you want them to play ball with the republicans'

2 way street

No. I want them to LOSE.

I don't want to play anything. I just want them to lose.

oh ffs

Im with Atkins on this, If trump concedes something to the Democrats he only stands to lose,

Because the dems still wont forgive him for being a Rep, They'll forget that he gave them something
And the Reps will feel betrayed and wont offer him such a solid base

playing this game of, i win you loose, no comprimise is only bad for the entire country

Right now, as long as Trump is doing Trump and standing with the Reps, he'll gain popularity and power
And the Dems are bleeding because the current game is bleeding them out, they have nothing

You still think that there is some sort of fairness and civility in play. That these people have everyone's best interest at heart.

everyone has to evantually comprimise and get back to running the damed country before too long

its not a cut throat war ....

seeing it as such just makes things worse

Trump IS running the country, and he's getting it on a fast track to supremacy again

Its the Dems that should compromise and return to running

all the dems are doing is obstructing

That mentality is what the leftists have abused to bring us to this point.

no its just what they are currently exploiting

it went well for years

"You just have to compromise on some reasonable restrictions!"

Dems are like a child right now,

If you give in to this obstruction they're doing, they'll know it works and continue,

They're losing with this behaviour

i dont disagree

but eventually they have to be brpught back into it once they calm the hell down

is not like obama did a great job either

because you will never have 100% dems or 100% republicans

yes, but they have to calm down and be the one to offer getting back into the fold,

Its not the Reps turn to stand down

there isnt a turn

or a stand down

its a do your job sort of thing

we hired them to do one

its time for them to get to it

on all sides

^

The Dems aren't even acting like a political party anymore.

You're naive if you think that "in theory" works in reality

we got this far didnt we?

seems like it worked up till pretty recently

not by playing ball

bullshit

you are nieve if you think there was ever a time where one party fully rules over the other without any comprimmise happening

The US will always be a two-party system but the democrats have shifted too far to the left and need to be utterly gutted and destroyed in order to bring them back to sanity. 'Compromising' with them and giving them Supreme Court picks when they don't hold the executive or the senate is NOT going to do that.

nevergoing to happen

I never said that, I'm saying cut-throat world is politics

i agree the dems have too many far leftists in there now

but if they lose the nov elections

So how is compromising with them and rewarding their insanity going to help?

they wil see they need to back it off

They do not need to be rewarded. They need to be crushed.

oh shit, look what we did, lets dial this back some

thats just stupid adkins that kind of mentality just leads to open war, no one needs that

exactly, so its the Dems turn to back off since they're acting stupid/crazy now

They are not anywhere close to the realization of how insane they have become.

ya they are doc

i dont disagree with that at all

but

sayin they must be crushed under our boot is the type of talk that freaks them out to begin with

if everyone just dialed it back a few notches

it would calm down

or it could

No it would not.

it could

Thats what i meant originally with that its "their turn" btw, Not that it should flick back and forth,

But its the dems that should stop, not Trump/Reps

The revolution never stops.

These Trotskyite motherfucks would just be emboldened.

i wont say that isnt one of the possibilities

but i think we are just a few months to a year away from the MAJORITY of demcrats from finally waking up and being like... wait... what are we doing

the super left will just do their thing like they always did before

and we will go back to ignoring the extreemists on both sides

And few months to a year is a big gap of "potentially"

Until they realise their insanity and show their willingness to change, we can't give them an inch, or they'll take a mile

nah, you have to give up that inch so you can both walk the mile

We can't "compromise" and expect them to be all nice and fellow on their own, because they wont

just an inch

no compromise is exactly what the left is Trying to do to the right currently. One side is goign to have to say, look we are better than this and be the biggger person. Right now, the RIGHThas the chance to come out looking like gold by being that side

if the right squanders it, then they are just as lost as the left

us in the middle will justt pick up the pieces when the smoke clears

Nope. You completely fail to get it. The Republicans have been doing that shit for 20 years and the political spectrum just keeps shifting further and further to the left.

i have lived it

i didt miss shit

so fuck off with that crap

i know exactly what you think you are saying

you just wont look at the issue further downthe line

Compromising on immigration reform, compromising on gun control, compromising on health insurance, compromising on tax reform.

just at the current bullshit we are in now

'Reasonable' restrictions to rights

Fuck all of that.

i didnt say compromise on any of those things

you put all that in my mouth

No compromise.

Just victory.

then we all die

thanks bud

cause no one wins in that world

you either

Live free or die.

Here's a snippet from Reagans Speech:

There's no argument over the choice between peace and war, but there's only one guaranteed way you can have peace, and you can have it in the next second, surrender.

Admittedly, there's a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson of history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face -- that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight or surrender. If we continue to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, eventually we have to face the final demand -- the ultimatum.

im all about live free or die

you will be hard pressed to find anyone that believes that more than me

but

Every compromise from this moment requires compromising freedom.

bullshit

No more compromises.

we can give them a little ground on somethign as a show of faith