height. if you understand this, it is very understandable how chicago would be elevated at our perspective due to the light deviation

Everything jet is saying

Jet

https://c.tadst.com/gfx/750x500/atmospheric-refraction.png?1

assume the sun is the city and it works just well

@nef ok you can copy someone's words. Now prove it.

i just did.

look at both images.

No you didnt

The buildings are not even transparent

😂

is chicago naturally tinted the same color as the sky?

woah do you notice how it's under the horizon? that also disproves flat earth

They are not transparent

@nef no thats how optics work.

they're tinted. that means they are not solid objects blocking the light behind it from coming through

Do you know how many miles that is?

60

Of course color change

iirc

60 miles

Its blurry

Its 60 miles

that's due to the camera

if we view it in person it's not going to be pixilated.

is that an image of the ocean or the moutains behind it?

or is that again just another example of refraction

how many people here believe in flat earth?

When you can show me a scientifically proven study that shows mountains popping up 3 miles into the air and the earth just appears flat. I will take what you are saying seriously.

*appears flat*

the earth does appear flat.

But magic unproven refraction disproves it?

you can see refraction in person.

--- PERSPECTIVE ..

why things disappear bottom-up from horizon ...

https://prnt.sc/g1fy4g
https://prnt.sc/mz0jy5

No you cant

really?

Yes really.

have you went to the exact locations at the same weather and proved that?

Its not refraction.

what is it then

Its the actual objects

the thing im confused about is if the earth is flat wouldnt all the water leak off the edge?

why are they below the horizon?

@CanWab who told you there is an edge?

@nef optical slant

so ur saying that earth is infinite?

The way light works

what

@CanWab who told you the earth had an edge or it is infinite?

@nef the angular resolution of the eye is .02 degrees

ihave an ez debunk of flat earth using my genius intellect

1) you cannot trust the reliability of your senses. you could be in a matrix and the world you think you see could be merely a figment of your imagination. for instance, we could live in a computer simulation
2) because our senses may be unreliable, you cannot depend on observations as evidence that the Earth is flat. the Earth may not even exist, and may simply be an illusion
3) therefore, the assertion that the earth is flat can be rejected on the basis of insufficient evidence

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agnostic earther 1 flat earthers 0

nobody lol

now they showed up smh
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dosent optical slant rely only on what the observers perspective is

wait who here believes that earth is flat?

@EliteGamer how bout direct measurements

why the fk am i not seeing printscreen pics show up wtfrig
taking 10 mins now -- smh... must be discord glitching up ugh..

you cannot trust direct measurements since they rely on your senses

FECORE Laser Level Experiments https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bV8hCkvT7gRFkoR6J0AY1mDwYfQR7PAg/view

Direct measurements dont rely on senses. Stop trolling @EliteGamer

ye sthey do, all observations rely on our senses. i hereby reject your evidence on the basis of unreliability

@Citizen Z because he presented an opinion or argument does not mean he's trolling btw

if hes wrong prove him wrong.

also if the earth is flat. how come we can only view certain stars at certain latitudes?

why can't we see some islands at the very top of moutains either, probably because the atmosphere blocks the light?

@nef so you believe direct measurements rely on senses also?

i dont really know lmao

also why do sunsets and sunrises happen at different times at different latitudes and longitudes?

e.e https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/960x0/https%3A%2F%2Fblogs-images.forbes.com%2Fstartswithabang%2Ffiles%2F2017%2F11%2FCircumference-calc.jpg

all observations rely on the senses. it is impossible to observe measurements without perception

You have a lot of questions

yes

also how do seasons work on a flat earth?

along with day and night

Looking at a tape measures isnt relying on senses

@nef check pinned msgs

yes, you are using your sense of vision sir. that is a sense

Did you watch the videos?

such as

i did not sir, it would not matter because vision may be an unreliable sense and thus cannot be trusted to make reliable observations

i actually don't think the earth is round lmao

it's an oblate spheriod

Proof?

it's essentially just round earth. but water at the poles is stretched because of rotation iirc

sir, please provide evidence that the Earth is flat, because so far your evidence has been rejected on the basis of unreliability

How many miles does the equator deviate from being a perfect sphere?

lemme check

it's very small

Yes..not detectable..unless your name is NASA

it's 13 miles at the equator

I mean with an image of the earth and some math you could calculate it

So you believe someone measured that?

it makes sense to me.

What image of earth?

the several found on google if you google earth

Send me a source link.