#civil-debate (Discord ID: 538929818834698260) in The Ice Wall, page 43
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You worship guru babaji?
A hindu guru?
With an afro who manifests as a cobra?
Hmm not that.
And makes gold eggs manifest from his sleeve?
Nope i spelled it wrong now i dont want to discuss it here since ive seen you dont talk kindly to other religions.
Well I don't necessarily have anything against other religions
I really don't
Just saying there demons yeah...
I was very into Buddhism and Hinduism before
At one point
And I don't judge or condemn anyone who belongs to another religion
Just saying there demons! which i do think is a attack on that religion...
But from a Christian perspective there is only one God and by definition any other God must be a demon or not exist. I realize that isn't politically correct but there is no other way to see it from a Christian view. Doesn't mean anyone who worships that is bad person
Although God did say "have no other gods before me"
Which would mean there are other gods
Just don't have any other before me
@The pizza -- THEY'RE = they are <:smart:484956754489376781> m'kay..
-- not "there" (or, their)
Oh from a Christian standpoint guess that is ok.
you tried coming at me earlier, trying to say 'i' had "poor grammar" ..which i DO NOT ❌
..so..ive corrected > you
on your poopr grammar
3 times, in the last 10 minutes
here, and in the Lounge
dont play dummdummhead
Ok you proved it now idc now
I want to cuddle you both spiritually tonight
Let's agree to spend the night together the 3 of us
<:tomato:507986614010511380> <:tomato:507986614010511380> <:tomato:507986614010511380>
that is nice Crusader hope you have a good night.
Me crusader you the pizza and Mike flatbird will spend one single night in deep spiritual conmunion
We will just spend one night in spiritual communion and we will bond and share and overcome our differences and see if we go to bed thinking of each other we can come together in dreams and blend into one and learn and grow with deep joy
Well i got to go nice hanging out with you!
Love you pizza
God bless you and keep you
And set the hedge of protection of Jesus christ about you
And you too Mike flatbird
I love you so much
God bless you and shelter you in the pinion of his wing
He will wash you with hyssop and make you white as snow
Please pray for me that I too may be cleansed and saved by grace of God
Try not to masturbate or view porn
It's an opening for demons
#flat earth crusaders against Satanism in the name of christ Jesus under YAHUA
i said "Yahuah"
✝ ✡ 🛐
Who want's to debate?
Debate what, flat v round?
ya guys can tag yourself up ya know, too? ..like tags/badges/interests/beliefs//etc 😃
iffn ya wanted
If earth was flat, how would gravity work
unless ya's dont plan on staying long 😆
Or just the concept of things falling down
The beautiful flat Earth moves up at all times.
So planes can kiss themselves goodbye.
i dont thinks it moves at'all actually...
But how do things accelerate, if that was the case, things stay at the same speed
Gravity is not real.
We just tend to stick to old habbits.
But how do things ACELERATE
And the ground.
Woth a rotor.
Not toilet plungers.
You're joking are you?
The second diamendor of dismorph the second.
He wrote a book on it.
It was an old channel name.
Didn't make sense.
The earth is a pentagonal pyramid
Change my mind
Hello fellow lads
I believe that the earth is a furry, because you can see trees from space and it looks like a furry
Lmfao thats the best thing ive heared all day except for someone said to me planets arent real and space isnt real
We all know that birds don't exist
They are meant to spy on us woke people
"planets" = wandering stars
"space" isn't real = the sci-fi "outer space" fairytale you've been told/shown ▬►"isn't really real" 👀
I believe i just lost 99% of my braincells by readin that
..you were supposed to have some `_before_ readin that.`
hello there my fellow citizen of a planet that looks like a furry
Wait, everyone here is joking around yea? Lol
No some people are serious lol
Just wanted to say I never meant to seem like I was making fun of Christianity or anything I'm serious about it increasingly feel satanic conspiracy behind society problems
Because of celinnunu, Billie Eillish etc
Back to the subject of flat earth
Werner von Braun the head of nasa and founder of nasa put this on his tomb stone "the heavens display the glory of God and the firmament showeth his handiwork"
From the Bible
The firmament is the dome over flat earth
In that model
Some say rockets can never get to space
They just arc and go Into the ocean
How can the earth be flat when you can observe the sunset and sunrise ?
Globers lack basic scientific knowledge
Woah, care to be specific?
Supposedly something called conservation of momentum explains it
Guys I was just on a #collapse discord and now I think humanity will be extinct in less than 20 years. We are always deep into total collapse. I think we will start seeing it in real time this year
If you pay any attention the elites and scientists already know we are doomed and have for a long time
So flat earth or round earth we need to prepare and save the world
jake, you're a the lad
Yep, the world will end any 100 years now.
in 20 years
I thought 2028 was the year to talk about.
@Green Knight Do you even think conservation of momentum is real?
I don't know because I don't know physics or math and science. Hard to understand how fuel based rocket can work in vacuum but I don't understand how lots of things work
Some say rockets never get to space because of the firmament /hard barrier
But the SpaceX rocket could be seen reentering atmosphere
It's basically like throwing a bowling ball. You're not pushing off the air, you're pushing off the ball and nothing else.
If rocket thrusters push off of air, it begs the question: What does the air push off of? You only need two components to get thrust, in this case the rocket and the gas from the thrusters. However, if the gas itself needs to push off of something else, then that something must do the same, and so on and so on. Infinite regression.
So you think space travel is fundamentally impossible?
Some speculate outer space isn't truly a vacuum
Craziest theory I've heard is space is liquid / water
Some evidence for it even
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
And God called the firmament Heaven."
**Genesis 1:6-8 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
<6> And God said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." <7> So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so. <8> God called the dome Sky. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day. ```
So Bible says above heaven /sky /dome is water
Also in the international space station footage you can see bubbles rising from astronauts showing they are under water
Search international space station bubbles on YouTube
They’re not bubbles. They’re small solid particles, most likely bits of water ice.
As the astronauts exit the ISS through the airlock, the air in it is vented to space. As the air expands, it cools (look up “adiabatic expansion”). The water vapor in the air freezes into small ice crystals. These crystals then slowly sublimate, i.e., they turn directly into water vapor, so they do not contribute to the space debris problem.
Here’s an example of humidity freezing into ice crystals as air is vented to (near) vacuum. It occurred during Felix Baumgartner’s jump from the stratosphere. As he opens the hatch, notice the cloud of ice crystals going out the top of the door. Even though the cabin was already vented nearly to ambient pressure, enough air remained inside for the water vapor in it to freeze instantly into enough ice crystals for the camera to see.
OK but why do the apparent bubbles go straight up like air bubbles rising in water?
If frozen ice or whatever would not go straight up
There is no gravity in space did you know!
Right so they should just float or go in whatever direction there momentum is
Not straight up like air bubbles
So either they are faking it in the huge simulation pool
Or space is water
Or GRAVITY IS OBSOLETE IN SPACE
Also have you heard about that astronaut on the ISS who almost drowned?
And now they all have snorkels
Hmm give me a link can you?
There is still a little bit of gravity at the iss but it is very little so stuff should still move towards earth
Yeah again no gravity in space would not make stuff go straight up as if rising in water
That would be reverse gravity not no gravity
There is no up and down in space
In no gravity it would just float in place
That's why the bubbles going fast up is not consistent with zero g space
But consider with underwater
Yes pizza I'll find you a link
It's an absurd story
Depends where the person stands and speed of the object
Might be a leak in his drinking bag?
When he almost drowned?
Heard that could happen
Drowning is possible in space for many reasons
The other thing is he was supposed to be in space and his family got a call saying hurry he is in the hospital almost drowned
And the family was like wtf he's supposed to be on the ISS
So how did he get to the hospital
Link? NASA Has underwater testing facilities in Houston Which they send astronauts to swim with the water and do tests or whatever @Green Knight
its called the Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory
Yes many people suspect the ISS is faked in that laboratory
Can't find the story version I read before
"harrowing spacewalk on July 16, 2013, in which water flooded the spacesuit helmet of Italian astronaut Luca Parmitano"
If you read all of it it says it was a water leak was a clogged filter
That was because there was water in the suit and it happened to caused water to leak
Yea a water leak from a filter
Yeah I know they say the leak was from within his suit
And I'm sure it was
I'm not necessarily sold on space as water
I just find an interesting chain of evidence. 1. The Bible says above the sky is water 2. New science says space could be liquid 3. ISS videos appear to show air bubbles rising as if underwater 4. Astronaut almost drowns in space
But I know it's a big stretch
There are quite a few YouTube videos on the subject of space as water but I don't want to post them until I can watch
Bye i going to watch some youtube
Two YouTube videos about space as water
I build and design rockets
Let's start with 1
1 and 2 are basically just archimedes principle
It doesn't matter if the body's density is changed or the mediums, the effect is the same
When you add more balloons tou are not changing the density
The combined density of you plus the balloons changes density
Because there is more helium, but also more volume aka balloons
To hold it in
mass divided by volume is density
But it doesn't change
Let's say every one balloon is the same density
If you have 2 balloons the density doesnt change
come on vc
Because mass and volume increase at the same rate
no they don't
I cant now
I DONT MEAN FUNDAMENTALLY
I mean in the example with the balloons
You are about 100kg and you occupy about 0.07 m^3
Each balloon will be n x 0.01 m^3 so for every balloon you add the amount of volume will increase but the amount of mass increase will be smaller and you will reach a threshold where the combined density will be lower than 1.2kg/m^3 at which point you will ascend
Shall we move on to 3 now?
Why would mass be smaller
mass to volume ratio decreases
Each balloon has the same amount of helium
man(100 / 0.07) + n x (0.001 / 0.01)
density = mass / volume
by adding more ballons you are increasing the volume, but the total mass does not increase significantly, in fact the amount of mass you are adding is less than the equivalent amount of mass you would be adding if you added balloons of air.
Ok let's use easier numbers I am lost
One balloon is 3 kilos
man = 100kg mass, 0.07 m^3 volume
n = number of balloons
0.0001kg = mass of balloon full of helium
0.01 m^3 = volume of balloon
so do you concur that were I to attach a sufficient number 'n' of helium balloons to myself, I would ascend, yes?
So mass of one balloon is 0.0001/0.01
I mean density
Density of two balloons is 0.0002/0.02
depends on what sort of balloon you're using, what material, rigid or inflatable
Or simplified the same thing
density of two balloons is 0.0001/0.01 + 0.0001/0.01
which is the same as 0.0002/0.01
The mass increases, not the density.
What's 1/2 + 1/2 ?
You have to do the mass and the volume of the ENTIRE system
The total buoyant force increases, though.
and even forgetting the math it's common sense that volume increases