>If they're forced to struggle on their own as a result of their actions I think you'll find it happening much less than if they're supported to similar extents by the state as if they had a husband
It's not like white societies have ever been free of bastards or thots. It's not like instating Lebensborn was Hitler telling all German women to whore as much as possible. I feel that's a pretty libertarian way of looking at things. It's more likely the program would make sure white child will grow up to be a better citizen having a happy childhood free of want, rather than whores thinking that's TWP party's big ole thumbs up to jump on the dick carousel. If you think whores whore just because government let's them, it's not true, they're just being more open about it, but whores will always whore.

If you need bodies, that's one thing, but normally theres no reason for that

Once we have the society we want, then absolutely it should be discouraged and stigmatized

I think if you are to have bastard children from the % of women who will whore about regardless, they should be put up for adoption as the mother is probably less fit to raise them than some infertile couple

Rather than incentivize it by supporting the mother and child

Throw THOTs into Convents...problem solved.

eh people do make mistakes

They do, yes, but by there not being consequences others are less likely to learn from their mistakes

and if a couple of teenagers do get knocked up, I'd much rather they be able to have and raise the child rather than it ruining their lives like it does now

I'd say in such a situation there should be pressure to get married as there was before

If they do, whatever

@Arcturus How do you institutionalize shotgun weddings?

absolutely yes, but they'll still need support

@John Mosby

I'm not really sure. I think social shame would do much of the work as it did in the past

Yeah, that's just it, the program is for state institutions pretty much. You can start some extra governmental fascist version of Mao's Cultural Revolution and cane whores on the street,.

Might work.

We still need to support them. The child is an innocent

Perhaps just penalize both of the parents if they do not, I dunno. Child support as it is now isn't such a bad idea in theory.

@Vice Commander Hunt

I am a Christian before I am a National Socialist. If we throw out morality to "preserve" anything, then it isn't worth it. Christ and the Saints lead my thoughts, not Rockwell (I am not a big fan of Rockwell, anyway, tbh...I much preferred Stoner and the NSRP).

http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb60.htm

Have the father pay the state for the cost he put on society by supporting the mother or something, don't give benefits to the mother so she and her family has to support the child

Well National Socialism is my faith and ideology so I look at things through those lenses, what is most beneficial for our race.

If they get married, have neither of those happen, perhaps give support to the new parents

Right outside of Orwells old home.

There's a case to be made that disincentivizing that would be most beneficial to our race by having healthier people growing in it

>Have the father pay the state for the cost he put on society by supporting the mother or something
Uh...I dunno how to put this...we already have it...pretty much

Really tells you something about his books, he was right.

I know. That's why I said the current child support laws aren't bad in theory

@John Mosby is war ever lawful?

@Vice Commander Hunt

Of course...

What does war have to do with it, though?

So your suggestion is incentivizing marriage by making so that you don't have to pay for child support in marriage? How's that working, right now? @Arcturus

@John Mosby It has a fresh flag anyway

@Kombat-Unit don't have to pay for child support plus the woman wouldn't have to support the child herself. If there's no welfare for the mom, she's going to try a lot harder to make it work.

Now there's not as much drive as she'll be supported either way

It's a shame Vlams Blook moderated the way they did

I'd bet the father would try harder too if his kid might literally be starving.

That's libertarian as fuck.

yeah we need to support parents above all else

Natural eugenics, suppose it's libertarian in a way

Meh

ONly good eugenics are eugenics that dont make kids suffer

That's just fucked up

I don't care for starving kids

I'm more interested in protecting the children than punishing the parents

I'd offer that you could just put the kids up for adoption too

Given the choice, there isn't much to say

Plenty of families would want them

Adoption is very detrimental to kids...kids need to be with their parents, at all costs.

@John Mosby How bout removing them from abusive parents?

You should know better than most that money doesn't equal genetics, nigga you dumb. You have poor whites suffering in South Africa and rich kikes and nogs in America, which would you target for eugenics.

Nigga you confused.

Remind me again what the second part of our Party slogan was?

Well those kikes and nogs wouldn't be here in that scenario.

@ac

Obviously if the parents are abusive, then that is a different matter.

I am just saying that kids shouldn't be given up for adoption, over financial matters, no matter what.

Oh right, Family

Also taking the gibs away from kids who have been deprived of their father and giving it to kids who already have two parents providing for them would just victimize the wrong person in this equation.

Even poor Families or ones that make mistakes

The nuclear family is the core of a society and must be protected at all costs

I'm not saying gas all poor whites dude. I'm saying that enabling thots to be thots is a bad idea. If they have no repercussions to their actions they're gonna be thots

So incentivize both parties to get married. If it really came to it, her parents would likely support the kid too.

Fathers who don't marry the women they impregnate should be treated as social pariahs. This essentially creates a societal "shotgun" wedding.

Agreed. Fathers like that should get some sort of corporal punishment on top of having to pay

We just need to go back to arranged marriages, and all the women will be married off in their teenage years, which will eliminate a lot of the fornication that leads to single-motherhood.

And I'm not sure if just saying it'll be a trad society is enough. It'll definitely be a trad society if there are incentives for it to be so, I don't know if social pressure is enough to just suddenly make it trad

@Arcturus Why don't you sterilize thots instead of going through all this and treating dumb 16yo who got pregnant like some professional whore who forgot to take the pill because she was too coked out.

Sterilization is underappreciated.

That works too

Ugh, I wouldn't live in a society that promoted sterilization...

How come?

Dumb 16 y/os who got pregnant back in the day often got married though, because they weren't going to be as supported by the government plus social pressure on the father

not for healthy whites\

So it's not like this shit didn't work

@John Mosby If war is ever lawful, then peace is sometimes sinful. The 7th commandment is "thou shalt not kill" but Jesus also advised his disciples to sell their cloaks to buy a sword. Ecclesiastes 3:1 says "There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens..." God isn't a lawyer. Sometimes you will have to do bad things for good reasons. If you aren't willing to do anything and everything for the survival of the race, why are you here? I would gladly go to hell for the rest of our people to have a chance to go to heaven

@Kombat-Unit

Because my Faith forbids it.

@Arcturus It's not like kids didn't bounce town because they got some girl preggers back then. It's not like all our problems are modern. I like the sterilization idea.

Which part of the Bible forbids it? The "be fruitful" and so forth?

I think if you restricted or outright got rid of many forms of contraception and didn't support whores who got pregnant on top of social pressure against it you'd see much less single mothers, so this wouldn't be as big of a deal.

If you're going to go so far as to sterilize a thot, you might as well stone her instead

if it's that big of a problem

@Vice Commander Hunt

You are taking Scripture out of context.

I am here to preserve Christendom. If the white race needs to be "preserved" through Satanic methods, then we have already lost.

It would set a precedent to not be a thot

We can start the sterilizations and you and an angry horde can go around caning teen mothers and I think we got this problem solved.

True. Sterilization also brings the issue of enabling their thottery by taking away repercussions of it. This de-values marriage for the average man as he could just have sex with the sterile whore rather than get married.

Well, killing is satanic, so I suppose you should lay down and accept death then

give up

it's hopeless

Killing is not Satanic...hahaha. It is a product of our fallen world, but is necessary at times to preserve our people.

There is such a thing as Justifiable /Just War.

so you're saying that sometimes a bad thing is okay if you do it for a good reason?

No, I don't believe you. You're taking scripture out of context

Murder is generally bad, but at some point gas chambers will be necessary

@Arcturus You're looking at it very naively. You were desperately searching for deterrent to thottery, I think forced tube tying is a pretty good one. I don't know about you, but I don't want to get steady with anyone sterile, I would like to continue my bloodline, and I know even bluepills feel the same.

@Kombat-Unit no they don't lol

Scripture is put into context by our Saints and Holy Fathers.

First of all, are you even Christian, because I'm not going to even both having a Theological discussion with a non-Christian.

Most bluepills want to have kids, come on, we're not that ethnomasochist yet.

no they don't

Well RIP USA.

I'm not saying they'd go steady with a woman who is sterile but for the longest time sex with the largest incentive for men to marry. If you offer sex to them without consequence they're gonna feel less of a drive to get married

They want sex, continuing a bloodline is too abstract a thought

This is part of why porn is such a big issue