it was meant as a metaphor guyse

Ohh

of course it sees isreal as usefull ally.
israel is biggest lobby in US.
and US allows isrel dual citizens in goverment.

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THE FARSI WORD FOR DEATH ALSO MEANS ETERNAL LIFE

seriously tho, US-Iran relations are an irredeemable mess

It will.. take a miracle

Bush didnt do too well there.

See this is your problem with your politics jasse

you have no idea how to get what you want without saying it

what do yall think about the stuff in northern syria? the Rojava revolution and the DFNS?

we we are all here to learn right?

See, what I don't get, Jasse, is that invariably people speaking on the Jewish Conspiracy seem to act like Jews operate as a Unit.

Its always gotta be "get DA JOOICE"

I mean I dont think we are any good at putting forward our ideas

Iran was bombed for ISIS?

I don't see it as any different from the Patriarchal conspiracy.

Because it isnt

But this ones true!

but jews are out side group and consider them selfs as such

Have you ever met a Jew?

Not really...

Like, any single one?

@mrpsychedelic source showing that Iran was attacked in response to ISIS actions?

Sat down and talked with them?

I think... before you judge a collective, at least take the time to talk it out.

I have. Many times.

Tim still goes on about how not all Antifa are thugs

Ditto. They're people.

Half the jews im friends with are outspoken critics of israel

The culture stemming from their religion gives them a sense of community

And to be honest, why should they feel a connection? They probably see themseves as americans more than israeli

A bit stronger than that you'll see in a Christian church

which is saying something

wasn't there a jewish group that holds protests and burns the israeli flag?

nkusa?

For the record, all you had to do was come at this from literally any angle other than the jewish one

Want to get rid of the lobby? Push to get money out of politics

But that doesn't mean they consider themselves a separate group, so much as a subsection.

Want the US to stop supporting Israel? promote a foreign policy in our hemisphere first or focus on staying out of middle eastern entanglements

Ah yeah to segwa

To another topic

Theres also the issue of the lobbies in the US

interests of the people sidewinded by money

but why you think foreign money should be allowed in fist place?

>but why do you

I dont think anyone here is saying it should be allowed

I dont you fucking moron

Problem is, the people who can do shit bout it are benefiting from it

lmao

removing money from politics would be great

Also dont... assume people's stances.

But you never bothered to ask that, you assumed that I supported it instead of asking about it

bringing jews into the equation is just distracting imo

Its money thats the main issue

You're not the first IdPol zombie we've hunted in this discord. 😛

Regardless of whos the source

Well.. we had one, I did my best to make sure he still felt welcome

But... well, its hard to push a controversial idea without touching a few nerves

Was a good challenge nevertheless

taling about out side group that is driving their own intrestin is just distraction?@shinsoo

Because... everyone does it?

good on you ginga

You specifically outing one sounds hypocritical

What else would it be jasse?

Like the gun lobby the ciggaret lobby

The sugar industry

they all do it.

@GingaBomber nama another country that is allowed to do it?

Even if everyone didnt, advocating on your own behalf is not evidence of guilt.

Lobbying?

Wait a second...

yes

Are you saying foreign money

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Or all lobbying local and foreign?

foreing

Wait wait money comes into the US from outside and people use it in elections?

I was pointing out locals are also just as insidious when it comes to lobbying

Im also saying all lobbying is bad

Imagine my shock

His ideology seems to spell out like this

So we should discuss how all lobbying is harful regardless of source

Jews believe themselves to be separate from their 'host nations'

The sugar one for example

therefore money they put into politics should be considered foreign

god, the sugar lobby is insidious

Get a new bombshell jasse. that one is a dud

Or previously the smoking lobby and also the antigun and weapon lobby

The Corn lobby is worse, Shinsoo

If you want foreign

you have the chinese lobby

the israel lobby

they're both disgustingly influential

But disgustingly deliciously pervasive.

And also if it counts, any relligious lobby with cores outside the US

you basically need a lobby to have any issue represented, by the sounds of it

That includes cults like scientology

The Vatican is literally separate from Rome

Its just bribing with more steps

and chinese lobby is tolerated?