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2019-04-21 00:43:50 UTC

going east does not affect your north or south trajectory

2019-04-21 00:43:55 UTC

this is shown on maps

2019-04-21 00:44:00 UTC

itโ€™s like

2019-04-21 00:44:06 UTC

just think about it

2019-04-21 00:44:17 UTC

so when im looking at the sunrise east on an equinox im not really looking east ?

2019-04-21 00:44:21 UTC

If I started in Texas, i would have to go southeast or southwest to reach the equator

2019-04-21 00:44:23 UTC

idk how this is even a debate

2019-04-21 00:44:33 UTC

Or just south

2019-04-21 00:44:36 UTC

if youโ€™re lookingcst the sunrise

2019-04-21 00:44:40 UTC

east on a thing

2019-04-21 00:44:45 UTC

an rquonox

2019-04-21 00:44:47 UTC

equinox ur lookin at a sunrise

2019-04-21 00:44:48 UTC

youโ€™re looking east

2019-04-21 00:44:49 UTC

yes

2019-04-21 00:45:01 UTC

ur looking east at the equator along with everyone else on earth

2019-04-21 00:45:21 UTC

but now ur telling me if i travel in that direction im not gonna hit the equator

2019-04-21 00:45:27 UTC

thats ridiculous

2019-04-21 00:45:31 UTC

Not everyone on earth is at the equator?

2019-04-21 00:45:31 UTC

no

2019-04-21 00:45:32 UTC

ok

2019-04-21 00:45:43 UTC

when youโ€™re looking east from the equinox

2019-04-21 00:45:48 UTC

youโ€™re looking east

2019-04-21 00:45:52 UTC

the sunrise isnโ€™t always east

2019-04-21 00:46:00 UTC

are you talking about the sunrise

2019-04-21 00:46:06 UTC

or just the sub

2019-04-21 00:46:08 UTC

sun

2019-04-21 00:46:09 UTC

You wouldn't have to look towards the equator, everyone looks east

2019-04-21 00:46:15 UTC

because you can be looking east

2019-04-21 00:46:19 UTC

and still see the sunrise

2019-04-21 00:46:34 UTC

doesnโ€™t mean youโ€™re looking toward equator

2019-04-21 00:46:41 UTC

and if youโ€™re looking directly at sun

2019-04-21 00:46:48 UTC

and not on equator

2019-04-21 00:46:53 UTC

have u ever tried this on google earth

2019-04-21 00:46:55 UTC

youโ€™re not looking directly east

2019-04-21 00:46:58 UTC

At the equinox. They think you have to look towards the equator since the sun is above the equator at that time

2019-04-21 00:46:59 UTC

see my logic

2019-04-21 00:47:10 UTC

yeah

2019-04-21 00:47:20 UTC

the sun lines up with the equator

2019-04-21 00:47:44 UTC

alright idk i still think u guys are wrong but

2019-04-21 00:47:46 UTC

And it lines up with everyone else

2019-04-21 00:48:06 UTC

So no matter where you are at, you would look east

2019-04-21 00:48:41 UTC

Except for the poles technically, but that doesn't matter here of course

2019-04-21 00:49:36 UTC

yes so im looking east at the sunrise at the equator

2019-04-21 00:49:55 UTC

mhm

2019-04-21 00:49:56 UTC

yes

2019-04-21 00:49:59 UTC

actually

2019-04-21 00:50:07 UTC

the sunrise isnโ€™t exactly east from equator

2019-04-21 00:50:12 UTC

the earth is tileted

2019-04-21 00:50:16 UTC

23 degrees

2019-04-21 00:50:26 UTC

so that in itself is technically wrong

2019-04-21 00:50:52 UTC

everyone looking east sees the sunrise

2019-04-21 00:50:57 UTC

lol nevermind

2019-04-21 00:51:20 UTC

you see the sunrise but not directly at the sun

2019-04-21 00:51:22 UTC

true

2019-04-21 00:51:30 UTC

what do u mean not directly at the sun

2019-04-21 00:51:50 UTC

u look east u see the sun rising

2019-04-21 00:51:55 UTC

wow nevermind

2019-04-21 00:52:17 UTC

just forget it cause i cant get why its so hard to understand so maybe its just me

2019-04-21 00:52:48 UTC

maybe.0

2019-04-21 00:52:55 UTC

sorry iโ€™m not getting your logic

2019-04-21 00:53:05 UTC

or you mine

2019-04-21 00:53:30 UTC

its just what happens the sun rises at teh equator on the equinox u are looking east the sun is east

2019-04-21 00:53:48 UTC

ur looking east at the equator

2019-04-21 00:54:02 UTC

I liked the shooting example, where rifles are aimed at the sun, one in the north, one at the equator, one in the south, they all shoot at the sun.

2019-04-21 00:54:30 UTC

Since the sun is rising east for each of them, they are all parallel

2019-04-21 00:54:40 UTC

brb

2019-04-21 00:54:47 UTC

well

2019-04-21 00:54:49 UTC

actually

2019-04-21 00:54:59 UTC

where north?

2019-04-21 00:55:03 UTC

the north pole

2019-04-21 00:55:06 UTC

?

2019-04-21 00:55:32 UTC

It appears the sun is in different places at once in that scenario. Or it is just so far according to the model that the lines are very near parallel.

2019-04-21 00:55:47 UTC

But meet in millions of miles

2019-04-21 00:56:21 UTC

i feel like if u do this on google earth and draw lines all the lines lead to the equator

2019-04-21 00:56:26 UTC

ive seen it done

2019-04-21 00:56:38 UTC

so

2019-04-21 00:56:55 UTC

do u want me to find the video of someone doing this on google earth ?

2019-04-21 00:56:58 UTC

But the sun is supposedly 93 million miles out, so it would be far out away from earth

2019-04-21 00:57:08 UTC

Not just right above the equator

2019-04-21 00:57:19 UTC

do it in google earth ill brb

2019-04-21 00:57:35 UTC

There was a video on this

2019-04-21 00:57:42 UTC

I'll look for it

2019-04-21 01:01:36 UTC

This illustrates it well;
https://youtu.be/822oDc3_9AQ
Start at about 3:05

2019-04-21 01:31:10 UTC

either way that didnt make a proof for flat or globe earth i was just wondering idk im hearing different things about it

2019-04-21 01:33:40 UTC

It makes more sense on a Globe, but I guess we don't really know how the skies all work, it depends on numerous assumptions.

2019-04-21 01:35:19 UTC

wanna talk about the south pole and north pole being opposite climataes

2019-04-21 01:35:50 UTC

even though the south pole during its summer the sun is 3 million miles closer to earth

2019-04-21 01:37:30 UTC

Probably something to do with much of Antarctica being on a landmass at higher altitudes, nearer to the lower pressure where temperature decreases

2019-04-21 01:37:32 UTC

they say its like that because of the elevation but its only elevated so high because of ice

2019-04-21 01:37:46 UTC

yes its a higher altitude because of the ice

2019-04-21 01:38:14 UTC

Although land at the South Pole is only about a hundred meters above sea level, the ice sheet above it is roughly 2,700 meters (9,000 feet) thick. This elevation makes the South Pole much colder than the North Pole, which sits in the middle of the Arctic Ocean

2019-04-21 01:38:28 UTC

so ?

2019-04-21 01:38:33 UTC

howd that happen

2019-04-21 01:39:58 UTC

It is on land supposedly, while the Arctic isn't

2019-04-21 01:41:18 UTC

eh idk

2019-04-21 01:42:19 UTC

its a good excuse

2019-04-21 01:42:42 UTC

kinda

2019-04-21 01:43:17 UTC

Excuse?
What conclusion do you think they are trying to avoid?

2019-04-21 01:44:04 UTC

idk

2019-04-21 01:45:22 UTC

There are conspiracy theories surrounding Antarctica, from aliens to flat earth.
But it seems like this dilemma would apply regardless of the earth's shape.

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