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2021-01-17 02:28:24 UTC

Fuck Free Tradeeeeee

2021-01-17 02:34:26 UTC

whats it say

2021-01-17 03:20:47 UTC

Competitive advantage works up to a point but it doesn't scale to infinity like some people would like you to think

2021-01-17 03:50:13 UTC

It doesn't work at all really

2021-01-17 03:50:41 UTC

tl;dr wrong because full employment assumption, industry stripping, etc

2021-01-17 03:50:48 UTC

@slavecaste What is the concept of "free trade" exactly?

2021-01-17 03:51:05 UTC

The fact that we can trade globally without any tariffs and it'd be all good

2021-01-17 03:54:08 UTC

So what is the problem with it?

2021-01-17 04:01:59 UTC

Yes it does

2021-01-17 04:02:54 UTC

In principle it works, specialisation and labour division increases efficiency

2021-01-17 04:03:36 UTC

If there was no cost to transport or sell/buy goods (ie no tax, costs to enter market ect.) Then it would be fine

2021-01-17 04:04:06 UTC

The reason it doesn't work is because of geopolitical concerns and unfactored costs

2021-01-17 04:09:30 UTC

You can have that without free trade

2021-01-17 04:09:57 UTC

There are way more reasons that it won't work that aren't even that

2021-01-17 04:10:52 UTC

Because it doesn't work how theorized (wages fall, industries disappear, unemployment rises, etc)

2021-01-17 04:11:15 UTC

Competitive advantage had nothing to do with free trade, I do not agree with the author combining the two. Unemployment may rise in the short term but will fall in the long term

2021-01-17 04:11:33 UTC

And industries dissapering is not it "not working"

2021-01-17 04:11:44 UTC

You would expect industries to dissaper

2021-01-17 04:11:47 UTC

It only falls due to government stimulus, not free trade

2021-01-17 04:11:55 UTC

That is not how it is theorized.

2021-01-17 04:12:29 UTC

Yes it did? What? LOL

2021-01-17 04:12:37 UTC

Inefficient industries wither away leaving only what is nessicary

2021-01-17 04:13:00 UTC

Its an argument in favour of free trade but the concept is still sound without free trade

2021-01-17 04:13:30 UTC

But the industries that do wither away are efficient, not inefficient.

2021-01-17 04:13:55 UTC

No. Take coal in the UK for example

2021-01-17 04:13:58 UTC

Yes.

2021-01-17 04:14:15 UTC

Shit you're right

2021-01-17 04:14:18 UTC

The concept is retarded even without free trade and to use it as a defense for free trade is shitbrain.

2021-01-17 04:14:43 UTC

I disagree with Thatcher's methods but the coal mines were inefficient and the workers were holding the government hostage

2021-01-17 04:14:49 UTC

That's good

2021-01-17 04:14:54 UTC

No

2021-01-17 04:14:56 UTC

Yea

2021-01-17 04:15:02 UTC

Its good for coal mine workers

2021-01-17 04:15:09 UTC

Its not good for the country as a whole

2021-01-17 04:15:12 UTC

Ya

2021-01-17 04:15:19 UTC

And?

2021-01-17 04:15:55 UTC

Well the industry had become bloated and inefficient and could not survive without the government propping it up

2021-01-17 04:16:19 UTC

We aren't talking about Britain first of all

2021-01-17 04:16:21 UTC

We are talking about America

2021-01-17 04:16:35 UTC

The concept of competitive advantage is a truism

2021-01-17 04:16:44 UTC

Socialist countries practiced it

2021-01-17 04:16:52 UTC

Fudal lords practiced it

2021-01-17 04:17:09 UTC

I do not believe in free trade

2021-01-17 04:17:22 UTC

Second of all once the government props up those industries again (either through nationalizing or bailing out) it doesn't become any more inefficient.

2021-01-17 04:17:46 UTC

No it isn't

2021-01-17 04:17:49 UTC

A government proping up an industry means it's inefficient

2021-01-17 04:18:03 UTC

It assumes perfect competition

2021-01-17 04:18:07 UTC

A government running an industry โ‰  government proping up an industry

2021-01-17 04:18:40 UTC

I believe that it isn't good but I don't think if the government props up a industry means it is any more inefficient.

2021-01-17 04:19:06 UTC

They can prop it up through means of nationalizing

2021-01-17 04:19:20 UTC

No they didn't LOL

2021-01-17 04:19:31 UTC

'Ah yes, socialist countries had competition.'

2021-01-17 04:19:41 UTC

The Soviet Union had special zones for specific production

2021-01-17 04:19:50 UTC

And traded internally

2021-01-17 04:19:50 UTC

They didn't have comparative advantage tho

2021-01-17 04:20:14 UTC

Competitive advantage is a concept not a policy

2021-01-17 04:20:37 UTC

Yeah and that concept doesn't apply to Socialism

2021-01-17 04:20:41 UTC

Its like Darwinism, either you acknowledge it or you are wrong

2021-01-17 04:20:46 UTC

'Darwinism is right'

2021-01-17 04:20:46 UTC

Lol

2021-01-17 04:20:52 UTC

Neo-Darwinian Tard here

2021-01-17 04:21:02 UTC

I'm not here to argue the evolution vs the creation though

2021-01-17 04:21:18 UTC

You aren't a creationist are you

2021-01-17 04:21:24 UTC

I'm neither

2021-01-17 04:21:29 UTC

Like an unironic "the earth is 6000 years old"

2021-01-17 04:21:36 UTC

How is Darwinism right

2021-01-17 04:22:10 UTC

Darwinism is correct because things that perpetuate themselves carry on and things that don't do not carry on

2021-01-17 04:22:10 UTC

Natural Selection is false as well

2021-01-17 04:22:50 UTC

Lamarckist in 2021

2021-01-17 04:25:48 UTC

Darwin might have been wrong about some specifics but his general principles, which were known for millennium prior before Darwin gave explicit form to the implicit knowledge of the ages.

2021-01-17 04:27:20 UTC

Why

2021-01-17 04:27:38 UTC

Because he did

2021-01-17 04:27:42 UTC

What do you mean why?

2021-01-17 04:27:43 UTC

KKKope

2021-01-17 04:27:54 UTC

My mood rn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793519133177675802/800219828991426570/158715115315223.png

2021-01-17 04:28:22 UTC

Why is it right knowledge

2021-01-17 04:28:29 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793519133177675802/800219976727658506/Screenshot_20210114-022732.png

2021-01-17 04:29:32 UTC

Because Darwinism is not an ideology it is simply a material truth

2021-01-17 04:29:37 UTC

Why is it truth

2021-01-17 04:29:54 UTC

That which can perpetuate itself into the future will survive and that which cannot will perish

2021-01-17 04:30:22 UTC

Ideas, civilisations, species. Whatever

2021-01-17 04:30:45 UTC

but this is demonstrably false with our modern ages

2021-01-17 04:30:49 UTC

How?

2021-01-17 04:30:55 UTC

America

2021-01-17 04:31:01 UTC

What about America?

2021-01-17 04:31:32 UTC

trannies, fags, blacks are all at the top while whites are sinking and we know that those people can not perpetuate themselves into the future but are still not perished.

2021-01-17 04:31:53 UTC

They will perish

2021-01-17 04:32:01 UTC

Whites have obviously fucked up

2021-01-17 04:32:14 UTC

yes but we are the only ones capable at perpetuating into the future in America

2021-01-17 04:32:21 UTC

and they still aren't being weeded out as predicted by Darwin

2021-01-17 04:32:25 UTC

They can perpetuate themselves via memetics

2021-01-17 04:32:37 UTC

And they will eventually destroy themselves

2021-01-17 04:33:47 UTC

Their horns grew too big because females selected the biggest hornes

2021-01-17 04:34:24 UTC

Then the environment changed such that they couldn't eat enough to sustain the big hornes and the species died out

2021-01-17 04:34:46 UTC

That's like America. They won't go extinct in one generation but they will destroy themselves

2021-01-17 04:37:56 UTC

As Nietzsche pointed out genetics is only one way in which people perpetuate themselves

2021-01-17 04:38:33 UTC

Memes (in their strictest sense) also perpetuate people (via their ideas) into the future

2021-01-17 04:38:55 UTC

Ie transgenderism reproduces by memetic mind viruses

2021-01-17 04:39:19 UTC

no they dont

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