The bombs are even the reason Japan surrendered

Im just wondering if there was any other situation similar to US Japan

Like country A defeats B

well did anyone else have nukes

A helps B rebuild and lets B keep their sovereignity

And B does not fuck it up

History is fully of country A defeating country B

But helping B rebuild without taking over?

Like Japan was never acolony or annexed state of the US

Rome help Rebuild everyhing . . . (in there image cough cough)

Thats subjugation

Or annexing

There were instances of it in history . but its few and far inbetween

im trying to find some

you didnt see america forcing the japs to learn english or discard all of their culture

@Walsp the USSR is the reason for Japan's surrender

Or forcing them to enlist in the US army

Like auxillaries in Rome

Having beaten Germany russia was turning it's full attention to Japan and Japan couldn't win a 2 front war

So they gave into the USA

I doubt that to be honest.

Hmmmm

They were counting on the US to invade them

And the USSR lost too many from their war with germany

Unless the japanese didnt know that

Yes and the bombs helped for sure

only recently before trumps election didnt japan get the right to have a army again because of China

Still Ill aagree on one thing

But it was not the reason we won

the us forced them to have a Defence force only in a pact

That the japs would rather they surrunder unconditionally to the US rather Russia

They.... dont have a standing defensive army?

They dont even have nukes

Russia is a strange one . they want to be part of europe but because of what the USSR did in the cold war the rest of europe was weary but Nato did break its agreement with russia

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Honestly though theres alot of rumours about the surrender

Japan has always been able to have a standing army

Like for example, peopel said Japan wanted to surrender before the nukes

Hmm some of them probably

the emporer was stubborn as fuck japanese Pride and all that

But it wasnt unconditional, they would continue their autrocities in china, korea, and malaysia

I have ancestors that remember running when their non chinese naighbours would warn them

Thats the sad thing about history its litterally our Chronology of how many we kill of ourselves to figure out how to live together

The emperor of Japan st the time was actually apart of the piece faction

I also seen a river, the river that people say its haunted since the kempetai would throw corpses into it

was he ?

then i must have it incorrect sir i appologize

Problem is, there is also a very large military presence in politics

The emperor has always been powerless in Japan

War is a political tool best used as a last resort

If I recall, the US suspected of a plan by the millitary to usurp the emperor if they decided the emperor was no longer following the path

No, but the Emperor is very influential

its more of a Symbol

The jingoist war leaders wanted to continue and had Germany not fallen and the bombs not dropped they would have for decades more

And having the emperor who might give peace, is better than a general who would rather Japan burn

Yup your right on that Codes

If the US never had a Atomic weapon they would have invaded

But wernt they counting on the US to invade with ground forces

yeah

they expected it

they were basically brainwashing their own peoplei nto performing suicide attacks should they do it

They were not counting on the USSR invading them too

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Im talking running into Amercian soldiers with grenades in hand

Strap satchel Charge on chest and run

yeah the Grenade attacks

aswell as the Suicide before surrender in the bunkers

Still, I was sure the USSR was mostly defensive late into the war

In a documentary a WW 2 vet said we killed them like animals because they kept attacking us like animals

That was just the culture of Japan

The toll of the war around the eastern front was massive

I mean the Japs were vicious fuckers.

yeah

Ferocity of an animal, honor of a man.

Combine those and you get very loyal troops.

i have to respect the japanese fighting spirit

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those people are not to be triffled with WE almost Lost Rugby in the world cup to them

I thought NZ had the cup before

We won it twice i believe

NZ?

south africa

Funny enough I remember that south African rugby movie

Im pretty sure the NZ are considered the best at Rugby

Was pretty funny

South africa Australia and NZ are biggest rivals

The all blacks.