Okay.........and?

History

Bingo

That's what happens. You get rid of the centralized leadership and then it's just a clean up job.

The Eastern Front was an intensely patriotic struggle, very few if even a single Russian soldier would say "oh, well they got Moscow. I cant fight anymore"

Because without central authority there's no coordination, there's no logistics, there's no anything. It's just now various local factions all with their own shit going on

You know not every General and Party member was in Moscow, right? And the ones who were could always use their legs and leave

Patriotism is fungible. They can be patriotic af, but they still have families.

They can change their patriotism to their local town

That's correct but has nothing to do with the reality of the clash of nations that was WW2

Okay so Stalin gets taken out or he's forced to flee

Now who's in chage?

charge*

Probably Shukov

Zhukov*

The answer is whoever says they're in charge. And if multiple people say it....guess what. You're gonna split like an axe to wood

Zhukov can be in charge until another general says "I'd do a much better job, and my men are all loyal to me...not Zhukov. I'm now in charge of Eastern Russia."

Or whoever Kalinin appoints

And just like that he's in charge

Look up the Romance of the Three Kingdoms period in China to see what happens when a centralized leader gets taken out. Chaos ensues, and multiple local factions rise up and try to fill the power vacuum. Same thing is happening right now in Iraq and Afganistand and Syria since ISIS is taken out

I am well aware of the Three Kingdoms period. The difference is China wasnt subject to invasion by an overwhelming force

Again.....Hitler was on Meth. Literally meth. The idea that he was acting logically is magical wishful thinking

There was no such thing as China during the Three Kindgoms

It was just kingdoms within China

Which, if you look at the accession of Alfred the Great in Wessex, people have a fairly strong recognition that even with individual ambitions for internal struggles in the face of foreign aggression they must act as one

Precisely, there was no "Other" to unify them

Which makes it even more ridiculous honestly. The whole idea of attacking the Soviets was dumb in the first place. Not only was it dumb, but then HOw he attacked was dumb, the locations he attacked were dumb, his retreat strategy was dumb AF

The meth accusation is immaterial to the concepts we're discussing

Like, it was blunder after blunder after blunder....and people actually LIKE this guy

Please shoot me if I ever follow some loser like that. Oof. What a mess that would be.

Even generously granting you that every move was a blunder, he's idolized as a patriotic statesman not a revolutionary military tactician

Lol some statemen....he got millions of his own people killed

And he ost

lost*

Big time

No matter what, he lost. He's a loser.

Why follow a loser?

Get in voice if you want a full explanation, this is too much to type

I’l get in voice as well

Can't right now, But I will take you up on that eventually

Jew.

Got kids around

Touch them. @Benjamin Bucks

**F a g g o t**

Maybe ill send them off to die in a war like Hitler did

OOOOF

Unless you cant control yourself theres nothing in this conversation that wouldnt be suitable for their ears

Because MeIn StRugGlE

No, because then after I get done talking to yall I'll have the have the same conversation over again with them

"What was that about?"

"Idk, these guys really like Hitler"

"Lol what? Why?"

And?

then hours will pass discussing a subject which is honestly pretty boring. Like, Hitler lost. He's a loser. I'd rther talk about winners

I'd rather talk about Trump, and Churchill, and how Kanye is going to be president in 2024

BASED NEGRO

DRAGON ENERGY

BASED BLACK

Hitler had no dragon energy. He had virgin methhead energy

cause he lost. and did meth.

js

We can continue this in voice whenever youre ready to have a discussion besides repeating the words loser and meth

Now that Mussolini, there's a different story!

At least he got the trains on time

Mussolini is like a bootleg fascist

Tbh

And a lot of our economics now are taken straight from the fascist model

Like Obamacare....straight fascism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I71VX5RyGA

But Mussolini gets a bad rap because of his best friend....

But in the 20's and 30's we took a lot from fascism. FDR was a big fascist or he took a lot from them

Mussolini really is a man's man

Because it was during the Great Depression. Capitalism was discredited, they didn't wanna be like the Soviets...so fascism was the third way

Then Hitler ruined that ever being a thing by dragging Mussolini into a war, but until that happened Italy seemed pretty lit fam.

Hitler was evil goys!!!!

Yeah he sucked

Kys

Lol, lemme ask you.

You think hitler, if he was still alive, which he isnt....

You think he would give a fuck about you?

Hitler loves me!!!!

Am cool!!

Hitler loves me dude

I don't understand the....what's the word I'm looking for

Cultish behavior?

around Hitler

Woah, I can’t say da n word

Lol saw dat

nighur?

Nice

Cult like behavior would work though

idk

fanaticism

thats better

Mind boggling.

I’m a radical dude, that’s all there is to it

Like Trump I get it, cause he wins

but to be fanatical about a person who loses?

That makes no sense to me

Trump doesn’t win...?