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It's simple heat flux
Nice try. If the sun was 93 million miles away there would be no seasons.
Why not
We have the tilt of the earths axis to consider
That top image shows the incidence only during teh summer solstice
Prove we are tilted.
find one at the winter solstice
The top image equator wouldnt work
Look at it
Wait one thing at a time
That's only at one point during the year
Yes one thing at a time.
find an equivalent image at the equinox
We're not talking about that, we're talking about if the model makes sense
You equally can't prove the lower image
Prove we are flying and spinning at a tilt.
Well that's a diff conversation
I can prove the lower image
but right now the model makes sense with the seasons
Its emperical observation
You can't prove the lower image
I can say the same for the top one
Empiracal isn't proof
You dont observe that
That's assuming
You don't observe the lower one, show me a picture of that from up high
Oh ok I see how it is
You have an assumption based off a mathematical construct based off ideas created by atheists psychopaths
I would like to apply for moderator
Not a single ounce of the globe can be proven
Is there a form is could fill out?
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You don't understand the heliocentric model if you say seasons dont' make sense
Here this image is better than the one you posted
Empirical observation
We also empiraclly observe the 24 hr sun in antarctica
Have you seen videos from there have been faked?
They are empiracal as much as what you just posted is
No
If you dismiss mine you have to dismiss yours
You cant verify it
I can't?
No
Why not I've been down below the antarctic circle
Its 24 hours of light
Not sun
Yes
The 24 hour sun videos have been proven fakes
Doubt
Look into it.
Oh ok
not verify myself?
just look into it?
shoudl I look into the seasons too?
Yes
Ok I did, i foudn this : https://c.tadst.com/gfx/750x500/seasons.png?1
You can observe the seasons
Empirical
You dont observe a tilt
Why do they not make sense
Makes perfect sense on a globe, matches what we see teh sun doing, flat eaerth does not
On the globe model the northern hemisphere the Sun is closer in the Winter
Farther away in the summer
Yep
and the temp swing between winter and summer is diff in Australia
Yeah that makes no sense
Empirical
What?
Show me an object that cools down as it gets closer to its heat source
The temperature swing (difference) between winter and summer is higher in Australia, b/c their summer occurs when they're closer to the Sun
Summer in Australia happens when the sun gets further away
Its backwards
I can't, but I can show you one that cools down as it gets closer AND as the angle of the incident radiation gets greater
No experiment can show this
"Summer in Australia happens when the sun gets further away" that's 100% wrong
Lol look into it
Ok
Here I'll be right back
here is prove
Perihelion and aphelion
Sun is closest in January, which is summer for Australia
Sun further when Australia has summer
WTF ?
What time of year do you think Australia has summer?
North America further when america has summer
Which is it
You just said two contradictory things
Opposite of the north
No i didnt.
You just said they have summer at the same time
You're not listening
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