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2018-09-18 22:46:46 UTC

Why should I have to virtue signal in order to do free coding labor for you?

2018-09-18 22:46:53 UTC

Get your free labor elsewhere then.

2018-09-18 22:46:56 UTC

lol

2018-09-18 22:47:10 UTC

LibreOffice happened because people didn't like where OpenOffice was going and hated the guy in charge of it

2018-09-18 22:47:18 UTC

you cant possibly code if you dont respect blah blah blah

2018-09-18 22:47:46 UTC

Entire distros and OS' happen over personal disputes lol

2018-09-18 22:47:55 UTC

that they do

2018-09-18 22:47:58 UTC

Or someone just being a dick with the IP

2018-09-18 22:48:06 UTC

What happens when the CoC is baked into the license?

2018-09-18 22:48:07 UTC

looking at you redhad

2018-09-18 22:48:19 UTC

Then it's not FOSS and you fork from before that point

2018-09-18 22:48:26 UTC

Bigots fork your project and get hit with a lawsuit.

2018-09-18 22:48:26 UTC

EZ

2018-09-18 22:50:13 UTC

>ingsoc v4.1
>shitposters fork 4.0
Wow
Such a loss

2018-09-18 22:51:03 UTC

its crazy to think that microsoft could become the closest thing to an open platform

2018-09-18 22:51:09 UTC

Wot

2018-09-18 22:51:25 UTC

if linux gets closed off and changed

2018-09-18 22:51:29 UTC

is all i meant

2018-09-18 22:51:33 UTC

It literally cant

2018-09-18 22:51:40 UTC

ya i know

2018-09-18 22:51:59 UTC

but for the bulk of people they will stick to the main builds

2018-09-18 22:52:04 UTC

All the corporate support then goes to the ingsoc fork and shitposters are back to a dozen nerds doing shit in their free time. Sure it might still exist but progress grinds to a halt and you lose most of your software library because it's not being updated anymore.

2018-09-18 22:52:11 UTC

so for those people it will be closed off

2018-09-18 22:52:36 UTC

>a dozen nerds doing shit in their free time
You mean the basis for all of this

2018-09-18 22:52:52 UTC

^^

2018-09-18 22:53:29 UTC

Look, back before linux took off it was virtually unusable. The difference in usability between Red Hat 5.2 and Windows 2000 was like night and day.

2018-09-18 22:53:34 UTC

Also Linux is not a normie kernel. People have fights over systemd and vim/emacs

2018-09-18 22:53:57 UTC

@Atkins isnt wrong there

2018-09-18 22:54:01 UTC

If the license stopped being FOSS on later releases you'd lose a ton of support

2018-09-18 22:54:23 UTC

Who are the corporations going to back? The SJWs or the shitlords?

2018-09-18 22:54:31 UTC

yep

2018-09-18 22:54:31 UTC

Neither

2018-09-18 22:54:36 UTC

bullshit

2018-09-18 22:54:41 UTC

Neither of them are a substantial audience lol

2018-09-18 22:55:00 UTC

the sjws already have pretty much everyone convinced they are some huge group

2018-09-18 22:55:11 UTC

>Microsoft is going to back a group that wants to fuck over Microsoft
Ok

2018-09-18 22:55:14 UTC

or at the very least

2018-09-18 22:55:20 UTC

that they speak for a very large group

2018-09-18 22:55:34 UTC

microsoft has mostly stayed away from all of this

2018-09-18 22:55:35 UTC

But they dont want to "fuck over microsoft" they want to "help microsoft stop being racist"

2018-09-18 22:55:37 UTC

which they will

2018-09-18 22:55:42 UTC

So help them isolate themselves

2018-09-18 22:55:43 UTC

they will stay totally out of it all

2018-09-18 22:55:53 UTC

so they can just be the arms dealer selling to everyone

2018-09-18 22:56:11 UTC

they are the nic cage lol

2018-09-18 22:56:16 UTC

MS didn't have to do shit because the community fixed it

2018-09-18 22:56:42 UTC

The system self corrected

2018-09-18 22:56:47 UTC

huh?

2018-09-18 22:56:49 UTC

you lost me there

2018-09-18 22:56:58 UTC

The specific instance being referenced

2018-09-18 22:57:06 UTC

The anti ICE non FOSS license

2018-09-18 22:57:14 UTC

The MIT license change and the Linux CoC are two separate instances.

2018-09-18 22:57:16 UTC

oh oh i gotcha

2018-09-18 22:57:17 UTC

my bad

2018-09-18 22:57:41 UTC

Linus leaving and linux gettinga CoC are a clear victory for SJWs.

2018-09-18 22:58:05 UTC

That shit is just going to spread into everything now. Anyone who resists is going to be a target.

2018-09-18 22:58:08 UTC

i cant help but giggle at Linux getting some coc

2018-09-18 22:58:53 UTC

>a version of fork-able niche software got a coc
>this shit is going to spread into everything
Actual alarmism. It already tried to spread into everything

2018-09-18 22:59:09 UTC

And saw losses lol

2018-09-18 22:59:26 UTC

i still think it will more about adding monitoring tools to the systems for easier remote spy capabilities

2018-09-18 22:59:39 UTC

That's a bigger concern

2018-09-18 22:59:51 UTC

thats why they want linus gone!!!

2018-09-18 23:00:09 UTC

What are they going to monitor for?

2018-09-18 23:00:42 UTC

unknown, but once they get webservers to update with the new "critical security patch" they will find it

2018-09-18 23:01:09 UTC

thats how it will play out too

2018-09-18 23:01:18 UTC

and every admin will have to install the update

2018-09-18 23:01:25 UTC

for compliance or worry

2018-09-18 23:01:35 UTC

and the last piece of the network is online

2018-09-18 23:01:46 UTC

they already got ms, apple, and android

2018-09-18 23:02:36 UTC

only thing they are missing are all those linux webservers

2018-09-18 23:02:47 UTC

unix too, but that will get the same security update

2018-09-18 23:03:23 UTC

yeah, i understand how it's a problem. but i think we need to be specific about what we're afraid of having monitored. because "im in ur interwebs stealin' ur datas" is not something that really frightens people anymore. it's been normalized. if we're specific about what we're afraid they're going to use the data for, it's more likely to provoke a response.

2018-09-18 23:03:57 UTC

agreed, the softtargets will be the easy open web, websites

2018-09-18 23:04:11 UTC

the hard targets will be using it to finish their darkweb sniffer

2018-09-18 23:04:25 UTC

Like for example, I'm afraid of Dick Durbin writing bills outlawing online pseudoanonymity.

2018-09-18 23:04:36 UTC

agreed

2018-09-18 23:04:50 UTC

i feel that

2018-09-18 23:04:57 UTC

I don't want my political opinions associated with my real life, mostly because I don't want antifa jackasses going after my family.

2018-09-18 23:05:00 UTC

but how can you enforce that

2018-09-18 23:05:15 UTC

Government surveillance is a bigger issue than SJWs

2018-09-18 23:05:25 UTC

agreed

2018-09-18 23:05:27 UTC

if everyone does it how can you enforce it?

2018-09-18 23:05:35 UTC

So when we're talking about being monitored, we need to make it clear that you can be at very real physical risk.

2018-09-18 23:05:58 UTC

Government might be SJWs before long.

2018-09-18 23:05:59 UTC

its a valid concern

2018-09-18 23:06:34 UTC

they get to label whoever they want and can just find you out in an instant

2018-09-18 23:06:50 UTC

totally

2018-09-18 23:06:53 UTC

they mostly have the ability already, just to be clear

2018-09-18 23:07:04 UTC

or they can make statements of who you are or label yourself

2018-09-18 23:07:06 UTC

but they are still missing a few parts to the machine

2018-09-18 23:07:24 UTC

Oh yeah

2018-09-18 23:07:43 UTC

I'm pretty sure that if someone at Google really, really wanted to they could find out who I was without much trouble.

2018-09-18 23:07:54 UTC

Then they could just leak that somewhere.

2018-09-18 23:08:04 UTC

But I'm not worth the trouble.

2018-09-18 23:08:10 UTC

I'm some random nutter.

2018-09-18 23:08:19 UTC

ya, i wont lie, i have already seen that as a possibility

2018-09-18 23:08:34 UTC

it was why i was a lurker for about a month before i started to talk

2018-09-18 23:09:03 UTC

because ya, putting the 2 and 2 together is like 10 minutes worth of work

2018-09-18 23:09:19 UTC

getting the information out there is about 5 extra minutes at most

2018-09-18 23:09:23 UTC

i just jump in who cares

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