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I'm convinced that the Bible tells us how to handle people who have different opinions (of all types), people of other ethnic backrounds, etc. I don't like to give one dimensional answers to multi-dimensional issues/problems.
Slav man is inviting his whole friends and family to the server for our entertainment this evening
Hey - I'm the one being entertained. For FREE!! Bernie couldn't....oh. never mind.
ok so what about Christianity in regards to the Party/ideology?
@rhebner We don't actually want to kill any races mind you. People are just drunk and posting memes.
I just had a question on how can you be a firm believer in Christ and still be a race realist without coming off as rude and ''hateful''? @MatthewHeimbach
We're balkanists
Is that even a word?
If not, I just coined it.
Well, i wrote this on the Orthodox perspective https://www.tradworker.org/2015/01/orthodox-nationalism-a-basis-in-scripture-and-sacred-tradition/
Gib royalties
Thank you @MatthewHeimbach
best summed up by this quote from the Russian Orthodox Church's declaration On Church and Nation which stated โthe Church unites in herself the universal with the nationalโฆ Orthodox Christians, aware of being citizens of the heavenly homeland, should not forget about their earthly homelandโฆ Christian patriotism may be expressed at the same time with regard to a nation as an ethnic community and as a community of its citizens. The Orthodox Christian is called to love his fatherland, which has a territorial dimension, and his brothers by blood who live everywhere in the world. This love is one of the ways of fulfilling Godโs commandment of love to oneโs neighbor which includes love to oneโs family, fellow-tribesmen and fellow-citizens.โ
Being a nationalist is fulfilling your Biblical duty to love your neighbor
which in a sane world, is only your racial kinsmen
The basic answer is: Christ's kingdom is NOT a political kingdom, and not of this world. If it were, he would have rounded up his followers and ousted the Romans. The Jews of His day did not like this at all. That said, Christians are to comply with civil law (show due honor our government leaders) so far as we are not required to disobey God. That said, there is nothing wrong with loving your ethnic/cultural heritage and respecting others from other cultures.
Your first duty is to your wife and kids, then your cousins, then your neighbor, then your town, then your nation etc
On a personal level, do all you can to live at peace with your neighbor. Mind your own business. Help whom you can who really need it.....family & church come first (on a practical leve).
First duty is faith *
Amen
Faith grounds you in a healthy view of the world
hmmmmmmmmmm
Somebody drop that he protecc Heimbach meme
Self defense is biblical. I'll defend my family to the death if so threatened.
The very term for nations in the Bible is ethnos, the root of ethnicity
The Bible is very clear that your race is your nation
I love the USA. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
I just wanna state right here right now that you can be a white nationalist and still thoroughly enjoy jackie chan movies
"Several people are typing"
Honorary Aryan
Yes
A lot of us were AmNats
Oh boy this server is poppin tonight
Do you guys interpret "Thou shalt not commit adultery" to be a proscription of miscegeny?
I cannot support the Yankee Empire for the sole reason of the crimes committed against the South.
Matthew - yes - Christ's kingdom includes people from every race, tribe, nation, etc.
Though you can't be a white nationalist and still thoroughly enjoy Jackie Chan's daughter
Ah bringing out that talking point Bullets
America is GAY
@rhebner indeed it does
But there is also a reasonable separation of church and state
>Tfw no qt Asian gf
Christ's multiracial kingdom is not of this world
as you admitted
@Tarnfurt Most likely, because why repeat not coveting someones wife
And we maintain our race in Heaven, and our gender
So, our racial family isnt just a worldly thing
Are Kung Fu movies CHAN culture? ๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
Lol that's what @Tarnfurt said
@MatthewHeimbach i once read a post someone made that the Seventh Commandment was not about cheating, but rather a proscription of miscegeny specifically and I was curious on your take on that
Fuck dude my phone is at 4% and I'm an hour away from an outlet lmao
Somebody update me when I come back
Yeah thats prolly correct @Tarnfurt
@Fevslmfao ok i just googled jackie chans daughter.... yeah brah your right... no thanks
Drop candid pics Fassel
Ugliest Shelia ive seen all day
Show us this Gook milker
@Tarnfurt In the book The Orthodox Church: 455 Questions and Answers by Father Stanley Harakas he tells modern Orthodox Christians that โGod does not encourage racially mixed marriages, then I believe we are not in disagreement. I feel I made it very clear that the Church does not feel such marriages are desirable, for many different reasons, many of which are practical and have to do with the chance of success for such marriages. In addition, we should also add that the Church holds that races and nations were created by God. Consequently,the total intermarriage would destroy the races which God created. The Church has never advocated or encouraged racially mixed marriages.โ
I've always said "Let Man not bring together that which God has separated"
Sorry for TLDR
"To be opposed to interracial marriage goes all the way back to Abraham who said in Genesis 24:3-4 that โI want you to swear by the Lord, the God of heaven and the God of earth, that you will not get a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I am living, but will go to my country and my own relatives and get a wife for my son Isaac.โ Abraham wanted his son to marry within his own tribe, something that God never condemned but actually blessed with fruitful families and great gifts both materially and spiritually. While I would not argue that it is a sin per se to marry outside oneโs nation, there are clear guidelines that the best form of marriage is among those of the same nation. In Israel the nation was told to get rid of the foreign wives among the nation and to marry within the nation of Israel. Ezra 10:3 states โSo letโs make a promise to our God by which we divorce all of these foreign wivesโas well as those born to themโin accordance with the counsel of our Lord and of those who tremble at our Godโs command.โ
Earlier in the book of Ezra in 9:2 we are told โThey have taken some of their daughters as wives for themselves and their sons, and have mingled the holy race with the peoples around them. And the leaders and officials have led the way in this unfaithfulness.โ The government of Israel had a responsibility to maintain the national character of Israel, and both incest and interracial marriage was looked upon negatively by God for violating His plan for marriage and a stable society. The position of God on issues such as homosexuality, incest, bestiality and interracial marriages were all codified throughout the Old Testament."
@MatthewHeimbach Are you Greek Orthodox?
In short...without the transforming power of the gospel, (where people from all ethnic backrounds can peacefully co-exist), uniting disparate types of people is an exercise in futilty. Any attempt to the latter will simply borrow from Christian capital in order to sound legitimate. And it has to a point in America.
Def got a schlong
@rhebner exactly
@Tarnfurt Russian Orthodox, raised Catholic but converted
And the gospel is not an instrument of national policy; there is a separation of church and state.
Guys
There's more to life on Earth than church, though. Races should be separate for the preservation of their own worldly cultures
Heimbach isn't a Greek agent
Goebbels talked about this. He said that the job of the State should be to care for the needs of the people in this world, and the job of the churches is to get our peoples souls to Heaven
Its clear NS principle
He's a Russian agent that's using the Greek Agent meme as a cover up
GLENN BECK WAS RIGHT
CHAOS MAGIC
MUH DUGIN
i'm Orthodox as well
Heimbach.........a German agent on behalf of GREECE...I get it.
good job labs you're teaching the boomer memes
Mathios Heimbakopilous
WOKE
Literally our lives...
lol
@rhebner Any other questions?
I'll offer serious answers don't worry
As I march into battle, my comrades I hail,
Tonight the white race prevails -
Death by our swords to the vile, alien hordes,
Their every resistance shall fail.
They see it, it's there in our eyes,
We know it, it's time that we rise,
Not one of their numbers shall be spared;
The racial holy war has been declared
He'll yeah borther
<:hellyeah:374715727833464836>
๐ซ๐ฎ
SUOMI STRONK
๐ซ๐ฎ
Real question, has everyone learned the Party anthem yet? ๐
:DDDDDD
@MatthewHeimbach Die Fahne hoch
der Reihen fest geschlossen
etc
๐ฒ๐ณ
the english version @Haupstรผrmfuhrer Pepe
Yes
Finngolia stronk
Link?
Muh Vodka
Can we get Paddy to record it?
Muh Puukko
Muh Perkele
Swedes get out REEEEEEE
^^^^^^
I still haven't seen the anthem ngr
+1 for Paddy
Can we get a metal cover
Our flag flies high! We stand as one together
In steadfast rows, the youth marches ahead
And through our deeds, we shall live forever
Our battle cry, fills our foes with dread
No more in shame! We raise our holy banner
Reduced to slaves, never was our fate
Stand for our Folk, our nation, pride, and honor
We shall act now, before it is too late
The time is now! Our people have awoken
Proudly we march, in uniforms of black
There wonโt be peace, until our chains are broken
Weโve crossed the line, there is no turning back
The fight goes on! Against the rootless strangers
Weโll shed our blood, until the final end
We shall not fall, our people are in danger
So stand your ground, be loyal now comrades
Tune of the *Horst Wessel Lied*?
ja
We need somebody to record it
Somebody with good sound equipment
im waiting on like 3 dudes to finally record it
fucking lol @Flaxxer
Not a USB mic like somebody uses for podcasts ๐ค๐ค๐ค๐ค
Guten Nacht
Pls no bully Heimbakopilous
Your name has already been put on the People's Court list @Flaxxer
lol
Ich bin mude....
Np, get some rest
low-energy boomer
Sad!
Sad!
The saddest
Sad!
OK 2nd wind. Time for round two...
Matt i didnt see ur response
@MatthewHeimbach i got a friend thats 17 and wants to join the TWP im talking to him now whats the stance on this
i asked what did you do for Orthodox Christmas
anything special?
Should be fine, at the very least get him involved
Can i get a invite to give him into the discord
OH yeah, just went to Church with the fam @Billy Ray Jenkins
Cool
Thanks for remembering
Well I know in most old Orthodox Customs
i plan to single handily force the entire WN movement to know autistic orthodox history
Christmas is a Holy Day but Epiphanys the Holiday
usually if memory serves me
Most European nations before the Protestants
Ephiphany was more of a Celebration than Christmas
In fact Modern Christmas is largely an Anglo Invention
Matt did you know back in Old Europe
the Season stretched from Advent to Candlemas
thats roughly November 30th to February 2nd
Back 500 years ago, we had such an infinite number of Saints Days and Feast Days
there was literally a holiday every week
The Protestants ended that for most of Europe
Id like to welcome a friend of mine @Fritz
Welcome!
Welcome!
Many Thanks!
@MatthewHeimbach DID YOU EVER LOOK UP AN OLD FASHIONED CATHOLIC CALENDAR FROM PRE 1965? I am sure the Orthodox it was similar but there were literally
hundreds of small feast days and saints days
yep
This was one of the arguments Protestants made against Catholics
every day is a day of celebration
theyd always say all Catholics do is celebrate
and they dont get any work done
Whoops
thats an old Anglo Argument
The Puritans were such Scum
The rub is whether one believes in Sola Scriptura or not.
SOLA SCRIPTURA CUCKS GET OUT REEEEEEEEE
Orthodox Caesar's Legion mod.
fuck the puritans
they let the jews back into England with Cromwell
@fassel - ingest a sedative. An Avatar will be forthcoming in due time. Patience............
Exactly
Puritan Theology is based upon John Calvin
@MatthewHeimbach but Puritans are pro-white sharia
@rhebner i dont think u understand... those on the interwebs without avatars are niggers...
who the Catholic Gazette February 1936 records was praised by the Bnai Brith Congress
as an important Jew
the puritans are spiritual jews
legalistic, shitty, materially oriented
and leftist
Matt did u read this
yuck
The Puritans were Arch Conservatives in the beginning, the Royalists were much more liberal
@MatthewHeimbach - puritans,,,blah blah..... sola scriptura is the reliable platform for a belief system.
however the liberal ideas that the Puritans had on Universal Education
was their undoing
There is so sola scriptura
the Bible is a publication of the Church
It was codified at the council of nicea by a Church council
Puritanism was based upon the ideas of the Crypto Jew
the idea of the Bible alone is just not in line with church tradition
John Calvin
or history
What context can the Bible have outside of the Church traditions?
@MatthewHeimbach - no doubt...much puritanism is lifeless and can be deadly. Sola Scriptura proves this.
Sola scriptura is a spook
even Fr. Luther would have rejected the modern Protestant thought on sola scriptura
Puritanism was never based upon the Bible to begin with, it was based upon John Calvin's INTERPRETATION of the Bible
@rhebner keep in mind Matt is orthodox
he still had an apostolic priesthood, the saints, the sacraments, etc
it was a Calvinist cult
it was indeed @Billy Ray Jenkins
Matt did you read this
reading now
Technically Calvin is a heresiarch.
This old article from 1936 the Jew in there clearly says Calvin was a Jew entrusted by the Elders of Zion to make war upon Christendom
@MatthewHeimbach - The reverse is true. Much church tradition is not in line with the scriptures alone.
I doubt it; Calvin is more of an autist than anything else.
literally true. Ok the fact that Church tradition and sola scriptura doesnt fit, is proof why sola scriptura isnt correct
The Jews claim Calvin as a Jew they claim he was a Kohanim
which is Jewish priest class
@MatthewHeimbach - Not correct? By what standard?
this is the only puritan that is tolerable
@rhebner That's the point; so much of our western tradition doesn't line up with the "if it's not commanded it's forbidden" view
Though the truth is Jesus Christ was through Mary's mother Anna a direct descendant of Aaron himself
through Marys father Joahicm or Heli he is a direct descendant of David
@rhebner Christmas would have to be banned in the "Sola Scriptura" worldview
so would Birthdays
and New Years
and all the other pagan rituals
I'm keeping my Christmas and folkish traditions damnit
^
^
โฆ ORTHODOXY OR DEATH โฆ
lol
๐
@Haupstรผrmfuhrer Pepe - well....the essentials are clear & commanded. Non essentials....are just that.
Christianity wouldn't be what it is without its European character which is now engrained into it.
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