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you can remain in the dark and think you understand how the world operates, but meanwhile NASA will continue to tell you lies and in another 50 years guess how far we are going to get in space?
who cares nat
no where, we are going to make absolutely no progress in space, because no one can go there
its as fake as santa clause
figt me peeper
when are you going to grow up and throw away childish things?
You don't understand the answers that's all you don't have to be angry and believe lies because of it
rockets don't work in a vacuum, they have nothing to propel off of
bite me nat
So was I 😂
Its raining flakes of snow
fan won't push stuff in a vacuum, just like a rocket won't propel anything (in vacuum)
kevin, i am curious, can you draw a diagram how you think rockets work and proell things?
you have nitrogen and oxygen in atmosphere, they work well in our environment
rockets work well in our environment, if they could actually go to space, which they can't, they wouldn't work
i want to see your diagram of how rockets propell things
Show us a thruster doing precision maneuvers in a vacuum chamber
Then we will be believe
Until then we pass on the sun cult
It's a gang
i am not trying to convince you, i am just curious how you think rockets propel things
Gang of theives
Rockets propel things using newtons 3rd law
Now show me the tech =)
Us globies robbing flatties in the street straight up
for what reason?
Show me the continuity of our rocket technologies history
i want to see your diagram Z
If you want to make me sun worshiper
Show me some evidence
In space, rockets zoom around with no air to push against. What's going on?
Rockets and engines in space behave according to Isaac Newton's third law of motion: Every action produces an equal and opposite reaction.
When a rocket shoots fuel out one end, this propels the rocket forward — no air is required.
NASA says this principle is easy to observe on Earth. If you stand on a skateboard and throw a bowling ball forward, that force will push you and the skateboard back. However, because your weight on the skateboard is heavier than that of the bowling ball, you won't move as far.
so lets debunk this garbage
i am not trying, i just want to see how you think
your not standing on a skateboard when you turn on your rockets in space
Z you can find that yourself that's not hard.. The history of rockets is no conspiracy
you have nothing to push you anywhere, its like standing on ice and throwing a bowling ball
you might fall down, but your not moving because you threw a bowling ball
Kevin, how does a rock propel forward
damn, didnt think of that
Whats the topic
Hopefully about our lovely flat earth
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rocks don't move under their own power
you might throw a rock, but that is you causing it to move
well, there is a 1000 page book on the history of liquid fuel rockets
kinetic force applied to the rock
yes, i understand how a rock is thrown
that won't work with a rocket
you can't throw a rocket in space
kevin, how does a rocket move forward on earth
it propels stuff out the back from an ignition that propels it forward
its pushing off the the ground or atmosphere to create that propellant
so, the force of the propellant leaving the rocket pushes it forward?
its like a swimmer in water
you put a swimmer in air or vacuum, they can't swim
you put a rocket in water or vacuum, it doesn't work
a rocket can work in water
um, not very well
ummm, why do you think subs carry ballistic missiles
well, they are designed to work in water
i mean torpedo's are usually used for a reason
torpedo's usually aren't rockets, they are designed to work in water
Subs carry ICBMs goopy
you dont launch an ICBM underwater, but at the surface
those don't fly under water, ICBM's are fired by a sub going topside and firing them from the surface of the water
no, subs dont surface to lanch anymore
the rocket turns on outside of the water tho
its ejected from the water
the 2nd staage
anyhows, we are missing the point
rockets don't work in vacuum
how do you think it gets above the water goopy
kevvvvv long time no see
are yall talking about missiles?
you have someone with a master's degree in technical physics telling you rockets don't work in a vacuum
then he shows you an example
I show you a fan that doesn't move toilet paper in a vacuum
how do you think propellant is going to propel the rocket anywhere with nothing to push off of?
*i wont spoil*
i am just laughing you think a fan and a rocket are the same thing
fan moves stuff in atmosphere
not in a vacuum
no, fucking, shit
won't move a feather in a vacuum
just like a rocket
ground breaking discovery, fans cant push nothing
rocket will move stuff in atmosphere, not in a vacuum
neither can rockets
fan = rocket?
when it comes to pushing stuff using atmosphere, they are comparable
nope, but you dont care
i thought kevin was going to then come back and demonstrate newton's 3rd law XD
i thought he was ge xd
ha, you think kevin has an actual arguement and has logic
newton's 3rd law doesn't work in a vacuum
it doesnt require a medium
its a universal law
it does require a medium
how does a rocket work kevin?
he doesnt understand that the rocket is pushing against the combustion chamber
again, not like he actually cares
the amount of surface its pushing to move the rocket isn't enough to make it significantly move anywhere
*looks at newton's 3rd law and its lack of mention of surface area*
when life gives you lemons, shove it down your enemy's throat and watch them choke and die.
are we discussing rockets in a medium?
we are discussing rockets in vacuum
whats the problem?
its effectively a moot point anyhows because there is no space, there is no vacuum
its a fairy tale that doesn't exist
oh i see
hey kevin, you a flat earther too?
above the firmament is water
ah yes, this beutiful chain of logic
can i ask you something?
losing an arguemnt so say it doesnt matter
wait a sec, kev doesn't believe in space and the vacuum
he thinks there's water above the firmament
but sake of argument rockets don't work in a vacuum, newton's 3rd law of a reaction causes an equal and opposite reaction doesn't work in a vacuum
dont gang up on him
how are we ganging up on him?
kevin why doesnt it work in a vacuum?
1v1 is ganging up 🤔
ive handled far more many people with saner logic
no its you dumblebore and goopy
oh don't bother with me
it's just those two
you have nothing to push off of
you throwing gas into the vacuum causes no movement, it just puts gas into part of the vacuum
*looks at the combustion chamber and its distinct somethingness*
nothing happens, rocket doesn't move
what causes thrust then
thrust is caused in atmosphere
GOD causes thrust
no thrust = no movement of the rocket
rocket works in atmosphere because it has stuff to push off of and its designed to work in this medium
it doesn't work in a vacuum
let me try to simplify everything, gas coming out of the chamber has to hit a medium to be propelled?
it has to push off of nitrogen gas and stuff it finds in the atmosphere
or the ground
hmm, you know propellers right?
with nothing to push off of, its not going to propel itself forward
how does the force from pushing off the air go to the rocket?
they push air
propellers are moving air around to create lift
or propel a submarine in water
the usually pull the aircraft through the air
because it has a medium to push
they aren't going to work in a vacuum either
because there is no medium
a prollor on a ship pushes the water
well, rockets use a different way to propel themselves
not significantly different enough to push itself in a vacuum
a propeller requires a medium to push in order to create lift
you need to be traveling by some other method, like light sails or something that works in that medium
you know that flies cannot fly in a vacuum
when you eject alot of stuff very quickly through a small area is creates thrust
someone put flies in a vacuum and tested it
it didnt fly
appearantly they can survive but they cannot fly without enough atmosphere
rockets dont use wings or propellors though
its a 3rd way to generate kinetic energy
rockets have some stabalizors
they aren't flapping wings though which would create lift
we can't survive in a vacuum too
mind if i do a quick run through on rockets and you tell me what you find wrong kevin?
we know how propellers work, by pushing air or another medium
but rockets use a different method to generate thrust
they do this by ejecting extremely hot pressurized gasses through a small opening
the reason it goes through the small opening is so it has a higher pressure inside the fuel tank
which in turn ejects the material extremely fast outward
now, newtons's 3rd law states any reaction has an equal and opposite reaction, meaning when the gasses are ejected backward, the rocket is ejected forward. once the gas leaves the nozzle its useless and serves no other purpose.
welcome to reality
air only slows rockets down because of air resistance, in a vacuum the gasses would eject faster and there would be no air resistance, only helping the rocket
any problems you've thought of?
yes, rockets need something to push off of
its a propellant
i explained that yes
it propels something forward by pushing off something
there isn't enough surface area to propel the rocket forward with nothing to push off of
it pushes off of the fuel coming out of the nozzle
just like in this latest video the air balloon will not move the car in a vacuum
propellant of the air won't push it forward just like a rocket won't
are you comparing blowing air to push a car to a rocket?
look at latest video
I'm comparing stuff that works in atmosphere that doesn't work in a vacuum
both throwing stuff out the back end to push it forward
a vacuum is one of the lightest things out there, so a helium balloon wouldn't float
and both are gas in nature
a drone wont fly because there is no medium