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@The Gwench don't tell me what to do or say, please, keep it to yourself
@Samwise Thatโs exactly what I just said...keep it to yourself.
The moon last night, I took it the picture with my potato phone camera
Quick question about the moon...in the globe model, the sun shines on the moon causing it to reflect light, that's why we see it shining...in the fe model, according to z, the sun and moon are small and local to the earth, meaning that the sun and moon orbit the earth, so what causes the moon to shine if both objects are orbiting together...
Apparently the moon shines itself @Samwise
Oh
But it's much duller than the sun
A mini dwarf star then?
Ok sure
Overgeneralisation
Leads to the Halo affect
Selective observation
Ego involvement
Hey
Nat
Wassup
Not much
It's your friendly neighborhood coward
Oof
Is that Deadpool Pikachu?
I have returned
Z was right
Pika pool if you please
Z... was... right?
Once all the FE were kicked FEO started dying, Gazor put in a bot that advertises the server so we get people coming in but no FE who are willing to knock them down
Far fewer bans nowadays though... Probably because no one argues
We need FE
Yeah true
But this isn't a debate server anymore
Yeah I just checked out the rules
Tag yourself I'm Amazon troll, because I immediately started talking bad about FEO...
We're not
The simple thing is, the mod abuse was keeping it alive
But this is Z's server so we should respect his regime
Yeah I don't want to start trouble
Me too
Just showing that I read the new rules
I read them up, down, left right and centre
Is Kevin here anymore? I've always just seen him and this server as a unit
Yes
@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS It is great to see you back.
@Samwise Your pic of the moon is great. ๐๐ผ
Speaking of the moon, I would like you to look into the Selenilion Eclipse of the moon.
I would like your serious thought into how this is even possible. I will provide you with a video.
https://youtu.be/qOExlVNN2yY
Atmospheric refraction
A process where objects in the sky look higher in the sky than they are
Also the moon and sun are roughly opposite each other at that specific point, so that's why it's possible
Also it gives the location as los Alamos new Mexico
North of Santa Fe
It's elevation is 2231 metres above sea level
So you have a high vantage point
@Samwise Your theory is interesting indeed. However, can you please provide an explanation for why the shadow moves over the moon starting from the top? If the sun is located at the opposite horizon, the shadow should start from the bottom.
Not exactly
If you look you'll see that the moon isn't full
It's eclipsed with three quarters of the visible surface facing the earth
Remember the moon orbits the earth, it also is influenced by the sun, depending on how much light is facing it
So yeah
Particles in the atmosphere tend to distort stuff
I don't know if you know about the salt planes in Namibia?
No I do not.
It was a large lake that dried up leaving behind a dry, plane
The wind would pick up huge amounts of dust particles into the atmosphere
It creates a magnifying affect
I've been there when I was like 13
The moon was huuuuuuuuuge
That still doesnโt explain why the shadow moves down over the moon instead of upwards.
I do have a question for the FE community: whats your explanation for tides?
It's supposed to do that gwen
@Mr Orb โญ The explanation for that is very scientific. I am not your best one to be asking that question. Something about electromagnetic energy.
Electromagnetic energy? On tides?
I learnt something
Ohhhhj
It's the earth's umbra
You are seeing the earth's shadow gwen
@Samwise No Sam. In a Selenilion eclipse, the sun is always on the opposite horizon as the moon. It is impossible for the shadow to move downwards.
It's the earth's shadow
You see
@Samwise Itโs obvious my questions are over your head. I will have to ask someone else then.
It's also called a horizontal eclipse
Gwen you are being condescending now
This is over
No. Iโm not. You are. Telling me itโs the earths shadow. That has to be the most idiotic scientific explanation Iโve ever come across.
Umbra, penumbra and antumbra
The selenelion only occurs just before sunset or after sunrise
Both the moon and sun are roughly opposite each other
Atmospheric refraction causes the perceived height difference
The moon is in Earth's umbra
This causes a Horizontal eclipse, which is why you are seeing the shadow go like that
Maybe if you had the faintest scientific knowledge you'd understand what I'm saying before you elevate yourself
Itโs obvious you are unable to explain why the shadow moves downward instead of upwards like it should.
Dont umbra penumbra multiple layers if shadow only happen with multiple light sources or if the light reflects off something? What could cause the penumbra other than the firmament bouncing light rays?
@Deleted User Hey ๐. Itโs great to see you here. ๐
Hello
Help me out here. This guy refuses to explain why the shadow on a Selenilion eclipse travels downward over the moon. I would like to know how his globe model can explain it. Heโs not doing a very good job Iโm afraid. ๐
Lel I give up
Do you know what vertical and horizontal means?
@Samwise The fact that you feel you need to ask me a stupid question like that tells me that you canโt answer my question. Donโt divert the conversation.
If you canโt explain it, then just freaking say so. ๐
I'm not
A selenilion is also called a horizontal eclipse
Don't forget that atmospheric refraction is the only reason why it's possible to observe
Yes meaning the shadow is moving perpendicular to the movement of a normal eclipse.
Ok
Maybe you're right, I mean if you think electromagnetic energy has anything to do with tides then yes I'm completely wrong and I accept your theory
Iโm going back to bed. Iโll give you time to come up with an explanation for your globe model.
My question is:
Why does the shadow travel downwards over the moon, when logically, the shadow should travel upwards over the moon?
I won't explain anything
Because
Goodnight btw
I understand. You wonโt explain because you canโt. Got it. ๐๐ผ
I can
But I won't explain to you
@Samwise Sure Sam. Thatโs it. Wonโt explain to me. Everyone here sees that you donโt effing know. ๐
Okay thanks
๐
You know what is funny, is that if said those things you said to me to you, you would have banned me, just keep in mind that when I talk here I have to withhold myself and tread carefully around you. Because well, lots of people know why
i think if you want to figure it out, the easiest way would be to construct a 3d model of the 3 bodies
See what actually happens
why do i have globe role?
Are you a flat earther?
i am undecided
No true flat earther can be undecided, therefore youโre a glober
not really
I can see how we've all been lied to but i'm not sure about the flat earth version either
How have we all been lied to?
Whatโs to gain
to hide the truth about the Lord and his creation
How does saying the earth is round accomplish this?
Wouldnโt burning bibles and destroying manuscripts work better?
Banning religion even
Whatโs the shape of the earth got to do with god?
I don't have time to go into it right now sorry
Okay
<@&484512215764828162> can you update my roles? idk why i have mainstream and globe
Are you sandwich earth now??
<@&508437171611631626>
Take a look at how tides actually work. These are also know as tidal nodes.
Is it possible things like magnetohydrodynamics plays a part? I think its an interesting concept.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromic_point
https://www.plasma-universe.com/Magnetohydrodynamics
https://youtu.be/swrK1qJHUYg
Leaving aside that these are from Satellite based technology from NASA, we will need to use this as an approximation.
This has a record of numerous amphidromic points, which are points of zero amplitude, and so show no tide. That would be the dark blue zones where the lines meet. The arrows around them show their rotation.
It becomes quickly apparent that there is no static tides over the oceans as predicted by Newtonian Mechanics, but rather there are rotations of bulges of water points, while large tides are located in random places out away from the zero amplitude tides.
With the normal unit vector n for the water molecules pointing towards the moon which attracts the waters, there is expected to be a uniform concentration of the bulge of water as predicted by Newtonian Mechanics. But as we can see, there is not.
One point brought up with the equilibrium theory of tides is that the Earth rotates beneath the tidal bulge from the moon and the coriolis effect deflects the path of the water and it forms a rotation over a point where the high tides are all away from.
However, it is quite clear from the data that this is not the case, as the rotation doesn't match the coriolis rotation of the specific hemispheres, and there are amphidromic points at the equator as well. When the Coriolis effect at the equator with F=2Vฮฉsin A and the equator being at sinA=sin0ยฐ=0, means that there is F = 0, no coriolis force in the standard model at the equator while amphidromic points are located there. So, this clearly points to a failed attempt by the equilibrium theory.
There simply is no success in the Newtonian Gravity model of tides, it fails to match reality.
Therefore, the tides make a paradox with the contemporary model of the Earth. @Mr Orb โญ
phosphorescence in celestite 254 nm (sw) https://www.fluomin.org/imagefluo/CELESTITEoc.jpg
The moon is lit due to reflection
If it was due to phosphorescence then there wouldnโt be phases
It would be a full moon all the time
Flat floor craters are not possible to be created by impacts
Everyone knows the contemporary model
We dont need to rehash it every second
If you dont have any alternative thought or info. Dont bother posting here
Posting information about teslas fluorescence or pictures of phosphorescense in celestite is only to explore the ideas. No one is claiming its 100 percent the reason the moon lights the way it does.
Have some imagination and creativity apart from just repeating everything you have been force fed in government propaganda centers
Nobody told me what I just said about the phases
Thatโs just observable
But Iโll keep it to the debate channels
Didnโt know this wasnโt one
There is no debate channels here
@no one We arenโt here to debate. We are here to share ideas and discuss him. Of course you are welcome to disagree without arguing. ๐๐ผ
Oh
Okay
I wasnโt trying to debate
Ok. Thatโs good. ๐
Just pointing out the phases
The stupid thing is you responsed sp quickly. You didnt even read 5 % of what i have posted in the past 20 min
You should read some of
Citizen is trying to have everyone look at Teslaโs theory on fluorescence. What do you think?
I don't mind if they dont read it
Their loss
Im just compiling info
So it can be searchable
For later
By anyone
Electricity seems to play a big part in many things
@Citizen Z why do i have globe role?
@BurritoPlanet You have chosen the **Undecided Earth Model** role. Please provide 3 reasons that have caused you to question the globe Earth model.
@BurritoPlanet you are a globe earther
Ive never seen you question the globe
Thats neat
-No curvature observed
-Clear editing in space footage
-Hot spots from the sun
Ok there ya go
Maybe this is why purple is such an attractive color to many
๐
I like looking a Tesla stuff ๐
Has anyone seen the Tesla tower that has been constructed
A company called viziv technologiesย has built one
Timestamp 50:35
Electromagnetic induction
You can choose to look away but you can never say you dont know again.
They have created a world of fakeness
The eyes are useless when the mind is blind
Hey Z
Hello
How have you been?
Good thx. You?
Pretty good, been busy with life stuff though
Nice
You found any interesting new theories?
Just looking at the wildfires
Found that it could be possible they use the electric grid and power lines to actually burn a structure down
The electrical grid used to run with magnetic induction
They have been changing it so all metal is touching
So the electrical system in your house actually directly connects with high voltage lines
Which is more expensive
More dangerous
And causes much more interference
So the reasons they do this is currently a mystery
Cool
Well not cool, interesting
Posted some videos around here somewhere if you are interested
hmm
I remember reading about a time travel device
Let me go look it up. Iโll be right back
The hyper-dimensional resonator
I saw it on a forum dedicated to time travel, interesting thing
Yibbiddy, yibbiddy, yibbiddy.
Theodolites https://youtu.be/q1sxok09Gb8
Well first there is the manufacturers own specs. You can get off their websites
Comparative study of accuracy in distance measurement using: Optical and digital levels
That PDF is the owners manual for the 600M one
Notice it says 100lux
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