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2018-10-16 05:22:24 UTC

well

2018-10-16 05:22:26 UTC

you can remain in the dark and think you understand how the world operates, but meanwhile NASA will continue to tell you lies and in another 50 years guess how far we are going to get in space?

2018-10-16 05:22:26 UTC

its NZ

2018-10-16 05:22:36 UTC

who cares nat

2018-10-16 05:22:40 UTC

no where, we are going to make absolutely no progress in space, because no one can go there

2018-10-16 05:22:47 UTC

its as fake as santa clause

2018-10-16 05:22:49 UTC

figt me peeper

2018-10-16 05:22:59 UTC

@^Kevin^ Santa is real

2018-10-16 05:23:15 UTC

when are you going to grow up and throw away childish things?

2018-10-16 05:23:16 UTC

You don't understand the answers that's all you don't have to be angry and believe lies because of it

2018-10-16 05:23:33 UTC

Peace

2018-10-16 05:23:33 UTC

πŸ˜‚

2018-10-16 05:23:39 UTC

rockets don't work in a vacuum, they have nothing to propel off of

2018-10-16 05:23:43 UTC

no u

2018-10-16 05:23:46 UTC

rig

2018-10-16 05:23:54 UTC

bite me nat

2018-10-16 05:24:05 UTC

kinky

2018-10-16 05:24:10 UTC

@The Rig i was joking wtf lol

2018-10-16 05:24:21 UTC

😁 😜

2018-10-16 05:24:30 UTC

So was I πŸ˜‚

2018-10-16 05:24:42 UTC

Its raining flakes of snow

2018-10-16 05:24:46 UTC

😁

2018-10-16 05:25:56 UTC

fan won't push stuff in a vacuum, just like a rocket won't propel anything (in vacuum)

2018-10-16 05:26:14 UTC

kevin, i am curious, can you draw a diagram how you think rockets work and proell things?

2018-10-16 05:26:40 UTC

Ur comparing oranges and apples @^Kevin^

2018-10-16 05:26:41 UTC

you have nitrogen and oxygen in atmosphere, they work well in our environment

2018-10-16 05:27:06 UTC

rockets work well in our environment, if they could actually go to space, which they can't, they wouldn't work

2018-10-16 05:27:32 UTC

i want to see your diagram of how rockets propell things

2018-10-16 05:27:48 UTC

Show us a thruster doing precision maneuvers in a vacuum chamber

2018-10-16 05:28:01 UTC

Star wars

2018-10-16 05:28:03 UTC

Then we will be believe

2018-10-16 05:28:14 UTC

Believe!!!

2018-10-16 05:28:16 UTC

Until then we pass on the sun cult

2018-10-16 05:28:24 UTC

<:coolsun:485147409903517696>

2018-10-16 05:28:31 UTC

It's a gang

2018-10-16 05:28:36 UTC

i am not trying to convince you, i am just curious how you think rockets propel things

2018-10-16 05:28:38 UTC

Gang of theives

2018-10-16 05:28:47 UTC

πŸ˜‚

2018-10-16 05:29:06 UTC

Rockets propel things using newtons 3rd law

2018-10-16 05:29:20 UTC

yes

2018-10-16 05:29:20 UTC

Now show me the tech =)

2018-10-16 05:29:29 UTC

Us globies robbing flatties in the street straight up

2018-10-16 05:29:30 UTC

for what reason?

2018-10-16 05:29:35 UTC

Show me the continuity of our rocket technologies history

2018-10-16 05:29:42 UTC

i want to see your diagram Z

2018-10-16 05:30:04 UTC

If you want to make me sun worshiper

2018-10-16 05:30:14 UTC

Show me some evidence

2018-10-16 05:30:19 UTC

In space, rockets zoom around with no air to push against. What's going on?

Rockets and engines in space behave according to Isaac Newton's third law of motion: Every action produces an equal and opposite reaction.

When a rocket shoots fuel out one end, this propels the rocket forward β€” no air is required.

NASA says this principle is easy to observe on Earth. If you stand on a skateboard and throw a bowling ball forward, that force will push you and the skateboard back. However, because your weight on the skateboard is heavier than that of the bowling ball, you won't move as far.

2018-10-16 05:30:26 UTC

so lets debunk this garbage

2018-10-16 05:30:28 UTC

i am not trying, i just want to see how you think

2018-10-16 05:30:40 UTC

your not standing on a skateboard when you turn on your rockets in space

2018-10-16 05:30:47 UTC

Z you can find that yourself that's not hard.. The history of rockets is no conspiracy

2018-10-16 05:30:58 UTC

Hello

2018-10-16 05:31:00 UTC

you have nothing to push you anywhere, its like standing on ice and throwing a bowling ball

2018-10-16 05:31:11 UTC
2018-10-16 05:31:20 UTC

Hello

2018-10-16 05:31:20 UTC

soldz?

2018-10-16 05:31:21 UTC

you might fall down, but your not moving because you threw a bowling ball

2018-10-16 05:31:26 UTC

Hello Goopy

2018-10-16 05:31:28 UTC

huh

2018-10-16 05:31:31 UTC

Kevin, how does a rock propel forward

2018-10-16 05:31:36 UTC

<:smart:484956754489376781>

2018-10-16 05:31:40 UTC

thrust

2018-10-16 05:31:46 UTC

<:smart:484956754489376781>

2018-10-16 05:31:47 UTC

@DrPeper flaps it's wings

2018-10-16 05:31:51 UTC

tru

2018-10-16 05:31:56 UTC

damn, didnt think of that

2018-10-16 05:32:03 UTC

Whats the topic

2018-10-16 05:32:10 UTC

Hopefully about our lovely flat earth

2018-10-16 05:32:25 UTC

Lolz

2018-10-16 05:32:29 UTC

wanna check out <#484515890759729182> ?

2018-10-16 05:32:33 UTC

Yea

2018-10-16 05:32:50 UTC

rocks don't move under their own power

2018-10-16 05:33:01 UTC

you might throw a rock, but that is you causing it to move

2018-10-16 05:33:02 UTC

well, there is a 1000 page book on the history of liquid fuel rockets

2018-10-16 05:33:11 UTC

kinetic force applied to the rock

2018-10-16 05:33:27 UTC

yes, i understand how a rock is thrown

2018-10-16 05:33:35 UTC

that won't work with a rocket

2018-10-16 05:33:46 UTC

you can't throw a rocket in space

2018-10-16 05:34:11 UTC

kevin, how does a rocket move forward on earth

2018-10-16 05:34:35 UTC

it propels stuff out the back from an ignition that propels it forward

2018-10-16 05:34:44 UTC

propellant

2018-10-16 05:35:08 UTC

its pushing off the the ground or atmosphere to create that propellant

2018-10-16 05:35:08 UTC

so, the force of the propellant leaving the rocket pushes it forward?

2018-10-16 05:35:13 UTC

its like a swimmer in water

2018-10-16 05:35:23 UTC

you put a swimmer in air or vacuum, they can't swim

2018-10-16 05:35:30 UTC

you put a rocket in water or vacuum, it doesn't work

2018-10-16 05:35:42 UTC

a rocket can work in water

2018-10-16 05:35:55 UTC

um, not very well

2018-10-16 05:36:06 UTC

ummm, why do you think subs carry ballistic missiles

2018-10-16 05:36:31 UTC

well, they are designed to work in water

2018-10-16 05:36:34 UTC

i mean torpedo's are usually used for a reason

2018-10-16 05:36:48 UTC

torpedo's usually aren't rockets, they are designed to work in water

2018-10-16 05:36:52 UTC

Subs carry ICBMs goopy

2018-10-16 05:37:17 UTC

you dont launch an ICBM underwater, but at the surface

2018-10-16 05:37:24 UTC

those don't fly under water, ICBM's are fired by a sub going topside and firing them from the surface of the water

2018-10-16 05:37:37 UTC

Jinx

2018-10-16 05:37:42 UTC

no, subs dont surface to lanch anymore

2018-10-16 05:38:08 UTC

<:ohheck:485078351162376202>

2018-10-16 05:38:19 UTC
2018-10-16 05:38:41 UTC

the rocket turns on outside of the water tho

2018-10-16 05:38:51 UTC

its ejected from the water

2018-10-16 05:38:51 UTC

the 2nd staage

2018-10-16 05:38:54 UTC

anyhows, we are missing the point

2018-10-16 05:39:03 UTC

rockets don't work in vacuum

2018-10-16 05:39:10 UTC

how do you think it gets above the water goopy

2018-10-16 05:39:28 UTC

kevvvvv long time no see

2018-10-16 05:39:40 UTC

yo

2018-10-16 05:39:54 UTC

are yall talking about missiles?

2018-10-16 05:40:12 UTC

you have someone with a master's degree in technical physics telling you rockets don't work in a vacuum

2018-10-16 05:40:16 UTC

then he shows you an example

2018-10-16 05:40:31 UTC

I show you a fan that doesn't move toilet paper in a vacuum

2018-10-16 05:40:47 UTC

how do you think propellant is going to propel the rocket anywhere with nothing to push off of?

2018-10-16 05:41:02 UTC

*i wont spoil*

2018-10-16 05:41:10 UTC

i am just laughing you think a fan and a rocket are the same thing

2018-10-16 05:41:31 UTC

fan moves stuff in atmosphere

2018-10-16 05:41:34 UTC

not in a vacuum

2018-10-16 05:41:41 UTC

no, fucking, shit

2018-10-16 05:41:42 UTC

won't move a feather in a vacuum

2018-10-16 05:41:47 UTC

just like a rocket

2018-10-16 05:41:57 UTC

ground breaking discovery, fans cant push nothing

2018-10-16 05:41:58 UTC

rocket will move stuff in atmosphere, not in a vacuum

2018-10-16 05:42:05 UTC

neither can rockets

2018-10-16 05:42:15 UTC

fan = rocket?

2018-10-16 05:42:19 UTC

somehow

2018-10-16 05:42:34 UTC

oh shoot

2018-10-16 05:42:34 UTC

when it comes to pushing stuff using atmosphere, they are comparable

2018-10-16 05:42:42 UTC

nope, but you dont care

2018-10-16 05:42:54 UTC

i thought kevin was going to then come back and demonstrate newton's 3rd law XD

2018-10-16 05:43:06 UTC

i thought he was ge xd

2018-10-16 05:43:21 UTC

ha, you think kevin has an actual arguement and has logic

2018-10-16 05:43:33 UTC

newton's 3rd law doesn't work in a vacuum

2018-10-16 05:43:37 UTC

it does

2018-10-16 05:43:50 UTC

it doesnt require a medium

2018-10-16 05:43:54 UTC

its a universal law

2018-10-16 05:43:59 UTC

it does require a medium

2018-10-16 05:44:02 UTC

nope

2018-10-16 05:44:17 UTC

how does a rocket work kevin?

2018-10-16 05:44:19 UTC

he doesnt understand that the rocket is pushing against the combustion chamber

2018-10-16 05:44:49 UTC

again, not like he actually cares

2018-10-16 05:45:42 UTC

the amount of surface its pushing to move the rocket isn't enough to make it significantly move anywhere

2018-10-16 05:45:46 UTC

hi

2018-10-16 05:45:51 UTC

hi lemon

2018-10-16 05:46:07 UTC

*looks at newton's 3rd law and its lack of mention of surface area*

2018-10-16 05:46:18 UTC

when life gives you lemons, shove it down your enemy's throat and watch them choke and die.

2018-10-16 05:46:28 UTC

are we discussing rockets in a medium?

2018-10-16 05:46:34 UTC

yep

2018-10-16 05:46:39 UTC

we are discussing rockets in vacuum

2018-10-16 05:46:48 UTC

so?

2018-10-16 05:47:19 UTC

what

2018-10-16 05:47:21 UTC

3

2018-10-16 05:47:27 UTC

whats the problem?

2018-10-16 05:47:31 UTC

its effectively a moot point anyhows because there is no space, there is no vacuum

2018-10-16 05:47:39 UTC

its a fairy tale that doesn't exist

2018-10-16 05:47:43 UTC

oh i see

2018-10-16 05:47:54 UTC

hey kevin, you a flat earther too?

2018-10-16 05:47:55 UTC

above the firmament is water

2018-10-16 05:47:58 UTC

yes

2018-10-16 05:48:00 UTC

ah yes, this beutiful chain of logic

2018-10-16 05:48:02 UTC

cool

2018-10-16 05:48:11 UTC

can i ask you something?

2018-10-16 05:48:11 UTC

losing an arguemnt so say it doesnt matter

2018-10-16 05:48:33 UTC

wait a sec, kev doesn't believe in space and the vacuum

2018-10-16 05:48:41 UTC

he thinks there's water above the firmament

2018-10-16 05:48:50 UTC

but sake of argument rockets don't work in a vacuum, newton's 3rd law of a reaction causes an equal and opposite reaction doesn't work in a vacuum

2018-10-16 05:48:51 UTC

dont gang up on him

2018-10-16 05:49:01 UTC

how are we ganging up on him?

2018-10-16 05:49:05 UTC

kevin why doesnt it work in a vacuum?

2018-10-16 05:49:15 UTC

1v1 is ganging up πŸ€”

2018-10-16 05:49:19 UTC

ive handled far more many people with saner logic

2018-10-16 05:49:26 UTC

no its you dumblebore and goopy

2018-10-16 05:49:30 UTC

uh

2018-10-16 05:49:34 UTC

oh don't bother with me

2018-10-16 05:49:44 UTC

it's just those two

2018-10-16 05:49:49 UTC

you have nothing to push off of

2018-10-16 05:49:53 UTC

*im watching*

2018-10-16 05:50:18 UTC

you throwing gas into the vacuum causes no movement, it just puts gas into part of the vacuum

2018-10-16 05:50:22 UTC

*looks at the combustion chamber and its distinct somethingness*

2018-10-16 05:50:25 UTC

nothing happens, rocket doesn't move

2018-10-16 05:51:09 UTC

what causes thrust then

2018-10-16 05:51:17 UTC

thrust is caused in atmosphere

2018-10-16 05:51:27 UTC

GOD causes thrust

2018-10-16 05:51:27 UTC

no thrust = no movement of the rocket

2018-10-16 05:52:07 UTC

rocket works in atmosphere because it has stuff to push off of and its designed to work in this medium

2018-10-16 05:52:13 UTC

it doesn't work in a vacuum

2018-10-16 05:52:15 UTC

let me try to simplify everything, gas coming out of the chamber has to hit a medium to be propelled?

2018-10-16 05:52:51 UTC

it has to push off of nitrogen gas and stuff it finds in the atmosphere

2018-10-16 05:52:58 UTC

or the ground

2018-10-16 05:53:10 UTC

hmm, you know propellers right?

2018-10-16 05:53:16 UTC

with nothing to push off of, its not going to propel itself forward

2018-10-16 05:53:17 UTC

how does the force from pushing off the air go to the rocket?

2018-10-16 05:53:18 UTC

they push air

2018-10-16 05:53:58 UTC

propellers are moving air around to create lift

2018-10-16 05:54:04 UTC

yes

2018-10-16 05:54:06 UTC

or propel a submarine in water

2018-10-16 05:54:10 UTC

the usually pull the aircraft through the air

2018-10-16 05:54:15 UTC

because it has a medium to push

2018-10-16 05:54:31 UTC

they aren't going to work in a vacuum either

2018-10-16 05:54:45 UTC

because there is no medium

2018-10-16 05:54:47 UTC

a prollor on a ship pushes the water

2018-10-16 05:54:51 UTC

exactly

2018-10-16 05:54:52 UTC

yep

2018-10-16 05:54:54 UTC

well, rockets use a different way to propel themselves

2018-10-16 05:55:20 UTC

not significantly different enough to push itself in a vacuum

2018-10-16 05:55:24 UTC

a propeller requires a medium to push in order to create lift

2018-10-16 05:55:37 UTC

you need to be traveling by some other method, like light sails or something that works in that medium

2018-10-16 05:55:49 UTC

you know that flies cannot fly in a vacuum

2018-10-16 05:55:55 UTC

when you eject alot of stuff very quickly through a small area is creates thrust

2018-10-16 05:55:58 UTC

someone put flies in a vacuum and tested it

2018-10-16 05:56:03 UTC

it didnt fly

2018-10-16 05:56:04 UTC

🍿

2018-10-16 05:56:24 UTC

appearantly they can survive but they cannot fly without enough atmosphere

2018-10-16 05:56:31 UTC

rockets dont use wings or propellors though

2018-10-16 05:56:52 UTC

its a 3rd way to generate kinetic energy

2018-10-16 05:56:58 UTC

rockets have some stabalizors

2018-10-16 05:57:17 UTC

they aren't flapping wings though which would create lift

2018-10-16 05:57:40 UTC

...

2018-10-16 05:58:00 UTC

we can't survive in a vacuum too

2018-10-16 05:58:12 UTC

mind if i do a quick run through on rockets and you tell me what you find wrong kevin?

2018-10-16 05:58:20 UTC

go ahead

2018-10-16 05:58:23 UTC

alright

2018-10-16 05:58:41 UTC

we know how propellers work, by pushing air or another medium

2018-10-16 05:58:51 UTC

but rockets use a different method to generate thrust

2018-10-16 05:59:34 UTC

they do this by ejecting extremely hot pressurized gasses through a small opening

2018-10-16 06:00:13 UTC

the reason it goes through the small opening is so it has a higher pressure inside the fuel tank

2018-10-16 06:00:30 UTC

which in turn ejects the material extremely fast outward

2018-10-16 06:02:07 UTC

now, newtons's 3rd law states any reaction has an equal and opposite reaction, meaning when the gasses are ejected backward, the rocket is ejected forward. once the gas leaves the nozzle its useless and serves no other purpose.

2018-10-16 06:03:14 UTC

welcome to reality

2018-10-16 06:03:24 UTC

air only slows rockets down because of air resistance, in a vacuum the gasses would eject faster and there would be no air resistance, only helping the rocket

2018-10-16 06:04:14 UTC

any problems you've thought of?

2018-10-16 06:04:30 UTC

yes, rockets need something to push off of

2018-10-16 06:04:35 UTC

its a propellant

2018-10-16 06:04:36 UTC

i explained that yes

2018-10-16 06:05:09 UTC

it propels something forward by pushing off something

2018-10-16 06:05:17 UTC

yep

2018-10-16 06:05:24 UTC

there isn't enough surface area to propel the rocket forward with nothing to push off of

2018-10-16 06:05:35 UTC

it pushes off of the fuel coming out of the nozzle

2018-10-16 06:05:52 UTC

just like in this latest video the air balloon will not move the car in a vacuum

2018-10-16 06:06:07 UTC

propellant of the air won't push it forward just like a rocket won't

2018-10-16 06:06:33 UTC

are you comparing blowing air to push a car to a rocket?

2018-10-16 06:06:33 UTC

look at latest video

2018-10-16 06:07:09 UTC

I'm comparing stuff that works in atmosphere that doesn't work in a vacuum

2018-10-16 06:07:22 UTC

both throwing stuff out the back end to push it forward

2018-10-16 06:07:54 UTC

(propellant)

2018-10-16 06:08:03 UTC

a vacuum is one of the lightest things out there, so a helium balloon wouldn't float

2018-10-16 06:08:04 UTC

and both are gas in nature

2018-10-16 06:08:16 UTC

a drone wont fly because there is no medium

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