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2019-04-13 05:51:11 UTC

It's different

2019-04-13 05:51:18 UTC

oh

2019-04-13 05:51:21 UTC

HARPP is a conspiracy i believe

2019-04-13 05:51:25 UTC

idk

2019-04-13 05:51:26 UTC

it hasn't been 100% proven

2019-04-13 05:51:27 UTC

I thought it was something else @ร†tos

2019-04-13 05:51:28 UTC

im not sure

2019-04-13 05:51:33 UTC

it's similar

2019-04-13 05:51:34 UTC

My apologizes

2019-04-13 05:51:40 UTC

To some people itโ€™s something else

2019-04-13 05:51:44 UTC

but cloud seeding is admitted by governments and other countries.

2019-04-13 05:51:59 UTC

yeah

2019-04-13 05:52:00 UTC

To me itโ€™s things like that and the more advanced things likely in development.

2019-04-13 05:52:02 UTC

and its good

2019-04-13 05:52:06 UTC

just like GMO

2019-04-13 05:52:18 UTC

and vaccine stuff

2019-04-13 05:52:18 UTC

GMOโ€™s are weird

2019-04-13 05:52:23 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GQAXxmiSdk "Potassium chloride, sodium chloride, magnesium, and other materials.... it's essentially salt"

2019-04-13 05:52:24 UTC

nah i like them

2019-04-13 05:52:34 UTC

That is a video on the UAE using cloud seeding

2019-04-13 05:52:35 UTC

Alright, @Credibly Charted has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-04-13 05:52:35 UTC

They arenโ€™t inherently bad

2019-04-13 05:52:43 UTC

cool

2019-04-13 05:52:47 UTC

yeah they arent

2019-04-13 05:52:51 UTC

Oh great

2019-04-13 05:52:56 UTC

idk why people like bio so much

2019-04-13 05:53:15 UTC

Genetic modification shouldnt be a bad thing

2019-04-13 05:53:26 UTC

i dont even know what would be bad about it

2019-04-13 05:53:33 UTC

It should be "another tool in our toolbox"

2019-04-13 05:53:54 UTC

I don't think we should be relying on it 100% when we don't even understand genetics 100%.

2019-04-13 05:53:57 UTC

The only issue with GMOs is that the method with which the genes are modified is a virus.

2019-04-13 05:54:03 UTC

We are literally just testing through trial and error.

2019-04-13 05:54:06 UTC

If the virus mutates we donโ€™t know what happens.

2019-04-13 05:54:08 UTC

it helps food grow faster and helps it be stronger against diseases

2019-04-13 05:54:16 UTC

Yes, but we are affected by that

2019-04-13 05:54:18 UTC

Did you know that most things have GMOs?

2019-04-13 05:54:19 UTC

in a negative way.

2019-04-13 05:54:23 UTC

Rather shocking but it is true

2019-04-13 05:54:24 UTC

yeah

2019-04-13 05:54:32 UTC

Everything has it's risks, right?

2019-04-13 05:54:37 UTC

yeah

2019-04-13 05:54:47 UTC

plus GMO/starving

2019-04-13 05:54:51 UTC

kinda obvious

2019-04-13 05:54:53 UTC

Almost everything is GMO already.

2019-04-13 05:54:56 UTC

yeah

2019-04-13 05:54:59 UTC

The average dog is a GMO, lmao

2019-04-13 05:55:00 UTC

You still have to look at the bigger picture

2019-04-13 05:55:12 UTC

?>

2019-04-13 05:55:13 UTC

the issue with long-term use, and use that we don't understand could lead to world-wide epidemics.

2019-04-13 05:55:15 UTC

Potentially.

2019-04-13 05:55:24 UTC

GMO'S?

2019-04-13 05:55:40 UTC

Crops in general. GMO or not, diseases can run rampant.

2019-04-13 05:55:50 UTC

hold on

2019-04-13 05:56:06 UTC

Begs the question, if we don't understand it 100%.... then you don't know if what you're doing is beneficial 100% or not.

2019-04-13 05:56:19 UTC

It has pros and cons

2019-04-13 05:56:47 UTC

Plus the fact it is like a virus, that is over-rides local crops as well. Whether people consent or not through pollination.

2019-04-13 05:56:50 UTC

Genetic engineers must first choose what gene they wish to insert, modify or delete. The gene must then be isolated and incorporated, along with other genetic elements, into a suitable vector. This vector is then used to insert the gene into the host organism, creating the GMO.

2019-04-13 05:57:01 UTC

Begs the question of does it violate someone's rights?

2019-04-13 05:57:14 UTC

That's like me walking by your farm and throwing my seeds on your field essentially.

2019-04-13 05:57:24 UTC

Is that just?

2019-04-13 05:57:36 UTC

Early targeting systems relied on meganucleases and zinc finger nucleases. Since 2009 more accurate and easier systems to implement have been developed. Transcription activator-like effector nucleases (TALENs) and the Cas9-guideRNA system (adapted from CRISPR) are the two most commonly used. They may potentially be useful in gene therapy and other procedures that require accurate or high through put targeting.

2019-04-13 05:57:39 UTC

thats better

2019-04-13 05:57:40 UTC

You don't know 100% what is in that see, or what it will do to your crop.

2019-04-13 05:57:54 UTC

well

2019-04-13 05:57:57 UTC

you kind of do

2019-04-13 05:58:03 UTC

Kind of

2019-04-13 05:58:04 UTC

if you know how to read genetics

2019-04-13 05:58:10 UTC

No

2019-04-13 05:58:13 UTC

and experiment long enough

2019-04-13 05:58:14 UTC

You obviously don't know genetics then

2019-04-13 05:58:18 UTC

what?

2019-04-13 05:58:29 UTC

I can link you a ted talk if you're interested

2019-04-13 05:58:31 UTC

genetics is a code we cant read yet

2019-04-13 05:58:36 UTC

Genetics isn't simple ABC.

2019-04-13 05:58:41 UTC

yes it isnt

2019-04-13 05:58:41 UTC

It is a code we can read, but....

2019-04-13 05:58:46 UTC

i never said it was

2019-04-13 05:58:48 UTC

what we've realized

2019-04-13 05:59:01 UTC

is that "code" that should per say be hypothetically X amount of pages

2019-04-13 05:59:07 UTC

every gene you modify can trigger another outcome

2019-04-13 05:59:09 UTC

turns out to be hidden in thousands of more pages of nonsense

2019-04-13 05:59:18 UTC

We can read it. We donโ€™t always know what weโ€™re writing, though.

2019-04-13 05:59:18 UTC

well it still is code

2019-04-13 05:59:20 UTC

that is the analogy to best explain.

2019-04-13 05:59:25 UTC

Dude.

2019-04-13 05:59:29 UTC

my statement is correct

2019-04-13 05:59:33 UTC

because it is code

2019-04-13 05:59:34 UTC

I'll recommend the book i'm reading now

2019-04-13 05:59:37 UTC

if you genuinely want to learn

2019-04-13 05:59:46 UTC

where is my mistake?

2019-04-13 06:00:15 UTC

Genome: The autobiography of species in 23 chapters Matt Riddley

2019-04-13 06:00:25 UTC

It's much more complicated than you realize that's all.

2019-04-13 06:00:26 UTC

where is my mistake though

2019-04-13 06:00:34 UTC

i realize how complicated it is

2019-04-13 06:00:38 UTC

I tried to explain, but it's much more than what could be said in one sentence.

2019-04-13 06:00:43 UTC

well dont

2019-04-13 06:00:50 UTC

i have read about it

2019-04-13 06:00:59 UTC

please stop degrading me though

2019-04-13 06:01:10 UTC

I'm not oof

2019-04-13 06:01:20 UTC

You asked for the evidence

2019-04-13 06:01:22 UTC

I provided

2019-04-13 06:01:22 UTC

It's much more complicated than you realize that's all.

2019-04-13 06:01:23 UTC

come on

2019-04-13 06:01:24 UTC

you said i was wrong

2019-04-13 06:01:28 UTC

and i gave you the citations

2019-04-13 06:01:38 UTC

then you're still telling me i'm the one that's wrong.

2019-04-13 06:01:40 UTC

i never said anything wrong

2019-04-13 06:01:44 UTC

im not

2019-04-13 06:01:50 UTC

and when I say it's more complicated, you say i'm the one degrading. okay

2019-04-13 06:01:52 UTC

you are telling me to get educated

2019-04-13 06:01:57 UTC

Guys, letโ€™s be honest, none of us are experts on this. Itโ€™s just an opinion.

2019-04-13 06:02:00 UTC

You asked for my evidence bro

2019-04-13 06:02:05 UTC

Exactly

2019-04-13 06:02:08 UTC

i didnt

2019-04-13 06:02:20 UTC

check the logs

2019-04-13 06:02:23 UTC

i was talking

2019-04-13 06:02:27 UTC

That's why i'm saying I can't explain it in one sentence and provided you sources that I haven't even completely finished reading yet.

2019-04-13 06:02:39 UTC

i dont need explaining though ;-;

2019-04-13 06:02:39 UTC

So am I

2019-04-13 06:02:43 UTC

You asked, and you received.

2019-04-13 06:02:54 UTC

i didnt ask though

2019-04-13 06:03:00 UTC

Okay

2019-04-13 06:03:03 UTC

thats the prob

2019-04-13 06:03:06 UTC

Then move on?

2019-04-13 06:03:12 UTC

^

2019-04-13 06:03:15 UTC

It's a misunderstanding then

2019-04-13 06:03:19 UTC

dont be like that man

2019-04-13 06:03:21 UTC

yes it is

2019-04-13 06:03:23 UTC

Why donโ€™t we just continue the discussion?

2019-04-13 06:03:27 UTC

yeah

2019-04-13 06:03:29 UTC

id like to

2019-04-13 06:03:38 UTC

one sec, i have to finish this government paperwork

2019-04-13 06:03:43 UTC

Semantics and misunderstandings shouldnโ€™t lock us down forever.

2019-04-13 06:03:44 UTC

ok

2019-04-13 06:03:47 UTC

man come on

2019-04-13 06:03:51 UTC

XD

2019-04-13 06:04:05 UTC

yeah it shouldnt

2019-04-13 06:04:21 UTC

i never said i was an expert but i didnt say anything wrong

2019-04-13 06:04:32 UTC

idk how this even came up

2019-04-13 06:04:33 UTC

Same here

2019-04-13 06:04:41 UTC

So stop perpetuating pls โค

2019-04-13 06:05:20 UTC

im not

2019-04-13 06:05:21 UTC

;-;

2019-04-13 06:05:28 UTC

im ready to move on

2019-04-13 06:05:36 UTC

so

2019-04-13 06:05:37 UTC

What topic are you passionate about?

2019-04-13 06:05:43 UTC

physics

2019-04-13 06:05:56 UTC

Pls englighten me, cause that's something I don't look into.

2019-04-13 06:06:06 UTC

Do you focus on space stuff?

2019-04-13 06:06:16 UTC

that and quantum mechanics

2019-04-13 06:06:26 UTC

<:kitty1:507996065115406352>

2019-04-13 06:06:42 UTC

also theory of relativity is a something i worked on for quite a while

2019-04-13 06:06:57 UTC

I know lots about those stuff

2019-04-13 06:07:07 UTC

I actually just a book from my university's library that breaks down the theories for me

2019-04-13 06:07:12 UTC

*Oh, yeah?*

2019-04-13 06:07:15 UTC

cool

2019-04-13 06:07:15 UTC

so i guess i can say i'm curious

2019-04-13 06:07:19 UTC

yay

2019-04-13 06:07:22 UTC

but haven't gotten the change to read over it yet

2019-04-13 06:07:32 UTC

*What does c equal in Einsteinโ€™s equation of relativity?*

2019-04-13 06:07:37 UTC

I bet that will stump you

2019-04-13 06:07:38 UTC

black holes are an extremly nice topic

2019-04-13 06:07:41 UTC

nope

2019-04-13 06:07:45 UTC

speed of light

2019-04-13 06:07:47 UTC

Yeeeeees

2019-04-13 06:07:52 UTC

299 792 458 m/s

2019-04-13 06:07:53 UTC

What about blackholes do you like most?

2019-04-13 06:07:56 UTC

yay!

2019-04-13 06:07:58 UTC

**HOLY SHEEEEIT, U RITE**

2019-04-13 06:08:13 UTC

i actually had to memorize that

2019-04-13 06:08:22 UTC

it sucks ;-;

2019-04-13 06:08:31 UTC

I donโ€™t specialize in any of that, Kek.

2019-04-13 06:08:39 UTC

Iโ€™m a humble scrub

2019-04-13 06:08:50 UTC

Just messing with you, XD

2019-04-13 06:08:53 UTC

nah

2019-04-13 06:09:12 UTC

you being here and talking about this stuff makes you smarter than most people

2019-04-13 06:09:26 UTC

Probably not

2019-04-13 06:09:31 UTC

I prefer just honest talk

2019-04-13 06:09:39 UTC

This is actually quite enjoyable

2019-04-13 06:09:52 UTC

Pure trolling and hardcore arguments get old after a while.

2019-04-13 06:09:53 UTC

I cans safely say people who have a burning passion for learning are always the ones that get somewhere within life

2019-04-13 06:09:59 UTC

oh

2019-04-13 06:10:04 UTC

;-;

2019-04-13 06:10:09 UTC

so you dont wanna talk?

2019-04-13 06:10:17 UTC

What?

2019-04-13 06:10:26 UTC

No, I do want to talk, lol

2019-04-13 06:10:34 UTC

I said I enjoyed this kind of thing

2019-04-13 06:10:41 UTC

idk you said hard arguments get old so i got worried

2019-04-13 06:10:55 UTC

I meant like conflict arguments

2019-04-13 06:10:58 UTC

also Tabby are you still alive?

2019-04-13 06:10:59 UTC

oh

2019-04-13 06:11:01 UTC

Yes

2019-04-13 06:11:02 UTC

Sorry

2019-04-13 06:11:02 UTC

yeah

2019-04-13 06:11:04 UTC

yay

2019-04-13 06:11:13 UTC

Stupid paperwork to cross borders oof

2019-04-13 06:11:22 UTC

Department of Homeland Security even oof

2019-04-13 06:11:32 UTC

;3;

2019-04-13 06:11:40 UTC

where are you going?

2019-04-13 06:11:46 UTC

USA

2019-04-13 06:11:55 UTC

It's for my husband to cross from Canada

2019-04-13 06:11:59 UTC

All over some stupid shenanigans

2019-04-13 06:12:10 UTC

hmm

2019-04-13 06:12:16 UTC

i live in canada

2019-04-13 06:12:18 UTC

:D

2019-04-13 06:12:25 UTC

I moved here from england

2019-04-13 06:12:33 UTC

Thatโ€™s unique paperwork.

2019-04-13 06:12:40 UTC

I'm from the USA

2019-04-13 06:12:45 UTC

cool

2019-04-13 06:12:59 UTC

if you come into VC aetos i'll tell you real quick what it's for

2019-04-13 06:13:07 UTC

i wanna join

2019-04-13 06:13:09 UTC

;-;

2019-04-13 06:13:22 UTC

come hither

2019-04-13 06:13:27 UTC

Sure, Iโ€™ll go into VC

2019-04-13 06:13:32 UTC

Who knows if Iโ€™ll talk.

2019-04-13 06:13:34 UTC

i just don't wanna put my life on blast

2019-04-13 06:13:37 UTC

on chat

2019-04-13 06:13:39 UTC

Kind of tired.

2019-04-13 06:13:40 UTC

yup

2019-04-13 06:13:43 UTC

yeah XD

2019-04-13 06:13:58 UTC

It's really a petty thing

2019-04-13 06:13:59 UTC

i have bad social anxiety

2019-04-13 06:14:03 UTC

you don't need to hop in VC even

2019-04-13 06:14:06 UTC

I already expect some kind of government job the second DoHS is mentioned.

2019-04-13 06:14:08 UTC

not even a big deal

2019-04-13 06:14:11 UTC

just know that

2019-04-13 06:14:19 UTC

No

2019-04-13 06:14:21 UTC

ill listen

2019-04-13 06:14:24 UTC

Over an empy bag in a car

2019-04-13 06:14:25 UTC

instead

2019-04-13 06:14:34 UTC

hello

2019-04-13 06:14:34 UTC

Ah, gotcha.

2019-04-13 06:14:48 UTC

im sorry that i cant talk

2019-04-13 06:15:15 UTC

Donโ€™t worry about it

2019-04-13 06:15:17 UTC

wow

2019-04-13 06:15:31 UTC

yeah

2019-04-13 06:15:53 UTC

we are also doing that stuff

2019-04-13 06:16:23 UTC

that sucks

2019-04-13 06:16:31 UTC

yeah we are doing the same thing too

2019-04-13 06:17:15 UTC

;-;

2019-04-13 06:17:29 UTC

yeah things really arent extremly good here either

2019-04-13 06:17:40 UTC

i never realized how much drugs were an issue

2019-04-13 06:17:47 UTC

until i came to vancouver

2019-04-13 06:18:15 UTC

hmmm

2019-04-13 06:18:40 UTC

yup

2019-04-13 06:19:37 UTC

XD

2019-04-13 06:20:32 UTC

*When all your texts are responses to a VC, so you look like youโ€™re talking to someone who got server banned.*

2019-04-13 06:20:41 UTC

XD

2019-04-13 06:20:43 UTC

._.

2019-04-13 06:21:04 UTC

London isnt good but this is the kinda the stupid stuff we deal with too. The border control here is really mental

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