civil-debate

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2019-02-10 17:58:38 UTC

@Citizen Z Do you ever make an argument without posting dozens of links?

2019-02-10 18:01:16 UTC

@gohan I would be typing for hours

2019-02-10 18:01:28 UTC

@Quorum verified?

2019-02-10 18:01:39 UTC

That's not the info I was getting

2019-02-10 18:02:11 UTC

I mean, like Quorum said, you posted over 200 links, with very little of your own argumentation going on.

2019-02-10 18:02:35 UTC

So?

2019-02-10 18:02:39 UTC

That makes it seem as though you actually have no clue what you're arguing

2019-02-10 18:02:50 UTC

Concerned much?

2019-02-10 18:02:59 UTC

Attack the info?

2019-02-10 18:03:14 UTC

Or you just trying to attack me?

2019-02-10 18:03:23 UTC

You expect people to attack 200 links of info?

2019-02-10 18:03:27 UTC

I'm not attacking you

2019-02-10 18:03:28 UTC

Yes.

2019-02-10 18:03:35 UTC

You actually are.

2019-02-10 18:03:47 UTC

I'm simply stating that your way of arguing isn't conducive to debate

2019-02-10 18:03:47 UTC

Try looking at the info

2019-02-10 18:04:20 UTC

Your opinion. But since I own the server I decide what's civil debate and what isnt.

2019-02-10 18:04:48 UTC

๐Ÿคท

2019-02-10 18:04:51 UTC

If you dont like links. You are free to mute the channel and server

2019-02-10 18:05:08 UTC

Or you are free to leave all together

2019-02-10 18:05:34 UTC

I dont really care. All you're doing is attacking me not challenging the information

2019-02-10 18:05:42 UTC

Gtg.

2019-02-10 18:05:53 UTC

I don't have time to type all dam day

2019-02-10 18:06:06 UTC

Provide one link, and I'll challenge the information. Provide 200, and I'll point out how you're setting unrealistic expectations for debate.

2019-02-10 18:07:11 UTC

It's all necessary. It's not my problem the vaccine debate is to complicated for you.

2019-02-10 18:08:17 UTC

Like I said before. I want the information in the room.

2019-02-10 18:08:37 UTC

What do you care what I post.

2019-02-10 18:09:06 UTC

Sounds like you are scared of the sheer amount of info that could contradict your belief system.

2019-02-10 18:09:08 UTC

You're attacking me now. That doesn't seem very civil.

2019-02-10 18:09:28 UTC

Lol

2019-02-10 18:09:41 UTC

Just stating the obvious.

2019-02-10 18:09:46 UTC

Just as I did

2019-02-10 18:09:55 UTC

And yet one is civil, while the other isn't?

2019-02-10 18:10:57 UTC

Seems civil to me. I never said you weren't being civil. I just said you were ignoring the information and trying deflect from it

2019-02-10 18:11:30 UTC

You are trying to censor the links I put up

2019-02-10 18:11:37 UTC

I can't censor anything

2019-02-10 18:11:50 UTC

Yet you try anyway

2019-02-10 18:12:18 UTC

I'm simply pointing out that your debates would be more productive if you had fewer links, with stronger evidence. People will dismiss it out of hand if you post them en masse

2019-02-10 18:13:13 UTC

Now, I will respond to a few of them soon enough. The only reason I haven't done so yet is because I'm not actually at home, and being on a phone isn't conducive to typing out long rebuttals

2019-02-10 18:13:59 UTC

Listen man, I never said you have to have a rebuttal for anything. You are free to argue any of the links or not.

2019-02-10 18:14:26 UTC

Simply information take it or leave it don't kill the messenger

2019-02-10 18:14:30 UTC

And I'm saying I will, so don't accuse me of being scared, when the truth is that I'm in a car with 20 boxes worth of robotics material.

2019-02-10 18:21:43 UTC

It's not like I'm sitting here jumping up and down declaring victory based off posting links. You were accusing me of no argument when just before that I was commenting on measels

2019-02-10 18:53:44 UTC

Hi, I'm new here, and not trying to interrupt the debate. It just seems like it has taken a lull.

I suggest that for a good civil debate, you should try to find an impartial 3rd party who will observe and enforce some form of protocol. Not offering myself, just offering a suggestion.

2019-02-10 19:16:21 UTC

the protocol is just fine. thanks for your opinion.

2019-02-11 12:35:24 UTC

Can people have perms to post images here?

2019-02-11 13:14:10 UTC

Ill just post it in <#484515645258596369>

2019-02-11 13:14:54 UTC

Nvm, no perms there either

2019-02-11 13:15:51 UTC

I drew a picture of why the star trails diverge from the equatorial star trail, if you wanna see it then just ask

2019-02-11 14:29:21 UTC

ok so one question why are "THEY" lying to us about the flat earth?

2019-02-11 14:33:24 UTC

70 people online and noone has an answer or is it just to early for this lolol

2019-02-11 14:39:34 UTC

Oh god u donโ€™t want to start that

2019-02-11 14:39:38 UTC
2019-02-11 14:39:42 UTC

I got something for u

2019-02-11 14:43:21 UTC

ty

2019-02-11 16:52:42 UTC

Why wouldn't they lie

2019-02-11 16:52:52 UTC

Have you seen the news lately

2019-02-11 20:21:47 UTC

The only news I know is of the government shutdown. I dont watch the news because 1. Boring. 2. Could be yellow journalism. 3. If it's important enough, I'll hear about it without watching the news, like the gov. shutdown.

2019-02-11 20:23:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/544614533268897792/artflow_201902110843.png

2019-02-11 20:24:26 UTC

This is a visualization of the star trails and why they diverge from the equatorial star trail.

2019-02-11 20:25:27 UTC

Thsts not how it would look on a spinning ball

2019-02-11 20:26:42 UTC

How so?

2019-02-11 20:26:50 UTC

It's about the exact same

2019-02-11 20:32:00 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/544616616713912352/artflow_201902110843.png

2019-02-11 20:32:12 UTC

That's how a spinning ball would look

2019-02-11 20:33:06 UTC

If you are looking straight up that's how it would look

2019-02-11 20:41:21 UTC

It's impossible for a curved star strail, like a star trail near a polar star, to be a straight line while far to the left/right of your FOV

2019-02-11 20:42:20 UTC

It's like holding a hula hoop out in front of you vertically and seeing a straight line, then moving it to the right and still seeing a straight line and not an arc towards your middle FOV

2019-02-11 20:44:46 UTC

So we live on a tiny earth?

2019-02-11 20:44:56 UTC

The size of a hula hoop

2019-02-11 20:46:13 UTC

It's an analogy

2019-02-11 20:46:51 UTC

Like, try imagining that image you drew with the straight lines over my image, but with the northern and souther polar stars

2019-02-11 20:47:03 UTC

To the left and right

2019-02-11 20:50:17 UTC

I understand what you are saying I think. Im just picturing what it should look like if looking up 90 degrees from the ground

2019-02-11 20:50:31 UTC

Not sideways just straight up

2019-02-11 20:50:55 UTC

And if you were on the outside of the spinning ball, most the lines should be straight

2019-02-11 20:53:39 UTC

Its impossible to always get straight lines besides near the equator since eventually the lines will have to shrink in size

2019-02-11 20:53:47 UTC

Like this

2019-02-11 20:53:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/544622111852068885/artflow_201902111552.png

2019-02-11 20:54:23 UTC

And become the polar stars and the tiny circles around them, slowly making them circles and not straight lines

2019-02-11 20:56:12 UTC

That middle line represents the star trail at the equator btw

2019-02-11 21:20:12 UTC

I will try to do an experiment

2019-02-11 21:20:28 UTC

Or find other examples

2019-02-11 21:51:38 UTC

so if the earth is flat, how come nobody has ever fallen off the edge?
and if there is an ice wall, how come nobody has ever climbed on top of it?
i feel like these are things that would definitely make new headlines.

2019-02-11 21:51:57 UTC

@MbLeRgh because everyone is playing fortnite

2019-02-11 21:52:08 UTC

hahaha

2019-02-11 21:54:37 UTC

Uh, apparently the government keep people away from the ice wall 24/7

2019-02-11 21:54:51 UTC

Which would be a lot of ships

2019-02-11 21:55:03 UTC

which would probably be even more noticeable

2019-02-11 21:58:14 UTC

I mean they could just say you can't go to Antarctica its off limits and all the companies would suck em off and not go there, or take people there

2019-02-11 21:59:51 UTC

so you are trying to tell me that throughout the entire history of earth, nobody has ever tried to peek over the edge?

2019-02-11 22:00:19 UTC

btw there is no edge, the earth is spherical

2019-02-11 22:01:51 UTC

science tells us this, there have been many experiments to prove this and a couple of hair-brained ideas with meaningless experiments isn't going to disprove the fact that the earth is in fact a sphere

2019-02-11 22:02:37 UTC

the earth is large enough that it may not look like it is round, but we are far too small compared to the size of earth to make that decision just by looking at it from our perspective on the ground

2019-02-12 06:21:09 UTC

Our personalities are overrated

2019-02-12 07:51:08 UTC

?

2019-02-12 13:21:27 UTC

*falls off edge*

2019-02-12 13:29:32 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/544872691300302868/photo-original3.jpg

2019-02-12 16:06:25 UTC

Uh

2019-02-12 16:06:36 UTC

What's the image meant to mean?

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