No its because some ppl consider it colonialism

You are free to spread material culture but cant spread your values and believes

Well i am noticing leftists playing with culture programing now

Colonialism isn't necessary, its true. Unless you're attempting multiculturalism like Britain. Gavin McInnes was on crowder the other day and implied the reason Muslim immigrants are having such a harder time living there are because they weren't colonized. The Jamaicans were, and the Indians were. I think thats pretty correct.

Thats why the push in all entertainment media

As for muslims thats not true

At least in london it isnt

Majority of them has adapted western values

Its only when you get gheto community where they dont even speak English when it gets bad

More than half are against homosexuality. Nearly half would be happy to live under sharia

Same could be said for african christians

that's true

Also they say they are against homosexuality but

I have never seen them protest it

So its more internal kind of thing

Takes time to change your view on that i guess

The real problem are those who dont want to adapt

I don't think you can change your mind on it. It's something that happens with generations.

I cant say how many of those is here

Unless the UK actually accepts sharia, i think theyll be fine and all Muslims will integrate within 60 or so years, but wtf why does it take so long haha. I guess it took that long for Europeans to acclimate here and stop being so tribal.

(by here I mean US)

Well another thing is that there are different issues in those communities

Somalians are very different from Pakistanis or Malaysians

Dumb alt rightists just put them all into same category

Europeans are brothers. They all came from the same foundations. Having Islam as your staring base is going to make things very difficult.

Bangladeshi muslims for example are very business oriented and try to adapt in my experience

Nah

Not realy brothers

Thats why we got brexit

Big part of brexit was about ppl here beeing buthurt they are not in charge of Europe policies

There were other more credible reasons ofc

[citation needed]

Cant cite this

Only speak from experience with what ppl told me

When i asked them why vote for brexit

I mean

Do you think if Brussels was relocated to London we would of voted leave? Theres a thought experiment for you.

were they upset that they couldn't control Europe

or that Europe was controlling them?

Frankly

They were upset that Germany had bigger say then GB

Thats how they felt

That its unfair

no, mate. I'm going to have to disagree with that.

Well thats what ppl were telling me

Ryecast had it right up there. and it's the latta.

The problem is

I said there were other reasons too

even if Germany DID have a bigger say, and that was their issue

it doesn't preclude the fact that that say is over GB's own nation as well as a member

The EU is set up like an early United States.

Yep the feelings of beeing under control of Brussels were here too

yeah, ofc. But i think you might of got the wrong end of the stick. The only ppl I've heard speak like that are the Richard Spences of the world.

Well at the end of the day the imigration issue was the most important for most ppl

So how do you explain the large # of ppl that are cheering for the fall of the EU. We can smell death on it.

Eu doomposters you mean?

I mean, someone might've voted for Donald Trump because they thought he was going to bring back Jim Crow.

Not happening anytime soon imo

Does that mean you use that as a cross section of reasoning?

I fail to follow the link between those things

I suppose it was a little extreme

I've heard that a big reason for Brexit was a fear that the UK military would be used as the core for a EU army over which Britain would have less control.

but to say that Great Britain should be controlling the EU

Doesn't seem like Germany has any intention of being a large contributor to their nascent EU army.

seems like an excuse like saying that GB wants colonialism again.

like the reasoning for these decisions was based on past policy

Well from what inunderstood it was deep rooted feeling

They didnt like the fact Germany has more influence in eu then gb even tho they lost ww2

I'm convinced that most people's voting choices are based on the idea that they want to be left alone.

^^

Well that folowed

I don't think that would be the decision of the common man that they want to control other nations.

That's not in their range of interests

Colonialism was never a pauper's game.

@zutt I've been anti EU for well over a decade and I've had many convocations about it and I've never heard that one.

The other question is why do half the people want more and more centralized control and integration?

What do they gain from giving Brussels more power?

Because they think the EU is more likely to leave them the fuck alone.

The people don't.

The other half do

That's the best way to sum it up.

Alright let me break it down differently

I'd assume a sizable portion of the #voteleave crowd blame the EU for much of their problems

yep

The two biggest reasons

another portion just simply think that the EU solidifies them and prevents them from changing the problems with GB

And of the people who voted stay

I'd presume that many of them think that many of the problems are fixed by releasing GB sovereignty to a higher authority

Were 1 economical (ppl thinking their wage will raise with less immigration )
And 2 feelings of not beeing in control of their own country

that the resistance to globalization is creating their problems

I've also heard lots and lots of people citing the no passports thing, like getting a passport is a huge obstacle.

There's that, too.

The EU creates boundaries

Very silly reason for such a massive decision.

but it also creates a little bit of efficiency in other regards.

Eu creates boundaries outside and breaks them inside

I mean, kind of?

Its damn convenient to have no borders inside eu

It doesn't really uphold those boundaries when it comes to NGO ships and migrant trails

but sassy right wing transgender canadians get btfo'd.