well

you can remain in the dark and think you understand how the world operates, but meanwhile NASA will continue to tell you lies and in another 50 years guess how far we are going to get in space?

its NZ

who cares nat

no where, we are going to make absolutely no progress in space, because no one can go there

its as fake as santa clause

figt me peeper

@^Kevin^ Santa is real

when are you going to grow up and throw away childish things?

You don't understand the answers that's all you don't have to be angry and believe lies because of it

Peace

😂

rockets don't work in a vacuum, they have nothing to propel off of

no u

rig

bite me nat

kinky

@The Rig i was joking wtf lol

😁 😜

So was I 😂

Its raining flakes of snow

😁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnf_f4rogtg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtJT5gFwNjg

fan won't push stuff in a vacuum, just like a rocket won't propel anything (in vacuum)

kevin, i am curious, can you draw a diagram how you think rockets work and proell things?

Ur comparing oranges and apples @^Kevin^

you have nitrogen and oxygen in atmosphere, they work well in our environment

rockets work well in our environment, if they could actually go to space, which they can't, they wouldn't work

i want to see your diagram of how rockets propell things

Show us a thruster doing precision maneuvers in a vacuum chamber

Star wars

Then we will be believe

Believe!!!

Until then we pass on the sun cult

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It's a gang

i am not trying to convince you, i am just curious how you think rockets propel things

Gang of theives

😂

Rockets propel things using newtons 3rd law

yes

Now show me the tech =)

Us globies robbing flatties in the street straight up

for what reason?

Show me the continuity of our rocket technologies history

i want to see your diagram Z

If you want to make me sun worshiper

Show me some evidence

In space, rockets zoom around with no air to push against. What's going on?

Rockets and engines in space behave according to Isaac Newton's third law of motion: Every action produces an equal and opposite reaction.

When a rocket shoots fuel out one end, this propels the rocket forward — no air is required.

NASA says this principle is easy to observe on Earth. If you stand on a skateboard and throw a bowling ball forward, that force will push you and the skateboard back. However, because your weight on the skateboard is heavier than that of the bowling ball, you won't move as far.

so lets debunk this garbage

i am not trying, i just want to see how you think

your not standing on a skateboard when you turn on your rockets in space

Z you can find that yourself that's not hard.. The history of rockets is no conspiracy

Hello

you have nothing to push you anywhere, its like standing on ice and throwing a bowling ball

@Soldz (CF) yo

Hello

soldz?

you might fall down, but your not moving because you threw a bowling ball

Hello Goopy

huh

Kevin, how does a rock propel forward

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thrust

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@DrPeper flaps it's wings

tru

damn, didnt think of that

Whats the topic

Hopefully about our lovely flat earth

Lolz

wanna check out <#484515890759729182> ?

Yea

rocks don't move under their own power

you might throw a rock, but that is you causing it to move

well, there is a 1000 page book on the history of liquid fuel rockets

kinetic force applied to the rock

yes, i understand how a rock is thrown

that won't work with a rocket

you can't throw a rocket in space

kevin, how does a rocket move forward on earth

it propels stuff out the back from an ignition that propels it forward

propellant

its pushing off the the ground or atmosphere to create that propellant

so, the force of the propellant leaving the rocket pushes it forward?

its like a swimmer in water

you put a swimmer in air or vacuum, they can't swim

you put a rocket in water or vacuum, it doesn't work

a rocket can work in water

um, not very well

ummm, why do you think subs carry ballistic missiles

well, they are designed to work in water

i mean torpedo's are usually used for a reason

torpedo's usually aren't rockets, they are designed to work in water

Subs carry ICBMs goopy

you dont launch an ICBM underwater, but at the surface

those don't fly under water, ICBM's are fired by a sub going topside and firing them from the surface of the water

Jinx

no, subs dont surface to lanch anymore

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aPvGGvnAGQ , 3 stage rocket

the rocket turns on outside of the water tho

its ejected from the water

the 2nd staage

anyhows, we are missing the point

rockets don't work in vacuum

how do you think it gets above the water goopy

kevvvvv long time no see

yo

are yall talking about missiles?

you have someone with a master's degree in technical physics telling you rockets don't work in a vacuum

then he shows you an example

I show you a fan that doesn't move toilet paper in a vacuum

how do you think propellant is going to propel the rocket anywhere with nothing to push off of?

*i wont spoil*

i am just laughing you think a fan and a rocket are the same thing

fan moves stuff in atmosphere

not in a vacuum

no, fucking, shit

won't move a feather in a vacuum

just like a rocket

ground breaking discovery, fans cant push nothing

rocket will move stuff in atmosphere, not in a vacuum

neither can rockets

fan = rocket?

somehow

oh shoot

when it comes to pushing stuff using atmosphere, they are comparable

nope, but you dont care

i thought kevin was going to then come back and demonstrate newton's 3rd law XD

i thought he was ge xd

ha, you think kevin has an actual arguement and has logic

newton's 3rd law doesn't work in a vacuum

it does

it doesnt require a medium

its a universal law

it does require a medium

nope

how does a rocket work kevin?

he doesnt understand that the rocket is pushing against the combustion chamber

again, not like he actually cares

the amount of surface its pushing to move the rocket isn't enough to make it significantly move anywhere

hi

hi lemon

*looks at newton's 3rd law and its lack of mention of surface area*

when life gives you lemons, shove it down your enemy's throat and watch them choke and die.

are we discussing rockets in a medium?

yep

we are discussing rockets in vacuum

so?

what

3

whats the problem?

its effectively a moot point anyhows because there is no space, there is no vacuum

its a fairy tale that doesn't exist

oh i see

hey kevin, you a flat earther too?

above the firmament is water

yes

ah yes, this beutiful chain of logic

cool

can i ask you something?

losing an arguemnt so say it doesnt matter

wait a sec, kev doesn't believe in space and the vacuum

he thinks there's water above the firmament

but sake of argument rockets don't work in a vacuum, newton's 3rd law of a reaction causes an equal and opposite reaction doesn't work in a vacuum

dont gang up on him

how are we ganging up on him?

kevin why doesnt it work in a vacuum?

1v1 is ganging up 🤔

ive handled far more many people with saner logic

no its you dumblebore and goopy

uh

oh don't bother with me

it's just those two

you have nothing to push off of

*im watching*

you throwing gas into the vacuum causes no movement, it just puts gas into part of the vacuum

*looks at the combustion chamber and its distinct somethingness*

nothing happens, rocket doesn't move

what causes thrust then

thrust is caused in atmosphere

GOD causes thrust

no thrust = no movement of the rocket

rocket works in atmosphere because it has stuff to push off of and its designed to work in this medium

it doesn't work in a vacuum

let me try to simplify everything, gas coming out of the chamber has to hit a medium to be propelled?

it has to push off of nitrogen gas and stuff it finds in the atmosphere

or the ground

hmm, you know propellers right?

with nothing to push off of, its not going to propel itself forward

how does the force from pushing off the air go to the rocket?

they push air

propellers are moving air around to create lift

yes

or propel a submarine in water

the usually pull the aircraft through the air

because it has a medium to push

they aren't going to work in a vacuum either

because there is no medium

a prollor on a ship pushes the water

exactly

yep

well, rockets use a different way to propel themselves

not significantly different enough to push itself in a vacuum

a propeller requires a medium to push in order to create lift

you need to be traveling by some other method, like light sails or something that works in that medium

you know that flies cannot fly in a vacuum

when you eject alot of stuff very quickly through a small area is creates thrust

someone put flies in a vacuum and tested it

it didnt fly

🍿

appearantly they can survive but they cannot fly without enough atmosphere

rockets dont use wings or propellors though

its a 3rd way to generate kinetic energy

rockets have some stabalizors

they aren't flapping wings though which would create lift

...

we can't survive in a vacuum too

mind if i do a quick run through on rockets and you tell me what you find wrong kevin?

go ahead

alright

we know how propellers work, by pushing air or another medium

but rockets use a different method to generate thrust

they do this by ejecting extremely hot pressurized gasses through a small opening

the reason it goes through the small opening is so it has a higher pressure inside the fuel tank

which in turn ejects the material extremely fast outward

now, newtons's 3rd law states any reaction has an equal and opposite reaction, meaning when the gasses are ejected backward, the rocket is ejected forward. once the gas leaves the nozzle its useless and serves no other purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-v_K1k8Se0

welcome to reality

air only slows rockets down because of air resistance, in a vacuum the gasses would eject faster and there would be no air resistance, only helping the rocket

any problems you've thought of?

yes, rockets need something to push off of

its a propellant

i explained that yes

it propels something forward by pushing off something

yep

there isn't enough surface area to propel the rocket forward with nothing to push off of

it pushes off of the fuel coming out of the nozzle

just like in this latest video the air balloon will not move the car in a vacuum

propellant of the air won't push it forward just like a rocket won't

are you comparing blowing air to push a car to a rocket?

look at latest video

I'm comparing stuff that works in atmosphere that doesn't work in a vacuum

both throwing stuff out the back end to push it forward

(propellant)

a vacuum is one of the lightest things out there, so a helium balloon wouldn't float

and both are gas in nature

a drone wont fly because there is no medium