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2018-05-08 03:42:01 UTC

aight bois

2018-05-08 03:42:20 UTC

so let me get this straight

2018-05-08 03:42:27 UTC

you don't support the alt-right

2018-05-08 03:42:29 UTC

at all

2018-05-08 03:42:40 UTC

I do

2018-05-08 03:42:47 UTC

Even tho most of it is neck beard

2018-05-08 03:42:51 UTC

Well

2018-05-08 03:42:57 UTC

Most alt right are natsoc and fascist

2018-05-08 03:43:06 UTC

Not all of it

2018-05-08 03:43:17 UTC

Some are Based

2018-05-08 03:43:40 UTC

Ya

2018-05-08 03:43:40 UTC

Depends on what you qualify as AltRight

2018-05-08 03:44:01 UTC

well you know

2018-05-08 03:44:13 UTC

the redneck crackers, the KKK, the skinheads lol

2018-05-08 03:44:23 UTC

No

2018-05-08 03:44:34 UTC

We despise the KKK

2018-05-08 03:44:42 UTC

Especially Skinheads

2018-05-08 03:44:45 UTC

you guys push for an ethnostate?

2018-05-08 03:44:55 UTC

Well

2018-05-08 03:45:32 UTC

We believe that a multi cultural nation is not possible

2018-05-08 03:45:51 UTC

*looks at US*

2018-05-08 03:45:58 UTC

Exactly

2018-05-08 03:46:09 UTC

Look at the divides

2018-05-08 03:46:43 UTC

Ever since multiculturalism happened our country has begun to decline

2018-05-08 03:47:29 UTC

Sure the um PC BS is a problem, they take the multiculturalism a little too far

2018-05-08 03:47:50 UTC

but I think that's where people like you and me decline

2018-05-08 03:48:16 UTC

I believe in all races to have equal opportunities you know, its just good heart

2018-05-08 03:48:38 UTC

the people in your party look to make the country pretty much you know

2018-05-08 03:48:58 UTC

Hard to describe

2018-05-08 03:49:09 UTC

There are good and bad in all people's

2018-05-08 03:49:46 UTC

It's just certain people's are more likely to act a certain way as it is their nature

2018-05-08 03:50:34 UTC

We just want to preserve our people just like everyone else does

2018-05-08 03:50:54 UTC

It's hard to explain I suppose

2018-05-08 03:51:08 UTC

I don't know how to describe what you really you know want

2018-05-08 03:51:21 UTC

like I dont want to go to far as to call you rulers

2018-05-08 03:51:21 UTC

because that doesn't make sense

2018-05-08 03:51:29 UTC

but you get what I'm trying to say right

2018-05-08 03:51:33 UTC

It just isn't right

2018-05-08 03:51:38 UTC

Kind of

2018-05-08 03:51:43 UTC

to kick everybody that aint white out

2018-05-08 03:51:50 UTC

No

2018-05-08 03:52:02 UTC

or make em slaves :l

2018-05-08 03:52:04 UTC

I think itโ€™s justified for any people to keep there land and people

2018-05-08 03:52:12 UTC

Kick them out if there not beneficial

2018-05-08 03:52:28 UTC

*plot twist*, that just got interesting

2018-05-08 03:52:38 UTC

So even if they are black, smart and intelligent

2018-05-08 03:52:40 UTC

You keep em?

2018-05-08 03:52:44 UTC

If a black man is a doctor why get rid of him

2018-05-08 03:53:00 UTC

What if a white homeless guy is not doing jack

2018-05-08 03:53:03 UTC

kick em out?

2018-05-08 03:53:16 UTC

Then he gets put to work

2018-05-08 03:53:28 UTC

One way or another

2018-05-08 03:53:35 UTC

not slavery though right

2018-05-08 03:53:41 UTC

No

2018-05-08 03:53:53 UTC

Okay, I mean that aint too bad actually

2018-05-08 03:54:03 UTC

You know the points I've been hearing from the rest of your party

2018-05-08 03:54:04 UTC

He who does not work does not eat

2018-05-08 03:54:26 UTC

The points I've been hearing from the rest of your party have been just kicking them out nomatter what lol

2018-05-08 03:54:32 UTC

Wym?

2018-05-08 03:54:42 UTC

Basically, if they are African, fuck em.

2018-05-08 03:54:48 UTC

They can live with their own race

2018-05-08 03:54:50 UTC

we keeping the whites

2018-05-08 03:55:03 UTC

I've argued for repatriation of all nonwhites in America, that's what he's talking about

2018-05-08 03:55:04 UTC

even if they are hard working and smart

2018-05-08 03:55:07 UTC

Pretty much kind of what we go for

2018-05-08 03:55:29 UTC

We are split on Orientals and Hispanics

2018-05-08 03:55:41 UTC

Have you seen black culture and how bad it is for society, like the music gloryfying rape sex and drugs etc

2018-05-08 03:55:50 UTC

Yes

2018-05-08 03:56:19 UTC

We wish to rid the country of Degeneracy

2018-05-08 03:56:26 UTC

People like them arenโ€™t functional in western society and should go somewhere else like there Homeland

2018-05-08 03:56:55 UTC

But black men who are civilized and arenโ€™t degenerate and have a stable job and family then he can stay and works in society

2018-05-08 03:57:02 UTC

Same with whites

2018-05-08 03:57:13 UTC

That's a point, but I think it's best to not kick em out just because of something they have no control of

2018-05-08 03:57:31 UTC

They arenโ€™t compatible with our American values

2018-05-08 03:58:21 UTC

basically my point is, you know, why kick em out just for being a different race

2018-05-08 03:58:21 UTC

It's either assimilate with our culture in our land or go home

2018-05-08 03:58:40 UTC

if you want a smart and strong country

2018-05-08 03:58:49 UTC

get the asians

2018-05-08 03:59:06 UTC

We're split on that topic

2018-05-08 03:59:15 UTC

Their similar to us

2018-05-08 03:59:32 UTC

So most of us are fine with them

2018-05-08 03:59:54 UTC

Asians arenโ€™t well rounded compared to Europeans, they have strong IQโ€™s and such but arenโ€™t western valued.

2018-05-08 04:00:05 UTC

Itโ€™s like the same with other races if they assimilate itโ€™s good

2018-05-08 04:02:05 UTC

We just want to defend our people, our culture, our faith, and our homeland

2018-05-08 04:02:43 UTC

Itโ€™s like going to Japan but not seeing Japanese people instead seeing white people and christan religion instead of the homeland ideology

2018-05-08 14:25:42 UTC

I guess one way to put it is we want a strong, unified America. We need a people who are patriotic and share our culture, our values, etc. This means that we need to hold on to everything that makes our country unified and strong, and do away with the harmful aspects. There are many beneficial members to this country regardless of race, and there are a lot of people of all races holding us back. We want everyone who is here to contribute to the betterment of this country, and to devote themselves to something greater than themselves. It'll build them up as people as opposed to the selfish liberals who do nothing yet still demand everything. We just realize that races are different from one another, and having cultures, races and the like mix up, it desroys the unique beauty of each race. We love our race and our people, but we don't hate others simply for being of a different race. Every race deserves a homeland, has a destiny, a history, and a future. We can encourage each race to be built up without being mixed together, as forced multiculturalism doesn't build up, it destroys.

2018-05-09 01:49:52 UTC

@Ben Garrison ready when you are

2018-05-09 01:50:32 UTC

Yeah that's definitely a part of it, but it's a bit of an incomplete definition since you could just as easily define a patriot that way. A nationalist subscribes to the idea of nations - collections of people with a common heritage and identity - and that these nations should have states that embody them.

2018-05-09 01:52:20 UTC

does an American Nationalist have to believe in an ethnostate ;l

2018-05-09 01:52:58 UTC

No

2018-05-09 01:53:17 UTC

In fact I'd wager most don't.

2018-05-09 01:53:55 UTC

So a nationalist has to believe everybody in the country has to be white?

2018-05-09 01:54:14 UTC

No

2018-05-09 01:54:17 UTC

wait shit came out wrong

2018-05-09 01:54:35 UTC

common heritage and identity,

2018-05-09 01:54:46 UTC

can you elaborate on that

2018-05-09 02:00:01 UTC

That part varies from person to person. The two main flavors of nationalism as I like to think of it are ethnic nationalism and civic nationalism. Ethno-nationalist like myself believe that ethnicity plays a part in national identity, and therefore believe that a stable nation-state is a state composed almost entirely of only the nation. Civic nationalists, which most mainstream conservatives are especially in America, do not believe that ethnicity has much if any bearing on national identity. They see things as more of a cultural-political allegiance to the values and principles of whatever state the person resides in. The concept of the nation is therefore a much more individualistic idea that someone opts into by believing in the institutions and principles associated with the nation - in the case of America that would mean believing in democracy, the Constitution, civil liberties and the like. Both ethno-nationalism and civic nationalism consider a shared language important, but ethno-nationalists might put more emphasis on it.

2018-05-09 02:02:08 UTC

Civic Nationalist don't sound bad

2018-05-09 02:04:42 UTC

aslong as it isn't Democrat lol

2018-05-09 02:05:51 UTC

Civic nationalism really takes shape during and immediately after the French Revolution and plays a large part in the French understanding of nationalism still to this day. Ethno-nationalism really starts to come into its own during the unification efforts of Germany and Italy throughout the 19th century (it's not strictly a National Socialist/Fascist concept, though these two ideologies were heavily influenced by their past). If you were curious and wanted to read about those periods of history to get a better understanding

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