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Back to what our founding fathers wanted.

Imagine the US national animal

Realistically, the remnants of the army would have grabbed that stuff long before.

The phoenix

The national archives are considered key infrastructure.

If there is no leadership and I proved my worth, I might suggest the military place the national capital here.

Then make Oklahoma forward base.

Also, the fact you are thinking about it wuold mean someone would try and grab it to use as a power play.

Thus bringing them under control, with the leaders of the states being house of congress.

I dont think we want a millitary govt

and establish themselves as the true heirs to the country.

Yeah that what I was thinking/saying earlier, the us military and government had 60 years to plan for a nuclear war

I wouldn't think of myself as a heir.

I would want to rebuild the government.

@GingaBomber in a nuclear strike, it's assumed.

With a president, congress, house, and etc....

In the aftermath I mean

That would be in the late game.

Mark's got some rather romantic ideas of what it would all look like.

what do they call it?

A junta?

Martial law.

It's written into the founding documents actually.

As a last resort.

My idea of soil reclamation idea is good.

Since radiation doesn't seep down into the ground far...

Maybe 2 feet at the most.

The military will be the last remnant of the government, they have the highest legitimacy

Use Greenhouses to protect the crops and keeps soil from being decontaminated again.

I wonder if the Military would put me in charge if I prove it by leading Oklahoma back out of the ashes.

If there is no leadership aka president.

Honestly, what I think would be more interesting is a bioterror attack.

Bioterror attack, ugh... now that is scary.

That's actually possible.

Or they might see you as another competitor

One of many

No one would want to come in contact with each other.

Yes, but I think it's more plausible.

Well if I was in that position, I would say... this is what I have to offer.

They do if they have stuff each other want but does not have

Show them what I have built so far.

Here's the other thing about bioterror: it would likely be international.

EVERYONE would be in deep trouble.

Bioterror is too damn scary.

To complex in rebuilding.

Yes, but it's approaching "you can do it in your garage" levels of feasible.

Not only you have to worry about people, you have to worry about the animals.

And is far deadlier and requires far less sophistication than a nuclear strike.

Yeah I wouldn't want to be around other people if theirs a super plague running around

Yeah, I know what you mean.

Same.

Which makes everything much messier.

And the UN and WHO would be in an absolute panic trying to tie it all down.

Do I have to say, in aftermath of any apocalyptic scenario, criminals would be having a field day.

But realistically, the problem would be widespread enough they'd be very hard pressed to get it all together.

Pedophiles, Murders, Serial Killers, Slavery, Dictators, Religious cults...

You name it, there would be these bastards out there harming other people.

Not necessarily. People actually tend to behave very well in the aftermath of natural disasters.

Dibs on pc cults

Yeah, but when the government is gone and there is no law anymore?

The bigger issue is when people realize there is no world order and get greedy. Or give up hope they'll have anything better to look forward to.

There would be order.

Only a fractured military...

There is always some degree of order.

Sacrifice this non virgin to lord Gaben so that the rain may flow again

I sacrifice Missdanger to the God of Sexuality. >.>

And *the vast majority* of people in the aftermath of a hurricane actually behave better and more cooperatively.

Here is a virgin for ya God of Sexuality!

I can see the amish and japanese doing pretty well

It's the after a couple months when things would get dicier.

Japanese? why? They're super packed and super dependent.

Japanese... they are very dependable people.

I wish we had more Japanese in United States.

Their culture is pretty respectful and honorable.

I wish more Japanese become United States citizens.

I highly doubt there will be an actual apocalypse, at worst it's a super great depression and we get a fail state

That's something of a stereotype in my experience.

Kinda like Venezuela or Yugoslavia

You mean in the near future with this "civil war" people keep talking about?

Did you see how fast they came together after the triple disaster and rebuilt?

Nuclear plant meltdown, earthquake, and tsunami?

I think the apocalypse scenarios people like to talk about are the aftermath of WWIII. Which would be a whole other scale.

It is very possible to rebuild after World War III.

Yes, but they could just retreat and had everything still around.

WE have develop technically to purify, to filter, and to rebuild.

Have you seen the gulf states after major hurricanes?

Yes, I have seen.

Mad max, with jazz

You'd swear that sometimes it just cleans up the rotting properties and speeds everything up faster.

Have you seen Oklahoma a F-5 tornado?

After a^

No. But I can imagine.

Oh god

Irradiated tornadoes

F-5 levels a City the size of Stillwater to the foundation.

Nothing left.

I think in the apocalypse scenario we're talking about something far greater though.

No retreat. No escape.