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2018-09-17 02:03:41 UTC

yea because Corporates (Ones in power) are using the Radicals

2018-09-17 02:04:07 UTC

What internal revolution? Looks like the DNC has already quashed any far left uprising.

2018-09-17 02:04:07 UTC

The people Walking Away have the potential to fight this but dont

2018-09-17 02:04:27 UTC

DNC changed the Super Delegate Rules

2018-09-17 02:04:29 UTC

Someday, if you wake up and you find you can't control the party, or the party is betraying you, or the power base isn't where you think it is, or you find yourself looking increasingly alone, flipping sides is sometimes your best option.

2018-09-17 02:05:11 UTC

@devpav It hasn't finished yet. And it's still very much being fought. There's been some more far-left upsets in the primaries too.

2018-09-17 02:05:23 UTC

what do you do when you dont like the other side either

2018-09-17 02:05:28 UTC

I don't know.

2018-09-17 02:05:35 UTC

welcome to my world sometimes.

2018-09-17 02:05:36 UTC

>64 enemies
>still can't find anyone

2018-09-17 02:05:43 UTC

I remember why I stopped playing this game

2018-09-17 02:06:26 UTC

@Lagomaster24 I've never really been a fan of Trump and I still am not. We're on "opposite" sides, but we're more alike than you might think.

2018-09-17 02:06:35 UTC

I'm still expecting Crowley to win back his seat from AOC in November. The Dem establishment will just toss a few million at his third-party campaign.

2018-09-17 02:06:53 UTC

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2018-09-17 02:07:13 UTC

I don't know.

2018-09-17 02:07:19 UTC

Most people are pretty alike politically

2018-09-17 02:07:25 UTC

People said the same thing about Trump right until the end.

2018-09-17 02:07:36 UTC

you just have to actually have a conversation

2018-09-17 02:07:58 UTC

It would be a huge disruption of the order for Crowley to be even fighting AOC in Nov.

2018-09-17 02:08:09 UTC

funniest ban message I've ever had

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/491067808407617550/jocksXD.PNG

2018-09-17 02:08:11 UTC

And I highly doubt he'd put himself into that fight.

2018-09-17 02:08:13 UTC

Anyone notice Cortez isnt getting as much coverage anymore?

2018-09-17 02:08:29 UTC

Yeah.

2018-09-17 02:08:34 UTC

I think she kinda blew up.

2018-09-17 02:08:49 UTC

But it says that they just dropped her instead of playing her everywhere like they did for Palin.

2018-09-17 02:09:04 UTC

It has happened before on both sides. Hell, Murkowski lost her GOP primary and then won a *write-in* campaign during the general election.

2018-09-17 02:09:14 UTC

think she'll win?

2018-09-17 02:09:18 UTC

Partially because Palin was still at the forefront, but mostly because I think the media realized she was too close to what they wanted and not a good representative.

2018-09-17 02:09:36 UTC

Cortez? Absolutely.

2018-09-17 02:09:45 UTC

why?

2018-09-17 02:09:56 UTC

The Dem Party is very top-down and exerts a great deal of control on it's members for historical reasons.

2018-09-17 02:09:56 UTC

Crowley is the #4 Dem in the House, right?

2018-09-17 02:10:14 UTC

So you think she'll be watered down?

2018-09-17 02:10:17 UTC

Fight the official primary system and you guarantee a huge mess for someone.

2018-09-17 02:10:26 UTC

I think she'll just be ignored outside the base.

2018-09-17 02:10:34 UTC

There's politicians like that on both sides of the aisle.

2018-09-17 02:10:34 UTC

hers?

2018-09-17 02:10:42 UTC

The progressive base.

2018-09-17 02:10:48 UTC

yea

2018-09-17 02:10:52 UTC

Like, everyone not in SF or NYC will ignore her.

2018-09-17 02:11:04 UTC

And the media will figure it out and not bring her up.

2018-09-17 02:12:03 UTC

@devpav something like that. But if you bend the rules it causes chaos and the party bosses won't like that.

2018-09-17 02:12:55 UTC

And since Cortez's base is the most energized and active part of the base, they won't risk alienating them further. They need footsoldiers to run door to door for voter registration drives and campaigning.

2018-09-17 02:13:23 UTC

If Crowley was mounting a serious challenge, he would have been making noise already.

2018-09-17 02:13:37 UTC

The Dems already spend millions astroturfing all of that.

2018-09-17 02:14:09 UTC

Money and people are different resources.

2018-09-17 02:14:17 UTC

You need both.

2018-09-17 02:14:55 UTC

The Dems use money to buy people. That's Soros's schtick.

2018-09-17 02:15:33 UTC

actively campaigning (volunteers and all) works, might not always win but its a fantastic way to get awareness out or get out to vote

2018-09-17 02:16:13 UTC

Dems and Repubs campaign

2018-09-17 02:16:51 UTC

although they put more effort into it if the area is swing

2018-09-17 02:17:05 UTC

@devpav you don't honestly believe the left is just controlled by Soros, do you?

2018-09-17 02:17:21 UTC

I believe he's their largest donor.

2018-09-17 02:17:34 UTC

LIke, he's a major player and his recent donation is actually an order of magnitude larger than both war chests in 2016.

2018-09-17 02:17:49 UTC

m'Soros puppets

2018-09-17 02:17:51 UTC

But he's not some kind of puppetmaster, and money alone won't win you anything.

2018-09-17 02:18:04 UTC

And money disappears fast.

2018-09-17 02:18:05 UTC

He provides money and organization.

2018-09-17 02:18:18 UTC

Sure? But there's more than just Soros' organizations.

2018-09-17 02:18:25 UTC

Of course there is.

2018-09-17 02:18:28 UTC

i read that as smores

2018-09-17 02:18:50 UTC

smores puppets

2018-09-17 02:18:54 UTC

There's still Silicon Valley, the MSM, etc etc. I never said the Dem Party was a one-man show run by Soros.

2018-09-17 02:19:27 UTC

Idk if itโ€™s just my area but there is an increase in Dems not taking Corporate donations

2018-09-17 02:20:03 UTC

When Soros dumps 18 bil on foundations and Silicon valley makes donation apps just for you, you don't have to.

2018-09-17 02:20:12 UTC

And that's far from the only place it's happening.

2018-09-17 02:20:21 UTC

In fact, Iโ€™ll have to check on the current one, but the one I worked on during state elections almost exclusively did small individual donations

2018-09-17 02:20:24 UTC

It's nice PR.

2018-09-17 02:20:31 UTC

We're not disagreeing about anything then.

2018-09-17 02:20:40 UTC

Sure.

2018-09-17 02:21:07 UTC

But I still hold the claim, that Soros can't just buy people and the party does concern itself with the far left base.

2018-09-17 02:22:04 UTC

Soros is often aligned with the far left, too.

2018-09-17 02:22:11 UTC

@Lagomaster24 I'm pretty sure the corporations and such are funneling their money in other ways however.

2018-09-17 02:22:29 UTC

They take money from the party so maybe in that way

2018-09-17 02:22:30 UTC

@devpav fair.

2018-09-17 02:22:46 UTC

Out of sight out of mind thing maybe

2018-09-17 02:22:46 UTC

PACs is my immediate guess.

2018-09-17 02:22:58 UTC

And advertising.

2018-09-17 02:23:08 UTC

No they didnโ€™t except PAC money

2018-09-17 02:23:10 UTC

Nike isn't exactly playing both sides in it's ads right now.

2018-09-17 02:23:21 UTC

Interesting.

2018-09-17 02:23:35 UTC

But I am pretty sure they are funnelling money somehow.

2018-09-17 02:23:37 UTC

Only party and small donations by individuals

2018-09-17 02:23:45 UTC

Again probs party

2018-09-17 02:23:53 UTC

Probably won't say what it is because it doesn't look good to be finding a backdoor.

2018-09-17 02:23:55 UTC

Iโ€™m only talking about the one I worked

2018-09-17 02:24:03 UTC

But I guarantee there's a backdoor somewhere.

2018-09-17 02:24:05 UTC

Not the current one

2018-09-17 02:24:13 UTC

And people are using it.

2018-09-17 02:24:30 UTC

I've heard they removed a limit on oil companies recently.

2018-09-17 02:24:34 UTC

The current one only said they arenโ€™t taking corporate money iirc

2018-09-17 02:24:43 UTC

Because the Kochs are funding a Democrat.

2018-09-17 02:24:56 UTC

Who?

2018-09-17 02:25:29 UTC

Interestingly I know a lot of Dems who hate PACs

2018-09-17 02:25:44 UTC

Or at least voters

2018-09-17 02:25:45 UTC

Heitkamp.

2018-09-17 02:25:48 UTC

Is that pronouced how i *hope* it's pronounced?

2018-09-17 02:25:58 UTC

Kochs ๐Ÿค”

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