seems a lot of freedom loving people love steem . wonder why

They all love milk too, I don't see your point

the point is the other websites are brainwashment camp

facebook was the first to be controlled by the radicals

google is still in the middle. but soon it will fall to the radicals. im sure they wont let tim stay.. or any of those ^^ people

that is mypoint

Google is long gone mate

having a website that is not controlled by any thing or company. is benefital to us all

Change your IP and look at your results change

@Dunk Massive so you understand

this is a problem

we need very good solutions or we go to orwellian state

Yeah, my only argument here is that plain text can hold cp easily

so what?

google can brainwash everyone into civil war

and we all die

that is much worse i promise

and steemit cannot and does not hold child porn

We can't all die, there has to be at least one person left standing

@Dunk Massive yea we can all die easy

humans are feeble lil things

we take too long and the sun swallows earth whole

you think earth last forever no..

Nature is not feeble, there will be some hill billy fuck crawl out of a cave somewhere

@Dunk Massive where is nature on murcury

?

if it is so strong

where is nature in deep space ?

this concern is not jst mine. stephen hawkin also had it

They all have their own nature

define nature

The natural order of physics

if you mean just surrounding the yea. but natural life doesnt exist

Humans are natural life

they dont exist anywhere but earth that we know

seems pretty feeble

1 - that we know, 2 - that's earths specific nature, not the moons specific nature

steve woz “[Blockchain] is the next major IT revolution that is about to happen.”

No fora and forna doesn't mean no nature

you think old woz know a bit about tech. he envsioned personal computing

come on 😉

i dunno i like steem's delgated stake upvoting system. and i think its much better than youtube

Someone who was at the unite the right rally killed them selves after being doxed https://twitter.com/Millenniel_Matt/status/997541700351528960?s=20

many youtubes agree like hodgetwins, David pakman, and Dollar Vigilanate

Y'all Texas peeps need to stop getting shot so often

If a trump supporter shoots a school up, is it the media's fault for pushing and popularizing hate on trump and his supporters?

@Graylan | gray00 the content on steem. Where is it saved at the end of the day?

@Grenade123 it's saved into the nodes

you have seed nodes, rpc nodes, witness nodes,

The nodes are paid each block they witness. with Steem power

steem power is convertable unto USD. usd buys server

it's a complete economic cycle already. decentralized upon the planet.

rpc node runs around 512gb ram... witness nodes around 64

seed nodes can run anything over 4-8gb

see the reason why steem will go up, is everyone thinks it's not worth it or they dunno the technologoy. it has NO FEES. 😃

so you ahve bitcoin or litecoin. bitcoin has .22 usd fee. litecoin .01 usd. microtransaction useless. steem has 0.00

Zero better than 0.22 usd or 0.01 usd

also the addressing, all you need to know to send me a million usd is gray00. that is my account name

you dont have that with bitcoin.

@Tinytim
Most of the Alt-Right I've encountered refer to Sargon as "Sargoy of Mossad" and similar things. It should be clear that they despise him.

It should be clear than any ALT right despise any left of centre, and most probably any left of Alt right, including the right. Precisely the same as the alt left despise anyone right of the alt left including the normal left

@Graylan | gray00 and how is a node set up?

@Grenade123 its complicated

you run software

and then get votes

people vote you into top 20

you get $

voting is done via weighted stake. aka how much $ usd value voted for u

dont matter how many people

https://steemian.info/witness-faq

https://steemian.info/voting

https://steemian.info/witnesses

So in other words whoever is running the software is storing parts of the information that makes up the service.

precicely yes

it works similar to bitcoin

But this is proof of stake

and bitcoin is proof of work

although steem is mined. not Staked. techinically

@Grenade123 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrY3i85W5tU

Am I required to run this software that acts as a node to use any part of steem, or only if I wish to get paid?

@Dunk Massive
I'm a Green Party member, and have been called Alt-Right for being opposed to the intolerance and violence of Antifa.

@Grenade123 only if you want to be paid for being witness. you can be paid by just writing content that is good with your brain

all you need to post is a web browser or desktop light wallet

Vessel busy.org steemit.com dlive.io d.tube etc..

i like to think of it as mining crypto with my brain

for example, someone is running competition

https://steemit.com/deepdives/@deepdives/deep-dives-research-challenge-or-first-edition-or-the-wikileaks-archive

for the best article about wikileaks.

prize is the guy will up for you 50-100usd on a post 😉

so people up-voting your content is sort of like giving you a few bucks (that is a very simplified view of it)

yes exactly

they can gift you crypto or upvote with their Delegated stake weight (aka steem power )

but an up-vote costs them nothing?

yea cost them nothing. But they bought steem or earned it

ANd powered it up into steem power.

they acn power down it all and sell it all

takes 90 days

ill show u my account

https://steemd.com/@gray00

see you can see my voting banwidth, you can see voting power. you can see every action ive ever done

transparent and on chain forever

hold on, i'm trying to wrap my head around where the money, or more accurately value, comes from with up votes.

from inflation with the creation of new steem

new steem is created portion goes to witnesses

other portion goes to content creator

just like crypto is mined with ASIC miner, inflates the number of say DOGECOINs

so kind of like new stock being issued

@Grenade123 one of my friends is a developer she would probably talk to you

she builds all kinds of stuff for steem

from canada

I can only explain it to a basic level she can explain it from the development level you see

i don't really need a developer's perspective, i'm just trying to figure out where the value comes from. Since up-votes are free, the value doesn't come from the people paying you.

not paying

but you understand now ?

up-voting you

Well you have upvoting and downvoting

the payout peroid takes 7 days

so a new "coin", i guess steem? is created every 7 days

all the upvotes and downvotes are calculated , and the steempower and steem back dollars are paid out.

yea exactly. new steempower is created

steem power = one steem that has been delgated into vesting shares into the account

one steem power = one steem

@Grenade123 check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbbcy6Q0nAo

it'll explain the earnings

okay, so, we have 100 coins, which are currently distributed among users. lets say all those coins added up are worth 1000 bucks usd. now its payday, so now there is 101 coins. that new coin has been given out/split up, based on all the up-votes and downvotes of everything, right? so lets say now i have that coin, or at least a part of it. technically there is still only 1000 bucks worth of value in the system, but i now have a small piece of that. more or less?

if we say value cannot be added into the system at this moment

@Giovanna Liviana "If you're not actively anti fascist, then you are a fascist" - Antifa

@Grenade123 value comes from trading and investing

if steem was worth 0 it wouldnt work

it has to be worth USD For the system to work. making it almost unstoppable now

because witnessing never went unprofitable

i know i know, but do you get my point? if this is not how it works, then i am getting "free" money from up-votes which is not a thing

it's not free

you have to earn it

just like YouTUbe

who is losing "money" to give me that new coin

no one

then that is free money

youtube doesn't give out free money

it's not free money.

companies pay for ads, and you get a piece of that

Go ahead and just post stuff without trying

you get 0.00

nothing in the network is gaurenteed

you can post stuff with try and still get 0, depending on upvotes

yea e xactly

but this is not the point

@Dunk Massive
They're fanatics.

i make something, people up-vote it. all fine and good.

you can post great content and it can get zilch. its about those with balls enough to put million or two million usd on a hot computer to upvote content

these are not "normies"

if they say fuck you, downvote, your channel will go to negative rep

my labor was making that thing. but someone still needs to "pay" me for that labor, or i just did this for free.

You get it by being upvoted upon the chain

no ads no scams

no cia

right now they just give you a piece of the coin on pay day.

right now the inflation rate is higher

see

hold on ill show u a chart

inflation does not add value to a system

https://steemit.com/steem-inflation/@fyrstikken/what-is-the-inflation-rate-of-steem-here-is-the-supply-table-for-the-next-20-years

its just this was x cost, now its y for the same currency

@Grenade123 investors add value

more people want more power in the network

they but steem

buy*

buying steem prices go up

@Giovanna Liviana their website used to say 'fight fascism with fascism', thus a self admittance to being fascist themselves.. Fighting yourself, if not the definition of insanity, definitely makes one as bad as their enemies in every way.

thus making more want to buy

thus making prices go up

so its really the people buying the coin who pay me

until it bubbles

then rpices go down. people panic sell

cycle restarts

and the community decides how many coins i get next payday

yup

if you didnt invest

You are rfee loading the network off investor money

just like YouTubers

do

they never invest in google

only time

in exchange for USD value

same in this system typically

right, but they get people to visit google, which makes google more valuable to ad companies, and google pays the content creators for that

they are not freeloading off investors

@Grenade123 google has never made a profit you see

did not know that http://mentalfloss.com/article/545142/meghan-markle-related-hh-holmes-serial-killer-jack-the-ripper

and yes they are. lol. if you dont invest in google

you are free loading it. they charge nothing for the services

even the paid onces loose money

The Italian novelist, journalist, screenwriter, etc, Ennio Flaiano, once said:
“In Italia, i fascisti si dividono in due categorie: i fascisti e gli antifascisti.”
That means "In Italy, the Fascists divide themselves into two categories:: the Fascist and the Antifascists."
@Dunk Massive

just take a look at gogl stock

The reason why it bubbles is because the company runs operating loss

same as amazon

steemit is never ran at loss its a crypto .

no debt

no loans. just works. it will survive the collapse

well, until people stop using it

the death of any crypto

@Grenade123 too much positive feedback loop going now

it wont be stopped. the network is secure. unlike the others

bitcoin etc.. dunno

it may fail. but steem has too many people , 1 mil users.. 30% voting for witnesses

thats an incredible feat

30% voting imagine if USA had that

@Graylan | gray00 you see, the reason i was, or kind of still am, having problems, is i view the generation of new coin as like the gov printing money. Which i guess is why you used the term inflation, seeing as i believe that is one of the causes.

you know .. I unironically think the tech company that will end up on top... is probably microsoft

@Grenade123 but you understand voting democracy though right?

your vote value is delegated weight

yes

meaning how much USD you have is how much vote you have for witness

i understand that the voting has weight

if you dont like the witness you unvote them

they fall off the top 20 and wont have blocks anymore

unvote

they got quite a few things going for them... and no-one really gives them credit, they usually do stuff first which others copy, but because no-one takes them seriously, they have a lot of pivot room to try new things

you can unvote as well

Voting and Unvoting

you can delgate steem power to other users ..

you mean retract your own vote

Like an investment into their own account

similar @Grenade123 but its called unvote

on blockchain

also... they are the only top tech company that is actually diversified not to rely on ads https://twitter.com/Reza_Zadeh/status/908252417182986240

you can upvote and unvote. you can also flag

flagging is what takes SBD/steem value off posts

say someone stole your content youcan flag them

and it removes $$

wait, what if i made my own content and then someone false flags it

then your content gets no money

too bad

that is the network we all agree to have

remember how i said shit aint free 😉

that is why rofl

so i can jsut run around and flag anyone i hate and they don't get money

yup

users do it

bernie sanders does

this sounds like an SJW play house

look at his account

SJW hate crypto

they want daddy govt control

yeah, more reason for them to make an account, and flag all content

so what? they have to have USD

sjw are poor retards

100000 sjw account vs one real steem player

wait, who can flag stuff?