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2018-08-15 22:40:20 UTC

And when they're not misinformed, they're green as hell.

2018-08-15 22:41:19 UTC

From what I see, I get the impression that you're looking at this from an artist's perspective, one that might not be shared by your average person, right?

2018-08-15 22:41:49 UTC

To say the least.

2018-08-15 22:41:54 UTC

Have you considered looking at it from an entrepreneurial perspective, instead?

2018-08-15 22:42:08 UTC

Like, not just an artist trying to start a business

2018-08-15 22:42:13 UTC

but a business owner wanting to sell art?

2018-08-15 22:42:15 UTC

Dude the biggest plague of webcomics is that there is NO PRACTICAL WAY to advertise yourself.

2018-08-15 22:42:35 UTC

Beemann you better have something good.

2018-08-15 22:42:42 UTC

The biggest plague of any business is that you have to have customers before you make money.

2018-08-15 22:42:43 UTC

Just hit backspace to be safe.

2018-08-15 22:42:50 UTC

Yeap best hope is to partner with other people

2018-08-15 22:42:58 UTC

Yeah that's what Hiveworks was.

2018-08-15 22:43:05 UTC

Holy shit what a disaster.

2018-08-15 22:43:10 UTC

Could you run it better?

2018-08-15 22:43:13 UTC

Yes.

2018-08-15 22:43:15 UTC

**Yes.**

2018-08-15 22:43:15 UTC

With lewdgames there are ways. Many of the larger projects have publicly documented ascensions from basically nothing

2018-08-15 22:43:17 UTC

Why don't you?

2018-08-15 22:43:25 UTC

Because they had capital to start with.

2018-08-15 22:43:28 UTC

Theres a reason why 90% of companies fail without turning a profit

2018-08-15 22:43:32 UTC

What kind of capital does it take?

2018-08-15 22:43:36 UTC

Lots.

2018-08-15 22:43:42 UTC

list it.

2018-08-15 22:43:45 UTC

What?

2018-08-15 22:43:53 UTC

No.

2018-08-15 22:43:58 UTC

Work it out. what does it take to start it yourself?

2018-08-15 22:44:07 UTC

Do you even know what Hiveworks is?

2018-08-15 22:44:23 UTC

I don't. I haven't a clue. It doesn't matter.

2018-08-15 22:44:25 UTC

...

2018-08-15 22:44:25 UTC

In order to start an Internet Radio Station

2018-08-15 22:44:33 UTC

I need to have my licensing in order

2018-08-15 22:44:35 UTC

Conversation over. o_o

2018-08-15 22:44:37 UTC

I need to have my LLC established

2018-08-15 22:44:39 UTC

Too much to get into.

2018-08-15 22:44:56 UTC

I need to have a decent set of microphones and a sound board.

2018-08-15 22:45:17 UTC

I need to have software for broadcasting, a website for receiving the broadcast,

2018-08-15 22:45:26 UTC

Approximately $8,000 dollars just for that.

2018-08-15 22:45:47 UTC

One of the reasons YouTube got as popular as it is

2018-08-15 22:45:48 UTC

Ugh

2018-08-15 22:46:09 UTC

The fact that I can list that stuff out, even generally, is a result of me doing the research to get to that point. I've looked into it, and I'm in the process of executing it.

2018-08-15 22:46:12 UTC

Could start for basically free, get customers, then start spending money

2018-08-15 22:46:28 UTC

Right, but the trick there is getting those first customers

2018-08-15 22:46:29 UTC

for that

2018-08-15 22:46:31 UTC

you have to network.

2018-08-15 22:46:31 UTC

no u

2018-08-15 22:46:46 UTC

and if you've got an aversion to that, you're in trouble.

2018-08-15 22:46:52 UTC

Webcomic readers aren't customers in the traditional sense.

2018-08-15 22:47:03 UTC

You're selling advertisements to viewers.

2018-08-15 22:47:10 UTC

You're potentially selling prints.

2018-08-15 22:47:11 UTC

No, you're not.

2018-08-15 22:47:12 UTC

I'm trying to show my mom Tim's video about the MeToo consequences for men

2018-08-15 22:47:14 UTC

You're really not.

2018-08-15 22:47:15 UTC

Oh my god

2018-08-15 22:47:17 UTC

No one did that.

2018-08-15 22:47:22 UTC

It was all patreon.

2018-08-15 22:47:26 UTC

How do you even make money on web comics. Seems like the only way is to do it for free and just hope people like it.

2018-08-15 22:47:31 UTC

And only the tip of the top were able to make it work.

2018-08-15 22:47:38 UTC

And that they will throw money at you

2018-08-15 22:47:43 UTC

Only the tip top frequently do.

2018-08-15 22:48:02 UTC

No man you have no idea how much BETTER South Korea is doing webcomics

2018-08-15 22:48:09 UTC

It's insane how smart they've handled it.

2018-08-15 22:48:16 UTC

I mean, they also have socialism, so...

2018-08-15 22:48:19 UTC

No venues even exist in america. It's laughable.

2018-08-15 22:48:27 UTC

They are Asian, of court they are smart

2018-08-15 22:48:36 UTC

SK is still capitalist

2018-08-15 22:48:38 UTC

Stop with the shitty jokes.

2018-08-15 22:48:42 UTC

Jesus christ.

2018-08-15 22:48:48 UTC

Well yeah

2018-08-15 22:48:51 UTC

They're capitalist socialist

2018-08-15 22:49:00 UTC

Like Sweden?

2018-08-15 22:49:02 UTC

South Korea's reason for running webcomics well is methodical and could be learned from

2018-08-15 22:49:02 UTC

That's not a thing

2018-08-15 22:49:03 UTC

Sort of more along the norwegian model but different

2018-08-15 22:49:15 UTC

Only without the immigrants

2018-08-15 22:49:17 UTC

The Norwegian model is just capitalism with a welfare state

2018-08-15 22:49:28 UTC

Socialism is when the state takes over the market

2018-08-15 22:49:31 UTC

But only by the people with the capital to get the ball rolling. And all the head honchos in webcomics of the west, are spineless jello.

2018-08-15 22:49:37 UTC

You watch Tim Pool too, Beemann? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

2018-08-15 22:49:48 UTC

Tim's correct on that one

2018-08-15 22:49:52 UTC

I know.

2018-08-15 22:49:53 UTC

I watch Tim Poole

2018-08-15 22:51:36 UTC

One of the reasons why artists lean to the left so much is because it's actually super hard for artists to do what they do and make a decent living.

2018-08-15 22:51:40 UTC
2018-08-15 22:51:53 UTC

Heard about that in dank brigade

2018-08-15 22:51:53 UTC

Actually.

2018-08-15 22:51:56 UTC

Shit's fucked

2018-08-15 22:52:03 UTC

Another big reason most artists are left

2018-08-15 22:52:10 UTC

Is because people on the right *hate* artists.

2018-08-15 22:52:13 UTC

Big5 traits

2018-08-15 22:52:27 UTC

Conservatives act like complete frat bros about it.

2018-08-15 22:52:31 UTC

All the time.

2018-08-15 22:52:38 UTC

[citation needed]

2018-08-15 22:52:42 UTC

Tough.

2018-08-15 22:52:44 UTC

Wait was he actually banned from having a MasterCard for his beliefs?

2018-08-15 22:52:56 UTC

The plural of anecdote is not data.

2018-08-15 22:53:02 UTC

I don't care.

2018-08-15 22:53:07 UTC

๐Ÿ‘Œ

2018-08-15 22:53:08 UTC

I'm just telling the truth as I've seen it.

2018-08-15 22:53:20 UTC

I won't always be able to prove it in court, but I won't lie.

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