hello there

Oh look

Someone from the second flat earth discord

Hey lemon

how are you all on this fine evening?

@Percy Kens light isnt effected by gravity? Elaborate?

it is...

eh'

What does that have to do with impossible sight distances proving flat earth. @Percy Kens

@Lemonier doing well thx. How bout you?

Light is slightly bent, making long distances possible, that’s why you can still see daylight even though there is no sun.

quite fine, i'm surprised i haven't expired yet considering lemons have a life span of only a month or two

feels good to *live*

@Percy Kens that's because light is bouncing off the air molecules. Not because gravity is bending it. You should really look more into this false claim you are making.

Eh

I mean still

It was worth a try

Worth a try? What was? Making a false claim to try and fool people into the belief of a globe in a vacuum?

@Citizen Z i dont really want to argue so ill try to refrain doing this later, but all i have to say is that when light bounces around air molecules, it causes scattering in *all* directions, causing diffusion. The effect Percy is explaining is light traveling along a curved path in a given direction and it cant be what causes diffusion.

are you a globe earther?
if so why don't u have the role @Percy Kens

it's not that hard <#539316279086022666>

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@Lemonier percy was claiming gravity bends the light.

I mean, I’m kinda nothing

well, it does

wait

Gravity bends light?

ya...

Show this?

Black holes exist

Wtf

and before i do how would you like me to do so so i know what to generally 'look' for

We are talking about sight distances on earth or theoretical black holes?

And well, only reason I believe globe earth is because it would completely destroy every other planetary fact

none of those

just that gravity affects anything with energy, meaning also light

The FACT is. We see impossible sight distances according the globe model

wanna join VC?

Me? Nah

k

Citizen?

We dont see gravity bend light here on earth. You can theorize it bends light in a the fantasy context of space I suppose

Gravity has never been shown to bend light on terrestrial earth. Scattering of light is not light being bent by gravity.

i believe in relativity and the law of gravity, so ill explain things using them if i have to do so, you might explain them differently without those two things and thats fine

and right, scattering of light is diffusion

caused by the air...

It einsteins theory of general relativity you are talking about

both general and special

they co-exist in a sense, depend on one another to fully function as a working whole

Light is theorized to bend around MASSIVE objects like neutron stars or black holes

noticeably

i dont see how light being scattered by air is related to light being bended by gravity @Lemonier

if those objects exist, they would very noticeably

it isnt

then why did you bring it up

because Citizen did

twice

And its theorized to be gravity doing the bending. That is a guess.based on a theory of gravity

theory of relativity

thats the one

still a theory tho

@Citizen Z you gonna VC or what?

it is, but it has sufficient evidence both GE and FE related

I just can't understand why someone would make a claim saying gravity is bending light and that is evidence against flat earth. Its probably one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard

^

We see impossible distances. People say gravity.

Gravity

globe earthers always try to find an excuse for their dumb ball earth

Gravity

Cuz nasa

<:nasalies:485141702403686403>

Cuz gravity

lol

*squawk gravity squawk*

https://tenor.com/view/jarod_kintz-flat_earth-humor-chase-chasing-gif-8125510

What's worse is when you call out the false claim and ask for scientific evidence, poof they are gone.

I kinda am required to learn earth science, and well flat earth makes no sense in what I’m learning

you are learning lies

Jet streams etc

Jet streams?

Wanna know why it was -60 in Wisconsin(?) (with wind chill)

-60 Fahrenheit

well you are learning a system that has been built on basic observation and its own foundation, and because its had so much time to be added on to and polished its its own little 'model' of the universe that can be taught through education without doubt

But its not truth.

Wind is caused by temperature differences

Yes

Basic Observation can be deceiving, and so can thought experiments

I don't see what that has to do with anything

Truth is Bended to Fit within the globe earth model

However the polar vortex kinda broke

It gets cold.

thats nice

its finally coming to an end

It always gets cold in the dead of winter

And well, it hit the Jet stream and came to the US

So?

So now it’s REALLY cold

its cold in winter? who would've thought

It was warmer in ALASKA