majority?

Unvaxxed

Yes

Majority

so kids that were vaxxed got it to?

It’s the cdc dummy

Not a news story

so kids that were vaxxed got it to?

Vaccines aren’t 100% effective

how bout you screen the border

They lower the severity

you dont even know if vaccines helped

you dont know shit

you are assuming the news is true

How bout you tell unvaxxed people to get vaccinated

It’s not news

how bout i dont

Alright, @POP-UP BLOCKER has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

It’s the cdc

how bout i tell them to not get vaxxed and not belive the tyranical government

It’s not news

the cdc is garbage

How do you know

You spout bullcrap without proof

you believe the government when they tell you to inject poison into your body?

Do you know how vaccines work?

you spout bullcrap with proof

You inject a little of the disease so the body fights it off completely, then makes an immunity towards it

you just told me vaccinated kids got sick

so that means the vaccine didnt help them

Because vaccines don’t make you Superman

your proof just got flushed down the toilet

They’re not 100 percent effective

You dummy

so you say

ad hominem doesnt help you

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So you’re saying not 100 percent effective against diseases means you shouldn’t have a defense at all

So you say

im saying you have not proved the vaccine helped a t all

Omg

you proved the opposite

You want proof

you cant prove it to me

you have weak NPR news articles

Why is the whooping cough, measles, smallpox not running rampant today

fake news

Why have a vast amount of diseases been iradicated

cuz it was eradicated long ago. not with vaccines.

We’re is the Black Plague

gone.

Where’s the smallpox

no vaccine helped it.

Where’s the measles

the black plague just disappeared prtty much

i have proof. you dont.

Measles are coming back because of idiots who don’t vaccinate

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/483561600435879938/526604970523623429/Vaccine_4.png

Not vaccinating is deadly

measels are coming back cuz you have a bunch of illegal aliens flooding in

And it’s spreading because of unvaxxed idiots

wrong.

And unvaxxed people

your opinion.

No

It’s common sense

brainwashed opinion might i add

oh its spreading so fast

55 people

It could spread some more

gimme a break with your liberal fear mongering

Z

I’m not a liberal

question

clean up your border

And I’m not fear monger omg

wash your dam hands

Mongering*

why does that chart look at only death rate?

cuz thats what everyone thinkls happens when you get a virus. LOL

why not infection rates

infection rate would be a much better chart

And where the vaccine arrows are look at the dips

What are those dips caused by huh??

obiously if death rate is down infection rate is down

Just vaccinate your children

not really Z

@POP-UP BLOCKER where the vaccine arrows are ias where the disease already stop killing people

Wrong

It’s still killing

@POP-UP BLOCKER you go ahead. Im no stopping you. stop trying to run peoples lives.

just because you can stop someone from dieing doesnt mean you can stop people from getting infected

Of course people will build up an immunity, but vaccines are much faster and safer

Over time

like penicillin can stop you from dying from diseases, but it doesnt stop you from gtting infected in the first place

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/483561600435879938/526604970523623429/Vaccine_4.png

Yeah

Unvaccinated children will die

shit was gone already

no, the death rate was down

that isnt the same thing Z

*

show me infecdtion rate then peper

^

Can’t post pictures here

ill find you history of infection rate. i have it somewhere

It’s simple

There isn’t aluminum in vaccines

There’s no aborted children cells

They’re not poisonous

look atb tetnus

Get checkmated citizen

Again

That’s mortality

@POP-UP BLOCKER have a problem? you are free to leave.

Z, that is death rates

And you’re trying to hide the dip with the arrow

Lol

look at decline b4 hand

Infection rate pls

Because the infection rate for polio proves the point

and goes against your point

That’s just propaganda

oh is it?

And false

i dont doubt the deaths

Like you said

its just disengenious

there was 8 deaths due to measels that ive found. basically 0

Imigrants bringing measles

Not from the vaccines

immigrants bring measels. there ya go.

Yeah

Not vaccines

Numbskull

peper your graph supports the fact cases and deaths are very close in line.

@POP-UP BLOCKER last warning withn the insults

Insults?

I can’t even curse here

i gave you the rules

But you can

eeek

you just got here you havent got that permission.

Checkmated

Again

near the bottom https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/immunization/vaccine-preventable-diseases/diphtheria/health-professionals.html

if you cant have a civil debate then this server isnt for you

i never called you any names.

But you cursed

And I can’t

so.

Why can’t I

By you can

cuz you just got here

It lets you over time?

i have permission cuz im trusted not to abuse it. just as many others are trusted here

I didn’t abuse

I just called something bull-

you have been calling me names repeatedly

That’s different

I’m saying I can’t curse

Or post images

you do that to everyone dont agree with? try to shame them into believing you religion?

again, canada

What religion

Cause I’m an atheist

Look st my role

look at is spike in 2012 peper

atheist is a religion.

@DrPeper pretty sharp dip there amirite

@Citizen Z are you intellectually handicapped

It’s not a religion

It’s anti-religion

@POP-UP BLOCKER that is your last warning

That wasn’t a insult

It was a question

The multicomponent acellular pertussis vaccine is 71–85% effective, with greater effectiveness against more severe strains.[40] However, despite widespread vaccination, pertussis has persisted in vaccinated populations and is today "one of the most common vaccine-preventable diseases in Western countries".[43] The 21st-century resurgences in pertussis infections is attributed to a combination of waning immunity and bacterial mutations that elude vaccines.[43][44]

im done talking to you. conversation over.

Handicapped is in the dictionary

Intellectually isn’t an insult

Where’s your warning

Numbskull

>>mute @POP-UP BLOCKER

<:vSuccess:390202497827864597> Successfully muted **b r u h m o m e n t**#1932

bye byer

@DrPeper also i never said all vaccines are bad. i said i question them and i dont believe we are treated fairly and told the correct info all the time.

its our job to look up this info and become aware and do whats right

all i was trying to say was that chart you posted is disingenuous

the first chart?

6 in 1

that one

its not disengenuous

its a fact

just because it doesnt have infection rates next to it

i am not saying it isnt true

infection rates closely follow it

obviously before the vaccine the infection rate was probabaly somewhat close to the death rate

then after vaccine maybe it helped. i dont know that for sure tho

not really, the problem with them is that they spread to so many people

im not just going to say something is true without knowing it is true

like techincally rabies if untreated has one of the highest mortality rates

just, it doesnt actually infect many people

and there are easy ways to stop it before it gets to its deadly stage

cholrea on the other hand would just rip through a population

i just think its a good idea to quesiton everything

i would probabaly vaccinate my children if i had any, just not directly out the womb

Don't

well everyone has free will

thats the great thing about being free

you can do what you want and i can do what i want

there is a adocument wich states you can't sue the vacines companies ,if they are safe ,why would that exist ?

sue them if they are safe?

dont get it...

why would there be a document

because its a standard practice

there is a document for everything

ive been vaccinated

wich states that you CANNOT sue the companies who make vacines for the effect of the vacines ?

oh.

i see.

yes thats standard practice

you see that all ovr the place

there will always be adverse reactions

same with tylenol

the vast majorety of people dont have a bad reaction, but for the few that do

If you can talk yourself out of it the companies would have no problem being sued cuz they would be able to talk themselves out of the sue

its still exspensive

im not against what you are saying plukke

If you can't sue them ,don't trust them

i dont trust them

thats why i sit here and get ridiculed

yeah but you would let them put needles in your kids ?

depends.

B, i bet you have signed many things saying you cant sue a company for injuries

i dont have kids so i havent had to make that decision

Drpeper yes but those weren't putting drugs in my or my kids bodies

definitely not out of the womb

maybe at age 3 or so

maybe longer

its the same concept

B

why ?

because i think there is some good science to vaccines